This is why power levels are stupid.

Spamalot
Spamalot

Sailormoon, a pokemon weaker than a masterball, and Yuki Nagato are stronger than TTGL?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEbAqyhujs8
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metafiction
https://youtu.be/wA4WSWNUJhs?t=14m15s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFG61_T-J14
http://www41.atwiki.jp/goronka/pages/11.html.
Dreamworx
Dreamworx

It's not even consistent within the same series. Enrico Pucci's Made in Heaven is lower than Giorno Giovanna's Gold Experience Requiem, even though Giorno was affected as well as everyone else.

Inmate
Inmate

@Dreamworx
It's not even consistent within the same series. Enrico Pucci's Made in Heaven is lower than Giorno Giovanna's Gold Experience Requiem, even though Giorno was affected as well as everyone else.
This is why extra-universal power level charts are stupid.

Umineko power levels are based on "levels" and knowledge of truths in games(individual universes).

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Spamalot
and Yuki Nagato are stronger than TTGL?
but she is

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Spamalot
Powerlevels in general aren't stupid because it's fairly easy to rate most characters by theoretical destructive power.

What's stupid is this chart which for some reason includes multiple omniscient/nigh omniscient characters that are impossible to compare properly (why?) which is all the threads end up being about, and also has a ton of other retarded placements.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Spamalot
The TTGL only has size on it's side

happy_sad
happy_sad

Tenchi the highest
Good.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Spamalot
Its size means it literally moves faster than the speed of light, and any normal sized human wouldn't be able to perceive it in its entirety unless they're galaxies apart.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Dreamworx
@Inmate
But in all star battle royal if made in heaven and gold experience Requiem were activated at the same time then Giorno would be unaffected by made in heaven

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Spamalot
How is Getter Emperor that low? It's literally the embodiment of the infinite universe.

Inmate
Inmate

@Garbage Can Lid

Because TTGLfags are too butthurt to admit that Getter Emperor is stronger

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Skullbone
normal sized human wouldn't be able to perceive it in its entirety unless they're galaxies apart.
Yet people on Earth in the series were able to see it, I'm also sure that more powerful individuals would be able to sense it.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@hairygrape
Yeah, because they were galaxies apart. If any normal sized human wants to actually fight TTGL, they better have some multi-galactic range attacks because otherwise they'll just see an endless red wall if they're any closer. Even then, TTGL can cover multiple galaxies of distance in a single stride, at multiple times the speed of light.

WebTool
WebTool

@whereismyname
No they were in the same galaxy during the entire fight, and any human with reality manipulation or higher tier energy manipulation can fighting it.

Or someone who can recreate a big bang
they better have some multi-galactic range attacks
But eveything you throw at it will hit it because of its size

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@WebTool
No they were in the same galaxy during the entire fight
You realize TTGL was throwing galaxies as shurikens, right? TTGL is bigger than a galaxy, it cannot be inside one without taking up everything in it. As such, if it were inside the Milky Way it would probably bump into and annihilate Earth just by taking a step. The people on Earth could see the fight because of some wormhole thing, which was clearly shown in the series.

Or someone who can recreate a big bang
TTGL tanked anti-spiral's big bang beam.

But eveything you throw at it will hit it because of its size
Doesn't matter unless it penetrates into the cockpit to kill Simon and co since it can just regenerate as long as there's spiral energy, and whatever you throw at it probably wouldn't hit in time before TTGL hits you faster than the speed of light unless it's an instant attack.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Dreamworx
GER is broken though, if they clearly fight against each others MiH can't do anything, just like KC got rekt.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Spamalot
The best part of this chart is Chirico's placement, that got the best chuckle out of me.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Ignoramus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEbAqyhujs8

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Spamalot
Arceus's greatest feats are Extremespeed and Hyper Beam
It's not a match for Saber, let alone supergiant mecha or Goku.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Spamalot
Goku
Special Power
Not Special Tier

YEAH OKAY FAGGOT

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Spamalot
Here are a few changes that need to be conducted:
BATTLER and Beatrice higher for having low muliversal level reality warping along with existing on a higher plane of existence.
Yukari moved to the special tier because of the lack of knowledge on how her powers work and how strong she actually is. Same can be said about Featherine Augustus Aurora.
Gilgamesh moved up to planet busting tier.
Arceus moved far lower based off of what @Lord_Tryzalot
said.

And that's only the tip of the iceberg on what changes need to be made.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@VisualMaster
Gil
planet busting

Stop. That's not how Ea works at all.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Spamalot

You know this chart is old as fuck right?

viagrandad
viagrandad

@VisualMaster
I agree on Yukari, "manipulation of boundaries" is extremely vague and as far as I'm aware the most she's ever used it for is opening portals and creating barriers, despite her claims of manipulating "life and death" or "fantasy and reality".
Featherine's power of rewriting reality seems pretty explicitly demonstrated though when she kills Lambda with it. Much moreso than Bern or Lambdas abilities were. Putting her in Special tier would mean the other witches ought to go too, though they probably would be if they hadn't shown "do anything that isn't impossible" and "do anything as long as you keep trying" enabled universe-smashing magic.
Ea is nowhere near powerful enough to physically destroy Earth; it's an "Anti-World" weapon because it works by grinding and twisting the fabric of space, and the actual damage it causes is just shockwaves from that.
Arceus is hyped because in Pokémon lore it's worshiped by the people of Sinnoh as a creator diety, but in game its nothing special compared to any other Pokémon, and the closest it comes to the legends attributed to it is creating an Egg with help from a bunch of Unown in a questionably canon special event. Even in the anime canon I don't think it does anything special beyond dimension hopping and shooting relatively weak energy beams.

@Spamalot
@VisualMaster
Also, I think including Tohno/Nanaya Shiki is pretty redundant when there's already Ryougi/Void Shiki, since her version of MEODP is superior in every way.

