Accelerator Vs Touma

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Why wasn't this fight a one-sided domination from Accelerator?

WebTool
WebTool

@Stupidasole
Because he's Touma

RumChicken
RumChicken

Because plot armor and plot induced stupidity. You know, standard shounenshit writing.

likme
likme

@Stupidasole
Because Accel is a stupid faggot loved by edgy 13 year olds.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Stupidasole
Because Touma is protected by the writters. Seriously all Accelerator had to do was fight from range and when he did Touma dodged literally everything like it was nothing.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Stupidasole
because if it was Touma would of died, so they made Accelerator retarded.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Stupidasole
Touma can only be defeated by one more moral than he is.

askme
askme

@Stupidasole
Because Accelerator doesn't know how to fight while Touma does.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@likme
Whatever you say toumafag.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Stupidasole
Because of Touma's Imagine Breaker? Do you even watch Index?

Emberburn
Emberburn

Can create mini earthquakes
Can Whip out a tornado if he wants to
Still loses to a guy who can only throw shitty punches

Emberfire
Emberfire

What kind of stupid question is this?
Plot armour trumps all, how does anyone not yet know this?

Emberburn
Emberburn

@StrangeWizard
Imagine breaker won't save him when a giant boulder is being dropped on him though.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Emberburn
there's a bit of divine luck thrown in there as well

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Stupidasole
Because the idiot writer made him switch to a close range fight after already showing off how he dominated at a ranged fight.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Stupidasole
Read the LN. Touma says Accelerator is weak as shit, also he feels more pain than anyone else.

Also Touma was already fucking rekt before fighting accelerator thanks to Mikoto overcharching him with 1 billion volts.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Stupidasole

Because the creator of the series didn't think about how truly story-breaking it was for a character to have complete control and manipulation of all the vector values for everything around them.

And by the time they did realize how over powered such an ability was the only way for any other character to stand any sort of chance against him; Accelerator had to undergo the classic forms of plot induced weakening, so as to keep the story moving.

Nothing special. Just ignorance on the creators part.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Same reason Shirou beat Gilgamesh.

askme
askme

@TalkBomber
Because the idiot writer made him switch to a close range fight after already showing off how he dominated at a ranged fight.

Accelerator didn't know about Imagine Breaker, he played with Touma and when he went to kill him(by touching him and making him explode) Touma punched the shit out of him with Imagine Breaker.

That's when Touma notices that accelerator fights like a little girl, so when his powers are not working he's just like a little girl.
Accel then was going to kill Imouto and Mikoto but he felt that he was going to die if he gave his back to Touma(He literally says he's scared) he started gathering Plasma to kill Touma but Mikoto and Imouto cancelled that.
In that moment Touma went like a bat out of hell and punched the shit out of him.

Stay mad Accelfag, your fuckboi got rekt TWICE

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@viagrandad
Touma says Accelerator is weak as shit

Why does it matter what he says?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Stupidasole
Because Accelerator is a pompous bastard who never went through life knowing how it felt for something to NOT go the way he wanted. He felt like he was a god that could never be touched which eventually evolved into his persona. That's why when his first few attacks on Touma didn't work he got mindfucked and lost his resolve. He got scared because he didn't know what was happening and how to prevent it. It was a situation totally foreign to him and it led to his defeat because he underestimated Touma.

idontknow
idontknow

Didn't Accelerator fuck up Touma and make him collapse from high in the sky when he was doing that plasma shit?

How the fuck did he get up after that?

likme
likme

@Emberburn
If the boulder is being controlled by some kind of esper or magic power he can block it with his IB.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@TurtleCat
Because Touma explains that Accel can't fight for shit, he moves like a literal faggot and he tries to punch Touma with his hand open or something, Kamijo says that the way he puts his hand is like asking "Please break my fingers".

MPmaster
MPmaster

@askme
I see that fight was clearly retarded
that makes me an accelfag

Touma gets bullshit luck all the time in his fights. I was just pointing what was bullshit in this particular fight.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Stupidasole
Just like how Shirou BTFO Gil
OP as fuck character got way too cocky and by the time he took it seriously it was too late

farquit
farquit

@idontknow
Same way he got up fine and dandy(not really) to fight accel after Misaka electrocuted with 1 BILLION VOLTS

Do people really think Touma is a normal human?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

I'm so glad they redid this fight in Railgun. Shit felt good watching it with a higher budget.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Why wasn't this a one-sided fight from Gilgamesh?