Inmate
Inmate

@VisualMaster
Accel above Madara

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Elder God Demonbane > Myuugi > Demonbane

eGremlin
eGremlin

@viagrandad
Nah son, the reason why Fetherine should be in the special tier is because she is essentially the 'author'.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@VisualMaster
Getter Emperor
stronger then either GER or MIH
user plz, Jojo is bullshit and runs on concepts beyond absolutes.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@PackManBrainlure
If I correctly understand both of their abilities, they should be equal. And in Special Tier

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@eGremlin
I don't see why one level of metafiction is less valid than the other

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Sharpcharm
metafiction
Explain

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

LED Mirage > *

FastChef
FastChef

@VisualMaster
You do know your samefagging is obvious, right, Madokatard?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@VisualMaster
You're the only one who spams the shitty chart you made.

Powerlevel charts from Sheeky Forums never included Naruto characters.

Get the fuck out of Sheeky Forums, underaged cancer.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@PackManBrainlure

Nope. In case you don't know Eien Shinken powerlevels turned out to be even more ridiculous recently.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Poker_Star
Once it reached continental level+,it was inevitable.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Poker_Star

Yet including garbage like Fate or DBZ is fine?

Please. If you include one shonenshit you should include all of them.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Lunatick
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metafiction
Featherine is the avatar of the author of the story, who has and makes use of all the power that implies within the story. But that shouldn't make her or her powers any less valid for the purpose of the chart. The scope and mechanics of her power is made clear in the story; Special tier is supposed to be for characters whose abilities aren't clearly explained or demonstrated. Void Shiki is allegedly functionally omnipotent by being connected to the Root, but never demonstrates this. Lain might be actually omnipotent, or might just have the power to affect information or memories/perception, or she might just be a very delusional ordinary girl. Featherine and her power are quite clearly defined and demonstrated compared to those examples.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Flameblow
@New_Cliche
Keep telling yourself that Narutard.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Flameblow
It was never inevitable because you Narutards will never be accepted on Sheeky Forums.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Need_TLC
a manga has powerful character
MUH QUALITY

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@New_Cliche
Except DBZ characters only appeared the same time you added your shit characters, Narutard.

Underaged cancer like yourself attracts equally underaged cancer.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@FastChef
@Poker_Star
@Need_TLC
@happy_sad
obvious samefag
calls others samefags

SniperGod
SniperGod

Anything more i should know about Myuugi aside from she has a sword that literally erases everyone and everything she doesn't want?

SniperWish
SniperWish

@haveahappyday
Is the Narutard mad that no one finds his Madara copypasta funny?

Maybe you should go back to reddit.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Gigastrength

DBZ characters were always in you retard.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Burnblaze
Narutard can't even tell a samefag apart.

How pathetic. But it's not suprising since Narutards always samefag their threads on Sheeky Forums with the exact same posts they copied and pasted from the last thread they made.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@SniperGod
i have no clue where the hell shes even from, but that just sounds completely terribly written fanfiction shit.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Spamalot
Arceus is never caught in canon because you can't catch it without hacking.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@SniperGod

That's just her passive automatic defense. She can do literally everything. No limits.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@BinaryMan
Only Goku but never people like Bills.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Stark_Naked
hahahaha

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Spamalot
Can't speak for the others, but manga Sailormoon is completely and utterly hax. Usagi did everything that TTGL did, and more, and didn't even need a mecha for it.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

series elitism
about powerlevels

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Spamalot
Sounds like you're just butthurt that TTGL isn't at the top.

Skullbone
Skullbone

In case you guys still don't know, after recent Seinarukana side stories even Tokimi jumped above Demonbane.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Spamalot
pokemon weaker than a masterball

There is not and has never been a canon way to use a masterball on a wild Arceus. He could very well be uncatchable.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@eGremlin
Catch rate: 3

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Spamalot
You do know Sailor Moon becomes a goddess at the end of the series right? All powerful and everything

Yuki Nagato is a physical god, she can rewrite reality at a whim

Game =/= canon. Arcaus is a god and I'm pretty sure no trainer would be able to throw a master ball at it, let alone catch it.

TTGL is just a retard large mech

StonedTime
StonedTime

Why is Tachibana Hibiki so high up though?
Pretty sure Gilgamesh would destroy her.
Because, you know, gungnir is probably just one of his treasures.

MPmaster
MPmaster

I'm surprised Yui Ikari isn't on the list since she becomes a god in End of Evangelion

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@StonedTime
Gungnir != Gungnir

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Harmless_Venom
in terms of the lore
unused game mechanics don't mean shit

Evilember
Evilember

@StonedTime

Remember when they went to space or blew up the Moon?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Evilember
Ea can destroy the world though.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@StonedTime
PHONIC GAIN

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Harmless_Venom
You still have to use Action Replay to even get to Arceus though....

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@BunnyJinx

It can't you fucking idiots. That's not how it works at all.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Sharpcharm
Arceus is a god
Arceus is revered in Sinnoh region folk legends as the creator of the Sinnoh region. It never demonstrates anything of the sort, so it shouldn't get any such honor on this chart by the same rules everyone else has been placed by.
Even by the anime canon, it's not particularly more powerful than any other high-tier Pokèmon.

@Emberburn
lore
Just like how Magcargo's body is totally hotter than the Sun and looking into Nincada's back will steal your soul.

Nojokur
Nojokur

Holy shit GER is high as fuck.

likme
likme

@Stupidasole
Above the concepts of time and space
Not a god

Pls

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@likme
Above the concepts of time and space
You aren't serious are you?

Lunatick
Lunatick

@likme
citation needed
Pic related is more destructive power than Arceus has ever demonstrated

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Lunatick
Literally poops out the embodiments of time/space/anti-matter because some kid asked for one in HGSS

I bet you think the ashnime is canon to the games too

w8t4u
w8t4u

@viagrandad
Touhou shouldn't really be on there because relatively speaking, most of them are more powerful than every character on the board.

Flan can literally destroy anything she wants to ,no joke. If she wants to destroy, you, there's no way to stop her.

Yuyuko can literally kill you if she wants to, nothing you can do about it. If she wants you to die, you'll die.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Stupidasole
Just like how Magcargo's body is totally hotter than the Sun and looking into Nincada's back will steal your soul.
The Pokemon world operates on toonforce. Magcargo can be as hot as the sun all it wants, no one is going to be seriously injured because of it. Besides, no one gives a fuck about Magcargo anyway.

Shedinja can probably turn off the soul stealing thing voluntarity like how Ponyta can choose not to burn its riders.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Spamalot
kiss shot stronger than sakura
Ha, no.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@TurtleCat
Poops out an egg, with help from a swarm of Unown
Therefore it is stronger than universe-buster super mechs
Arceus is a huge llama that can shoot energy beams and move pretty fast. It's not even city-buster level.

@Flameblow
Your headcanon is irrelevant to these threads.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@w8t4u
Compared to the likes of Demonbane and GioGio they aren't that strong.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@w8t4u
Flan can literally destroy anything she wants to ,no joke. If she wants to destroy, you, there's no way to stop her.
Tear her arm off before she can clench her hand. You don't know how Flandre works, do you? Characters who are bound to linear time are nothing compared to the top levels of the chart.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@w8t4u
Flan can literally destory anything she wants to
Myuugi does that on auto-pilot and she doesn't even need to know it exists.
If Yuyuko wants you to die, you'll die.
You mistakenly believe most people in the upper levels will die if they're killed. Either way that's Special Tier material, since this chart is (supposed to be) about power, not Battle Royale.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@GoogleCat
Flan can regenerate, you do know all Youkai/Vampires can regenerate right? And this is even assuming you can get your hands on her in the first place.

likme
likme

@VisualMaster
You posted the wrong Powerlevel chart.
Don't move anything in the top tier you little shit.
Adding fucking Homura in the top tier. Fucking kill yourself.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@BinaryMan
Youkai are mortal as the rest of us, they go cross the Higan and get judged by the Yama.
Just because the damage required to get there is higher than a human's doesn't matter in the slightest when the damage being levied is "planet destroying", "star destroying", "galaxy destroying" etc. nonsense. The scale is just too high.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@likme
What happened to Azana?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Spamalot
Sailor Moon became a God and went to fight off Gods in the future.
Nagato was given a lot of power after the end of Disappearance.

@viagrandad
Yukari was lowered a long time ago as per requested and argued in the past. Her powers are vague but she's still powerful, even if she was only able to teleport her friends to the moon.
None of the witches will go in the special tier because they all have explained powers and are classifiable.
Gil is fine where he is.

I think including Tohno/Nanaya Shiki is pretty redundant when there's already Ryougi/Void Shiki, since her version of MEODP is superior in every way.
It's to seperate the two of of.
Void Shiki is her own thing while Shiki is the 'one hit kill' sort of Shiki to differentiate the two of them.

Arceus is simply added there because he is considered the 'God' of Pokemon. This was done to make sure the chart would not be overrun with Pokemons.

@BunnyJinx
She was never added, just like Homura, Tokimi and Aselina.
The faggot just added a bunch of things to the top tier for no reason and then decided to move them higher and lower for basically no reason.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@DeathDog
Kiss-shot is physically strong enough to leap across the planet, shattering an ice shelf in the process. She can crush solid steel like paper with the sheer force of her gaze.
Sakura's biggest feat is creating large spirits that are dispelled by large prana bursts.
In terms of a death battle it wouldn't even be close, Sakura is much squishier than Kiss-shot and without her insane regeneration or physical ability.
And there's no question who'd be better at killing Servants.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@happy_sad
Also her jumping and destroying Antarctica.

WebTool
WebTool

@TreeEater
There is no way Cena could beat Jackie Chan outside of a wrestling ring.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@likme
average homura even on there
with homura instead of god homura
sakuya out of all touhou

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Illusionz
Average Homura was always the base level. It's also a joke that she's the weakest because fuck Homura.
Had to add Homura in the Special tier because fuckers like him and Homurafag want her up because of waifu shit, even though her only powers are simply removing people's memories of Madoka, which is a weak as fuck power. Homurafags are just the worst.

TechHater
TechHater

@iluvmen
then use at least a picture of her final form

girlDog
girlDog

@Lord_Tryzalot

It's not a match for Saber

Arceus tanked an extinction level asteroid to save life on Earth. It wasn't just a scratch, it practically killed him and he spent the last tiny bit of his life dispersing himself into shards.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@TechHater
Pffft, no.
Her moon in the eyes is decent enough for people to know which one is which anyways, so it doesn't matter.

WebTool
WebTool

@Fried_Sushi
Featherine is the avatar of the author of the story, who has and makes use of all the power that implies within the story. But that shouldn't make her or her powers any less valid for the purpose of the chart.

That's stupid and actually common in stories. Might as well include the antagonist of Princess Tutu.

likme
likme

@WebTool
He only works for *his* universe. Featherine can go in and out of actual stories because she's a fanfic author, not simply an author.
He also cannot move 'out' of his story like Featherine. He is still an author that works and is stuck within the confines of his own universe.

Evilember
Evilember

@happy_sad
@DeathDog

Sakura needs to be in special tier, she can create a sword that can cut through anything and a shield that can defend against anything.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Fried_Sushi
Also, to add, Featherine isn't simply the avatar of the story. Such avatars can be seen all the time in many works of fiction but they don't generally influence or take part in the story. They are mostly simply cameos of the avatar who may or may not interact with the characters.

The difference with Featherine is that although she may be considered the avatar of the author, she is still her own character with her own backstory and motivation.
This gives her validity in being added in the Powerlevel chart compared to other avatar characters that exist.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Evilember
That's not a factor determining her 'power', only her tools.
This logic only applies to Doraemon because he has a pocket that has literally everything in it, including a sword that can cut through anything and whatever else he has in there.