StonedTime
StonedTime

@likme
If the boulder is directly over him there's only one direction the laws of nature will take it.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Spamalot
Accelerator in that matter wasn't like Gil at all, it wasn't because he was being cocky, it was because he was fucking SCARED.
He didn't understand what the fuck was happening, why the fuck was Touma punching him. It also didn't help that Touma punching him hurted 10 times more than normal

happy_sad
happy_sad

@kizzmybutt
If you can manipulate vectors and shit, is there any need of being able to fight hand to hand?

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Burnblaze
Because Gil was too cocky, didn't have his armor on, didn't use his strongest weapon from the start, and UBW makes Shirou faster at summoning weapons and throwing them at Gil than his GoB.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@happy_sad
No, and that's EXACTLY why he lost when he fought a dude that his vector powers didn't work on.

You got your answer for yourself Accelfag, congrats.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@SniperGod
Stop replying to bait.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@happy_sad
Exactly. That's why he can't fight for shit without his powers and when Touma's IB blocks his powers he's basically weak as fuck because he can't even rely on his physical strength to protect him.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@eGremlin
He could still use his ability while keeping distance from touma.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Didn't they have a rematch or something, what happened in that? Did Touma asspull a victory again?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Illusionz
Didn't you read my first post saying that Accelerator was going to kill Touma by making him explode(touching him) and when he got near Touma fucking REKT him?

After that Accel's mind was taking a trip to Hawaii, he was scared and didn't understand what was going on and why was he being punched(like I said he feels way more pain than he should).

Accelerator DID get back, he got back and started gathering plasma, Mikoto and Imouto fucked his plans of using plasma and Touma just kicked his ass in the meantime. But after the first punches accelerator just stopped thinking clearly.

I don't think you understand the fact that he was being punched for the first time in his life, he was being dodged easily(thanks to him not knowing how to fight for shit while Touma does) and all that by a seemingly normal dude.

cum2soon
cum2soon

this is the guy that is expected to defeat the Flash

hairygrape
hairygrape

@cum2soon
Accelerator got like 2 huge power ups though.

Still, he can't beat the flash. I mean, unless The Flash is too fucking stupid to run straight to him and punch him with all his speed, he would die by his own strenght, but he's not stupid.

TechHater
TechHater

@cum2soon
Implying he can't

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@TechHater
Depends on what universes rules apply, etc etc.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@hairygrape
We're talking about the same guy who walked himself into a sword even though he has ftl reaction times.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Stupidasole
As demonstrated by kihara beating the shit out of him: If you can negate accelerater's power then you can beat him to death with basic street fighting because he's frail little faggot.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@cum2soon
If it's nignog wally west then yeah.

/co/ is fucking cancer. Your iconic characters become niggers from one day to the other. DC gives 0 fucks about you

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@happy_sad
More like MFTL++++.

But yeah, if he's retarded enough to run straight and punch Accelerator at a high speed then he's dead.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@haveahappyday
Too bad Touma can't even hurt him with his punches no more.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@whereismyname
Touma beat him twice.

What makes you think he won't do it again?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Illusionz
Actually, he did.
Three times.
First he was firing metal poles at Touma, and the kicked up gravel from the poles hit Touma like a metal crate.
Then Accel threw an metal crate at Touma
Then he detonated all the powder and shit that spilled out of the boxcar Don't quote me on that.
Then after all of that didn't work, Accel jumped straight at him, and Touma clocked him right in the jaw. Accel kept on trying, and it didn't work at all. Eventually he was getting pretty beat up. Then he did the plasma thing, and Touma broke again. Frogface to the rescue, and Misaka network saves the day. Don't quote me on that I haven't read that volume in a long time.
On another note, how the hell did Touma survive that whole bout with Izzard? Those dragons must be downright frightening levels of BTFO conveniently packed in a single fist to defeat somebody who effectively had full control of everything inside the building.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@lostmypassword
twice
I haven't read the LNs, why aren't these two bros yet? they're the same person with different cliches.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@AwesomeTucker
The entire point was that Izzard was fucking scared as shit and so his imagination went out of control and thus also his power.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Raving_Cute
Because Accelerator is an edgy faggot, i'm pretty sure Touma would stop beating the shit out of him if Accelerator ever stopped being Edgy. BUT HE FUCKING DOESN'T.

So he gets served.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Raving_Cute
The second time Accelerator was on an insanity rampage and not actually trying to beat him, but just blindly lashing out at anything that moved. The third time Accelerator lost on purpose to try and get Academy City to give up on trying to kill Touma.