@Garbage Can Lid
What a clusterfuck.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@likme
Featherine can go in and out of actual stories because she's a fanfic author, not simply an author.

Featherine cannot move out of her stories because her stories are only the ones the author writes.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@happy_sad
That's not a factor determining her 'power', only her tools.

What? The tools she can wield and summon are not a factor in determining her power? What nonsense is this?

Soft_member
Soft_member

strongest Vampire not on the list

girlDog
girlDog

@likme

Homura is a universal level God after Rebellion. Multiversal technically since she went through over a 100 alternate universes.

Evilember
Evilember

@iluvmen

Holy shit, it's the autistic Homuhater. No thread is safe from that retard.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Gigastrength
She goes out of the meta itself to writer 'the story' of the events unfolding as it happens in front of her.

https://youtu.be/wA4WSWNUJhs?t=14m15s
At 14:15.

@ZeroReborn
Yes and no. Simply having the strongest attack and defense doesn't measure powerlevel and it is a poor reason to have such a person in the special tier. Rather, only what they have demonstrated as their power is what ranks them.

Sakura has no need to be moved. She is fine where she is.

@girlDog
Pfffft, no.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Garbage Can Lid
no reason

You mean besides the fact that they should be there?

Bidwell
Bidwell

@AwesomeTucker
Pfffft, no.

What an argument.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@AwesomeTucker
Rather, only what they have demonstrated as their power is what ranks them.

See: @Fried_Sushi

Special tier is supposed to be for characters whose abilities aren't clearly explained or demonstrated. Void Shiki is allegedly functionally omnipotent by being connected to the Root, but never demonstrates this.

CCS was never about big stick whacking contests, it was a show about growing up with magic in it. Very powerful magic though.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@AwesomeTucker

Wait, have you even seen Card Captor Sakura?

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Soft_member

That's not Flan.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@DeathDog

he doesn't know about dee

Brace yourself

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Ignoramus
No discussion was made to include them. As such, there was no reason to add them. He simply ''added whatever characters he wanted and move the top tier''.

@iluvmen
Yes.
I think I'm talking about the wrong Sakura. Fuck me. I really need sleep.
Never mind, CCS is fine where she is.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@happy_sad
Never mind, CCS is fine where she is.

Nah, she definitely belongs in special tier. I don't think you have even seen CCS.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@happy_sad

What discussion? 90% of people in those threads know shit about those characters.

It's always my character > your character shit.

That chart makes perfect sense and top tier characters are placed very well.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Burnblaze
I disagree and have no reason to see her in the Special Tier. She can be charted and placed.

@RumChicken
I have heard no discussion for why any of those characters should be placed. Keep most of the top tier stable is good. Moving the top tier cap by mixing everyone high and low disrupts that.

Soft_member
Soft_member

Arcueid needs to be moved. On par with boosted high tier Gods in the Moon Cell. Most of which are capable of easily destroying planets and are billions of times FTL.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Firespawn
She can be charted and placed.

She actually can't and you haven't even seen CCS.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Soft_member
She's not "on par", she's a good ways below Amaterasu. She's just the only person who could hope to fight Amaterasu and not instantly die because of the terraforming effect around her.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@kizzmybutt
Still, there's no mistake about her being on the broken level if she gained her sanity back.
Her authority of "reducing all abilities of any target to a sixth if the stage is the moon" should be an effective countermeasure against other enemies on the same broken tier.
Even BB who became the Moon Cell is subject to this restriction.

She is on par with beings like BB and Saver, the 1/6 power reduction is an effective countemeasure against them. Said restriction is unlikely to work on Amaterasu though, since she is the Earth borne version. And Amaterasu is special anyway, due to Moon Cell boost and the conceptual advantage of Sun > Earth > Moon.

likme
likme

Ajimu beats Demonbane easily.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@happy_sad
Demonbane Athletha Aeternum above Kami Tenchi, TOAA, Hajun and Featherine (kek, why is she around the top, witches didn't even exist, go play Umineko first dude),

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@kizzmybutt
she doesn't exist
Maybe you're the one who should read Umineko.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Spazyfool
Please. Every powerlevel thread in japan never even consider Featherine and her honcho as something relevant.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Spazyfool
No U
Sure is summer here.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@SniperGod
japan said something therefore it is!
Featherine exist in the Umineko world, past the meta and story, after the story is over. Whether you or japan accepts it or not is irrelevant.

When Japan puts the kid with a pokeball at their top choice in a powerlevel, I don't full listen.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Booteefool
arceus is in the top of the chart
kid with a pokeball can have any pokemon including arceus AND other five pokemon if he has more pokeballs

Inmate
Inmate

@Spazyfool
Arceus is the God of pokemon, that's different. A kid has no powers other than controlling things he captures. That's not high power in any way.

likme
likme

@Booteefool
Sounds like your headcanon. This is so stupid like those no limit fallacy saitama stays in the story after the story is over because he is and he can also punch any reality bender ever.
This is how stupid you sounds.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Inmate
If the kid has the power to control the god of pokemon, and has a god of pokemon with him, it is a very high power. the kid can control the gods

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@likme
There are no reality benders in Saitama's universe, that is why he's the strongest. Everything is tied to the physical.

@Skullbone
Control is not a high power.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@WebTool
this

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Skullbone
Also, control is not a destructive power, it is an appropriation of power.

The kid, left on his own, with zero caught pokemon or whatever, is weak. This is why he is not added and why Japan is wrong.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@TreeEater
Kirito at the same level as SSG Goku
Bait right?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Can anyone defeat her?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Dreamworx
Because GER isn't active all the time and depends on Giorno activating it.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Soft_member
D is fucking bullshit and reads like a fanfic character.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@TreeEater
Santa weaker than Jackie Chan

takes2long
takes2long

@Spamalot
Stat her Sheeky Forums.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@takes2long
Forgot pic.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Harmless_Venom
She honestly isn't all that.

Having a quadrillion skills sounds like a lot but any omnipotent character at least has an infinite number of skills. Anything she can do they can do better.

girlDog
girlDog

@TreeEater
This image is clearly wrong. I fixed it for you.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Garbage Can Lid
Shurouga Sin Specification
Height: 32.4m
Weight: 58.1t.
If it is so powerful why it is so small?

Emberburn
Emberburn

@TreeEater
tbh seriously this chart is best

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@VisualMaster
Kek, this is why you sounds so stupid. Esper by like Tatsumaki itself is a reality bender because they can bend whatever law of universe they have. Saitama itself is a reality bender in terms of his strength progression and all the talks about how he broke his limit.
Please read more nips literature if you want to start posting in this thread before you embarass yourself more.
Control is high power. If that pokemen god is omnipotent being in its universe but it can be controlled and sealed with pokeball then @Skullbone

@Garbage Can Lid
That's why you can put argumentation in something like Satoshi with all pokemen that contain all pokeball or pokedex and constantly breeding that god pokemen > a single god pokemen.
Just like how Demonbane with Athletha Aeternum > One-handed god of destruction Demonbane > EGD (which defeated by One-handed god of destruction Demonbane.

@Fried_Sushi
Stop looking at it. Shurouga sin isn't even at the top of powerlevel thread. It is bought by some secondary ret/a/rd who feed on the lies created by /m/ board.

FastChef
FastChef

@Harmless_Venom
Fresh?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Lets be honest here, Shichika would FUCK up Kenshiro

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Spamalot
Yuki Nagato actually isn't even supposed to be that high. All she had ever done is take control of Haruhi's power and even Haruhi's power only control that one specific universe. I really don't understand why people put it that high.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Spamalot
TTGL have more than size. It have all the weapon before it and that includes the weapon that can shoot every point of space and time.

askme
askme

Getter Emperor shouldn't be that high. It's weak as fuck. It's a weaker version of TTGL.

Supergrass
Supergrass

www41.atwiki.jp/goronka/pages/1.html

RumChicken
RumChicken

@askme
Getter Emperor gattai can cause big bang, it means its getter beam is stronger than anything TTGL can do.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@RumChicken
big bang
Such a weak attack. TTGL had already withstand that.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Poker_Star
You clearly don't know what is a reality bender and you're cool with saying ''oh, a telekenesis who 'moves' objects and whatnot' is a reality bender when it clearly isn't. The fact is that, in Saitama's universe, everything simply boils down to the physical, even fucking magic.

Control is weak because, as said, if alone, it is weak. You know nothing. You are simply looking at it as a who can beat who rather than destructibility on its own.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@TurtleCat
Not even. The guy is weak as fuck

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@TurtleCat
Shichika got fucked up by bullets, while Kenshiro eats mohawk guys with shotguns for breakfast.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Lunatick
Destructibility of its own
The reason still stands that Demonbane is the top most of powerlevel because it can destroys everything from universe>multiverse>megaverse>omniverse>sugssverse meanwhile all the top level character in that chart is still at multiverse, only Myuugi can handle Megaverse.
Not even KamiTenchi or Featherine can do that.

@Lunatick
'oh, a telekenesis who 'moves' objects and whatnot' is a reality bender when it clearly isn't
You don't really know how physics works aren't you?
No you are wrong because I said so, Hurrr.
Sorry. I guess it is impossible to have a proper discussion with uminekofag. What a waste of time and life.

TechHater
TechHater

@SomethingNew

The shit he pulls is fucking hilarious though, you have to admit.

There's literally nobody in this thread who could take him

FastChef
FastChef

@Lunatick
You are just over-simplifying things. Can't help the mind of powerlevel thread participant. I'm out.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@TechHater
Your pic looks like your face if you believed what you just typed.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@FastChef
You're the one that is saying that fucking telekinesis is reality bending.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Poker_Star
A mon collector is not using their own power.
Arceus is not a Pokémon Trainer's Stand. Going by the same lore source that says Arceus created Sinnoh, Wild Pokémon challenge Trainers to battles to see if they're worthy of their help. Arceus is simply that Trainer's ally, and if it's been captured and still doesn't deem the Trainer worthy (not having enough badges), it just won't listen. Pokéballs don't grant any control over Pokémon beyond being able to easily store and carry them. The Pokémon are separate beings who are just the Trainer's allies. Considering them representative of the Trainer's own power turns this from "which character is the most powerful" to "who has the strongest friends". Yamcha would be above Accelerator and Unit-01 because he's friends with Goku.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@TurtleCat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFG61_T-J14
Musou tensei>kyoto ryu. Justice>power.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@iluvmen

he doesn't know about D!

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Flameblow
yes it is you tard. they bend reality in the minuscle aspects of motion, atom, ion and whatever they moved while keeping their shape intact.

@Dreamworx
i already read that D guy and he doesn't seems impressive against the top guy in the top floor. maybe he can stay in the second or third from top most floor though.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@RumChicken
No one cared.

likme
likme

@RumChicken
That's not bending reality, it's fucking moving it.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@RumChicken
he doesn't seems impressive against the top guy in the top floor.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@RumChicken
Then TTGL and any other piloted mecha can't be put in that chart because they are just a lump of iron.

@likme
That means bending the law of physics thermodyamic, Newton's and whatever law that laid foundation in whatever world they have you schmuck.

likme
likme

@Dreamworx
I'll be honest, I don't exactly know who this 'D' guy is but I doubt that he could even touch Demonbane before ceasing to exist.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Spamalot
Where am I?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@iluvmen
just a lump of iron
ttgl himself is made of who knows what, but sttgl is made of pure spiral energy, a force that has shown potential to negate the laws of physics, probability, and causality.
my argument has consistently been that sttgl belongs in the special tier list

MPmaster
MPmaster

Where is Hatou Gaku from? What's her power?

cum2soon
cum2soon

@likme

D is jokingly referred to as being short for Demonbane.