They aren't friends because Accelerator thinks if he gets close to anyone they'll be attacked by the city's darkness so he wants to keep his circle filled with people already acquainted with that darkness and near him so he can save them from it.

Methshot
Methshot

@AwesomeTucker
Then after all of that didn't work
Touma was dead on his feet at that point. If Accelerator had made a single additional ranged attack Touma would have been down for the count. His final punch had zero strength in it and only took Accelerator out because Accel launched himself at Touma like a retard

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Snarelure
Is that why Accel is so high on the Morality Meter?

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Raving_Cute
They are bros. Accelerator already feels indebted to Touma for changing his worldview and Touma has worked with Accelerator multiple times. In the 3rd time they fought, Accelerator threw the fight to Touma on purpose. The context behind that is that Academy City sends all of the Level 5s against Touma to stop him and Accelerator is the first one to reach him. He throws the fight to Touma in hopes that he'll make other people reconsider going after him because "O hey, he just defeated Accelerator."

Accelerator says he'll only protect those that are in the contacts list on his phone
Accelerator and Touma traded numbers in NT2
Yfw

viagrandad
viagrandad

@lostmypassword
Because if Touma's punches can't even hurt the guy, what else can he do?

Inb4 he whips out dragons

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Why do y'all suck Touma's dick?

Anyway accelerator should have went to sleep after the first punch to be honest.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@viagrandad
9993
Welp you were close.

He'll just punch harder

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@hairygrape
Funny thing is Izzard shot Touma a few times with a gun and could've killed him if he didn't get cocky and try to humiliate Touma.

takes2long
takes2long

@TalkBomber
Taunting his opponent was exactly in line with Accelerator's character at that point.

Methshot
Methshot

@AwesomeTucker
'cause he's based as fuck and punches everyone

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Stupidasole
because acelerator is dumb as shit, goes hand to hand combat, instead shooting him with a normal gun.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Boy_vs_Girl
More like didn't get dumbed down to give touma a chance.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@askme
Still doesn't change the fact that all he had to do was stand on a shipping container and throw shit at touma till he died instead of trying to nuke the world with plasma.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Lunatick
He'll just punch harder

Maybe if the piece of shit would stop doing dumb shit with his harem and train instead.

Methshot
Methshot

@AwesomeTucker
Obligatory "that picture" response.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Methshot
Well I was going to post it

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Flameblow
normal gun
implying

Touma spent an entire book moving under the handicap of being shot repeatedly, including by lethal rounds. Even with these wounds, compounded by Biribiri reopening them by shocking him, he still managed to punch a bitch and fight with Thor until he switched from Lightning God to Almighty.

But just remember.

Kamijou Touma is a normal high school boy you can find anywhere. He can be defeated by a normal magician.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Flameblow
because acelerator is dumb as shit

Tfw he's suppose to be one of the most intelligent characters in the series

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Methshot
HE THINKS HIS MATH HOMEWORK IS MORE OF A FUCKING THREAT

cracks me up everytiem

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Methshot
Index
Adorable

Spamalot
Spamalot

@TreeEater
Touma's feats put him on superhuman level all the way down.

Dunno why people insist in acting like he's normal

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@GoogleCat
Well his whole thing with not killing Touma easily was to show him how powerless he truly was and how Izzard was the only one who could save Index. It's not so much dumbed down as it is egotistic and it was in line with his character at that point.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@AwesomeTucker
Seriously all Accelerator had to do was fight from range and when he did Touma dodged literally everything like it was nothing.
writers
He did fight him again in Russia, at range and still lost to Touma, that time he was totally out of it though so he wasn't thinking clearly.

Touma has 3 advantages against everyone who's stronger than him
1. Precognition.
2.Image Breaker
3.Underdog mentality

The third time he fought Accelerator he was wrecked though.

TechHater
TechHater

@BunnyJinx
1. Precognition.

Wait what? He can see into the future?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@TechHater
spend THAT much time soaked in the AIM/mana fields of espers and sorcerers throwing fireballs and who knows what else and you might pick up on a few things

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@TechHater
How else can you see a man catch lightings with his hand?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@TechHater
It's about fighting.

That's the reason he has hypersonic reaction speed when fighting(at least mach 23), not because he's THAT fast.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@TechHater
subcontiously, almost instinctively. It was never properly exposed but only mentioned in the LN some times, currently he has died more than any main character in shounen manga history in one volume, and has enough experience and PTSD to know how to survive some of the strongest beings around, he always needs help to win though

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@TechHater
He dodged Index laser that blew a satellite in the fucking space.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@whereismyname
There's a rock for that

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Stupidasole
thats why

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