He's broken

takes2long
takes2long

@likme
He is immortal and have other stuff but just like what you said.

@Lunatick
Higher than this @Flameblow
@likme
sad guy

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Sir_Gallonhead

@haveahappyday

Also it can't ressurect Nia. So your argument is moot and nothing than no limit fallacy.
It can't even defeat AntiSpiral who purposely make itself weaker so it can humiliate its enemies.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@takes2long
Are you attempting to imply that Demonbane hasn't already beaten immortals even before it became the nigh omnipotent entity we know of today?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Supergrass
The no1 of that Japanese list is Transrealism or more specifically Master of Space and Time. I've read through it and I'm honestly not impressed.

There is an instance where the two main characters reach superspace, which probably is absolute infinity/omniverse. But the characters don't have any actual dominion over it, they are just two guys along for the ride.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@iluvmen
Then TTGL and any other piloted mecha can't be put in that chart because they are just a lump of iron.
Wrong. They are a weapon being used.
Pokémon are allies who fight on your behalf.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Lunatick
Not currently ranked.

@MPmaster
She is her own army.

@iluvmen
Do you not know what bending is or are you simply going to say that any power that doesn't follow the rules of physics as reality bending?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Garbage Can Lid
Antispiral are stronger than TTGL.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@MPmaster
Quantum travel, reality warping and probability manipulation. Also @RavySnake
She's from Qualia the Purple.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Crazy_Nice
being this new
Exception Breeze: Create an exception skill
Ajimu beats Demonbane.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@takes2long

D is the strongest vampire.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Garbage Can Lid
She still can't defeat a Main Character.

5mileys
5mileys

@Garbage Can Lid
Do I need to remind you that any omnipotent character has that skill? And an infinite number of stronger variants? And any possible counters? And any possible counters to those counters?

Infinity > any finite number of skills.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Garbage Can Lid
The faggot just added a bunch of things to the top tier for no reason and then decided to move them higher and lower for basically no reason
Homura shouldn't be added since her feats can't really be quantified in a way that can be compared to other characters. Tokimi and Aselia were added and then put higher because the new extra material basically made them broken as fuck.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@VisualMaster
Gil
Anywhere near Accelerator's level

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

How strong are they?

likme
likme

@Stark_Naked
In a Character vs Character meta, there is no main character.

@5mileys
Even if you think it's nonsense, nonsense is possible for Ajimu.
Nonsense Dictionary: Nonsense skill

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Stark_Naked
Bernkastel can control every main character in all of fiction and reduce them as her cat.
Meaning that Bernkastel can defeat Ajimu.

@w8t4u
Homura shouldn't be added since her feats can't really be quantified in a way that can be compared to other characters.
I agree, which is why she was moved to the Special Tier.
What powers does Tokimi and Aselia have?

I don't mind having them in the Powerlevel chart but I just want to know more about them.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Playboyize
Bernkastel can control every main character in all of fiction and reduce them as her cat.

Hilarious and dumb.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Emberfire
Ea
Not wrecking Acceletaror

farquit
farquit

@AwesomeTucker
I haven't read Umineko
I made a mistake, she can reduce all the main characters as her cats*, not singular.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@farquit

And I never will, I have better things to do than sink tens of hours into a fanfic tier VN

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Nude_Bikergirl
Ea
Doing anything to Acceleterror

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@PackManBrainlure
postmodern work
fanfiction tier

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Emberfire
Neither of them are anywhere near planet-buster tier

@Nude_Bikergirl
Ea grinds space to generate shockwaves
Accelerator could auto-reflect it

hairygrape
hairygrape

@likme
there is no main character.
That has sense.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Yukari should be in the special tier

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Spazyfool

Pretty much yeah.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@likme
Nonsense Dictionary: Nonsense skill

Again any omnipotent character has superior variants and infinite counters to that skill.

I can do this NO U contest all day if you want.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@happy_sad
Ea shatters space time recreating the primordial hell before Genesis. Accelerator has never redirected anything neither of that nature nor of that scale.

farquit
farquit

@Fried_Sushi
I take Gilgamesh's flowery gloating bullshit at face value

Fate/side material - Encyclopedia: The Star of Creation that Split Heaven & Earth [Noble Phantasm], p.066
Enuma Elish.
The cutting of space with the Sword of Rupture, Ea.
Air pressure faults, compressed and smashed against each other, become a pseudo-fault in time and space that pulverizes all who oppose it.
With output matching or even exceeding Excalibur, it is without a doubt the sword that "cut the world".
Strictly speaking, the Noble Phantasm is actually Ea, while Enuma Elish is the name of Ea's maximum output state.
He's city-buster material. His proper placement would about halfway above Saber.

idontknow
idontknow

@happy_sad
Accel can easily destroy the planet. Unless you've forgotten when he took 5 minutes worth of the Earths rotational energy and threw a skyscraper at light speed into the windowless building. And this was before he even got his wings.

Methshot
Methshot

@Skullbone
Except it can't. Clearly you don't understand the concept of nonsense.

Sorry, but Ajimu wins, you lose. Bow down to your queen.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@farquit
You just proved my point with that quote. What does it matter if it's only a city buster? It still shatters space time and recreates Genesis within a limited radius.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@idontknow
That makes him a continent buster at best.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@TalkBomber
shatters space time and recreates Genesis
That's a weird way to spell "shoots compressed air really hard"

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Methshot
Except they can, because they are omnipotent.

If your character has a power that an omnipotent character doesn't have, they can't be called omnipotent because they don't have every single power. By definition then any omnipotent character will have that "nonsense" skill.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Methshot
@Booteefool

Looks like Ajimu loses this round.

idontknow
idontknow

@idontknow
threw a skyscraper at light speed
citation needed

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@TreeEater
What's the character all the way at the top?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Evil_kitten
A weapon that slices through space itself. While Excalibur releases air, the sword draws it in by cycling its triblades and compresses it. The highly compressed wind pressure strata results in the creation of an artificial space-time rift that is thought to be the basis of all legends of lands of the dead, the origin of the memory of all organisms. In other words, Ea can be said to be a key to hell itself or rather absolute "truth" according to Gilgamesh. Something that is not found in the imagination or in the spoken memory of people, but in the genetically inherent and repressed knowledge of a place and time when organic existence had been impossible on this planet.

user, stop being retarded.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Evil_kitten
I think he meant this.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@kizzmybutt
A paragraph of bullshit from the Wiki is definitely a better source than guidebooks

@LuckyDusty
Fate/complete material II: Character material - Weapons: Ea, p.133
Gilgamesh’s favored Noble Phantasm, the Sword of Rupture Ea. Of all his countless Noble Phantasms, this is one of the few that he trusts implicitly.
The blade is divided into three parts, all of which rotate individually. Honestly, calling it a sword at all is a bit of a farce. When it goes into overload, gaseous energy shoots out of the seams between the segments.
The space-cutting technique fired from this overloaded state is called “Enuma Elish”, and boasts destructive power on the same level as Excalibur.
Ea takes in compressed air, grinds it to plasma, and releases it as that very poetic wave of energy. Gilgamesh can boast about it however he wants, it's still only slightly more powerful than Excalibur.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Booteefool
It's from the guidebooks, faggot.

Enuma Elish [Noble Phantasm]
Source: Fate/side material (2004-1-30), p.066
Fate Dictionary
Star of Creation that Split Heaven and Earth.
The cutting of space with the Sword of Rupture, Ea.
Air pressure faults, compressed and smashed against each other, become a pseudo-fault in time and space that pulverizes all who oppose it.
With output matching or even exceeding Excalibur, it is without a doubt the sword that "cut the world".
Strictly speaking, the Noble Phantasm is actually Ea, while Enuma Elish is the name of Ea's maximum output state

You are cherry picking, saying it's only wind when it's clearly stated it cuts through space and recreates Genesis. You clearly have no idea what a Noble Phantasm is, just so you know they are crystalized mysteries, and Enuma Elish represents the legend of cutting apart the world before Genesis.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Lunatick
No, he's at angel level now, he could destroy the planet for sure if he wanted to.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Booteefool
He doesn't shoot anything in HA, it's a different attack.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@eGremlin
And you can keep saying "slices through the world" and "recreates Genesis" but the reality will still be that it's been consistently stated that attack is only a little more powerful than Excalibur.
Gilgamesh isn't shit.

TechHater
TechHater

@eGremlin
cuts through space and recreates Genesis
cutting has a vector
Accel would reverse the vector and Ea would implode
Were you born this way, or did you grow into retardation?

RavySnake
RavySnake

@eGremlin
It's literally only a little bit more powerful than Excalibur. Gilwank is the absolute worst kind of wank, my fucking god.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Poker_Star
EGD defeated by God of Destruction
Stop spreading this shit. DYN already disproved rampaging Demonbane doing such a thing when Narukami became an Elder God.

@Harmless_Venom
That "weak attack" nearly wiped out TTGL, required a sacrifice to convert into a powerup, and still wasn't enough to clear the gap between STTGL and the Antispiral. Emperor on the other hand reaches that output just from combining, blows past it, and keeps gathering power with no clear end in sight.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Playboyize
What powers does Tokimi and Aselia have?
Tokimi essentially got a lot more freedom to her ability to manipulate time and space. It reached a level where she can simply erase powerful Eternals from existence by overwriting the past. Though this is kinda limited by the fact that using it too much can break the multiverse.

It was revealed that Aselia's sword is actually a weakened version of one of the three (?) Rank 0 Eternity swords. She at one point unlocks the sword's full power and stops just short of reaching of Myuugi's level. The details are kinda fuzzy since I never got to read the fully translated materials, so take it with a grain of salt.

MPmaster
MPmaster

Hebi-kun can automatically defeat any character that is impure. Holding unlimited power in your hands means nothing if the hands themselves are easily crushed.

girlDog
girlDog

@hairygrape
He got knocked out by a continent level attack while on full angel form. He ain't planet level.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@MPmaster
Cool, but it doesn't mean much when a good chunk of the chart is righteous motherfuckers.

TechHater
TechHater

@MPmaster
'impure' is too vague.

askme
askme

Ajimu is the strongest character in the anime/manga/VNvers, no question.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@askme
Wrecked by fucking Kumagawa back during his huge loser streak. Anyone capable of pulling a seal on the scope of Book Maker or better can wreck her shit.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@w8t4u
I see.
Well I guess Tokimi could be placed near Zeel's level or a bit higher considering the level destructibility.
As for Aselia, if she's basically the same as Myuugi at her strongest, doesn't need to be added since Myuugi takes her place.

But, again, I'm taking this with a grain of salt, so I'm not going to add them.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Raving_Cute
Is Demonbane's purpose to destroy evil, or is its purpose to fight evil?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Harmless_Venom
Destroy.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Evil_kitten
So then why does evil still exist in his universe?

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Harmless_Venom
There are infinite Demonbanes for each purpose

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Poker_Star
pretty sure it doesn't

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Poker_Star
Because going full justice means reality ceases to exist.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@girlDog
You don't need to be as durable as a planet to destroy one. And that was a special attack anyways, straight from Fiamma.

likme
likme

@Crazy_Nice
So then his purpose ultimately ISN'T to destroy evil, it's merely to fight evil. Which means he can be trapped in a time loop where he fights the same thing over and over again.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@SomethingNew
If he could output planet level powers, he would have done so to counter that.

attack from Fiamma

Irrelevant. The attack was mentioned to be strong enough to only wipe out Eurasia.

You don't have any proof angel Accel can planet bust anyway.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@likme
No. Demonbane's purpose is to be justice. The form of justice doesn't matter and so it generally retracts from slaying all evil for the sake of mortals, but it can switch gears and become pure, indiscriminate justice if it feels like it. The backstory of DYN is Demonbane decided to do just that and as a result is an even bigger threat to mortals than even the evil gods since it's killed every fucking universe out there save one. End result is everyone including the Outer Gods are fucked and so they have to play good guy in order to save everything.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@likme
@VisualMaster
@Garbage Can Lid
@girlDog
Arcueid above Gilgamesh.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@King_Martha
Gilgamesh being suited to fight Arcueid doesn't magically make him capable of hitting harder than her you know.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@w8t4u
Yuyuko couldn't kill Mokou

iluvmen
iluvmen

@King_Martha
Ea could maybe, briefly, cut her off from the planet while she's engulfed in it, similar to how Shiki "killed" the planet around her to cut her off once. This gives him slightly more favorable odds than most other Servants.
She's still totally beyond his level. In her normal 30% state she's stated to be around 4x as powerful as a Servant. If she's going all out, or is otherwise at full power ala Archetype Earth, she's essentially an avatar the Counter Force; it's like fighting Gaia itself.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@girlDog
Jackie Chan that wants no trouble
Jackie Chan when Drunk
kek

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Fuzzy_Logic
Arcueid cannot destroy planet.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Poker_Star
@likme

It won't for much longer.

D.Y.N. Freaks (the latest chapter of the Demonbane metaverse) ends on a terrifying note of Demonbane entering the last universe, prepared to bring about the end of all.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Spamalot
Why is DIO so low? His stand is the ability to use other Joestar abilities. That would include GER as well.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Skullbone
Neither could Gilgamesh.
Planetary destruction is exceptionally difficult in Type-Moon, because Nasu actually has a sense of scale unlike some writers.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Skullbone
Arcueid can drop a mirror of the moon. As Archetype Earth she fires energy beams in outer space.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Skullbone
Neither can Gilgamesh you idiot. Ea's designation as Anti-World never meant it could kill the whole planet, but that it's power interfered with Gaia's grand Rm. Arc is still completely superior to him but is unsuited to fighting him because of all his treasures. She still completely overpowers him since can pull fucking moondrops.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Need_TLC
@Deadlyinx
@StrangeWizard
Hmm, you are right, but I still think that Arcueid's power is overrated.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

It really upsets me that Alita isn't higher than Madara.

Inmate
Inmate

@TurtleCat
Jesus.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Ignoramus
Being able to take all that energy from the earths rotation in post brain damage pre angel mode means he can probably do obscene things to the earth if he wanted to. But he doesn't, since as he has said before he needs a place to live.

Inmate
Inmate

@LuckyDusty

Gil could maybe fight 30% Arc. Serious Arc would rape him.

TechHater
TechHater

@kizzmybutt
That's still speculation bro. Most characters can be said to be way stronger than they actually are if you take speculation and extrapolation to the extreme.

girlDog
girlDog

@Gigastrength
Nagato Yuki is arguably stronger than them all.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@girlDog
Jawn Cena
Onii-sama

Every time

farquit
farquit

@Dreamworx
We also don't know if Gio kept the requiem stand or if it went back to normal GE, basically that's a terrible example.

idontknow
idontknow

@Garbage Can Lid
tohno above void shiki

the full retard

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@idontknow
void's powers aren't even categorized properly, should be divine being. That list is garbage and I feel bad for whoever spent time on it.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Garbage Can Lid
Gilgamesh that low
It's like everyone conveniently forgets that he has counters to most things in his GoB. Only way he'd lose to those 2-3 rows above him in that is if he is at his absolute worst. If that's what we're going after then Izzard should barely even place.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@BlogWobbles
His counters are only really special against Nasuverse beings buddy. Or what, you think he's gonna magically have an army of mechanical beasts to gangrape Mazinger Z? Because he sure as fuck ain't getting through that armor with swordspam, and even Ea would find issue from a fucking Breast Fire. And that's just from regular Z. Gods help goldie if he gets stuck fighting Z's newer incarnations.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@idontknow
That's the least thing that should bother you.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@New_Cliche
Too much hax

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Spamalot
LoN
Lower than anything

OMNIPOTENT YOU FUCKING RETARDS

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Garbage Can Lid
Kenshiro
Higher than Tetsuo

Yeah nah. Stop being retarded

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@happy_sad
Is this your first powerlevel thread?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@TreeEater
The one above all
Its the fucking celestial version
TRIGGERED

TechHater
TechHater

@Spamalot
Charts are fucking stupid because its literally just some random basement dwelling user spouting his opinions, yet the fucking underage just keep eating this shit up like its some canon statement

massdebater
massdebater

You will never have enough autism to properly research and correct everything on these fucking charts

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@happy_sad
My omnipotence> your omnipotence
My multiverse >> your multiverse
My waifu >>> shit >>>> you're waifu

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Garbage Can Lid
Why the fuck is there so much on here. What's the point putting multiple people from the same series on the same level. It's such a clusterfuck that the difference in power-level is arbitrary

Snarelure
Snarelure

These charts would really be better if it was about categorizing characters as galaxy destroying -> universe destroying -> multiverse destroying -> multiverse^x destroying -> fuck you literally unbeatable tier

Emberburn
Emberburn

@happy_sad

You mean like 20 other characters on the chart?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@happy_sad
I like this meme.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Snarelure
That's what the Japanese lists do. Like in http://www41.atwiki.jp/goronka/pages/11.html.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Snarelure
I remember there was some effort to split it into three tiers not too long ago, but of course nobody could agree on where the cutoffs should be, most powerlevels above city-buster and especially planet-buster are ambiguous in scale, people got butthurt their waifu was lower tier than your waifu, and discussion was split three ways.
This sort of thing is pretty much impossible to do with any consistency when the characters are playing by different rulebooks.

likme
likme

@Emberfire
that wiki
lmao

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