Eva BDs (omedetou edition)

DeathDog
DeathDog

父に、ありがとう
母に、さようなら
そして、すべての子供達に
おめでとう

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likme
likme

Where are the full releasessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@DeathDog
edition
Stop.

King_Martha
King_Martha

Misato wanting to fuck Shini is canon

farquit
farquit

@likme
September 7th was and still is my guess although it's starting to look like it's going to take longer

askme
askme

@Carnalpleasure
Congratulations.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@farquit
Reminder that Anno's idea of an ideal male was a gay fuckboi

WebTool
WebTool

/r/ing stitches.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

someday i'll visit those rocks

TechHater
TechHater

Are you watching "regular" EoE or the Revival version?

idontknow
idontknow

new background for anons everywhere

@TechHater
Regular, I'll watch revival after this

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Since this is encoding general, how do Coalgirls manage to bloat up their 720p BD releases to 1 gig when another group puts out a 500meg encode of the same ep (BD too) when I can't even tell the difference between them watching them side by side? What's their secret? And it isn't all FLAC, I'm already not counting the audio tracks.

Techpill
Techpill

@TechHater
He's watching regular because otherwise we'd have got loads of screens from death first.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@idontknow
Got it. Thank you.

@Techpill
Well, he could have just skipped Death.

takes2long
takes2long

Escape from Asukatown, now on CNN

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Shit shinji get a napkin, the mayo from your subway sub is getting everywhere.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@ZeroReborn
Where's the lie?

TechHater
TechHater

@Spazyfool
Skipping best Rei smile
Skipping HD Leliel

Booteefool
Booteefool

@lostmypassword
Tenshi is retarded and does CRF 13 for everything, regardless of the video.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@TechHater
I actually sincerely like Death (revival version), but after a marathon it could really be a chore.

Firespawn
Firespawn

Still waiting on the snail mail, first thing I'm gonna watch in 1080p is dance like you wanna win.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@PackManBrainlure
tfw no one will encode Death and Rebirth because its "just a recap ep"

idontknow
idontknow

@Firespawn
An excellent choice.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Firespawn
How do you stand what the series degenerates into if you like such fun eps?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@New_Cliche
So I guess we won't be seeing ep 15 in hd then

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@New_Cliche
I don't actually care for D&R, but if no competent encoder will do Death(true)^2 I'll be really fucking sad.

Firespawn
Firespawn

Bonus audio extras: 5.1 channel surround version original soundtrack (22 tracks selected by Hideaki Anno)

What kind of Eva OST music does Anno like?

StonedTime
StonedTime

still 6.71%

TechHater
TechHater

@StrangeWizard
People will be encoding revival, which is Death(true)^2 and EoE in a single film.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@lostmypassword
It's possible to enjoy the series as a whole while still having the lighthearted episodes as your favorite.

likme
likme

@lostmypassword
The series takes place on a ruined Earth, I guess it is expected everything won't be fun.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@TechHater
If that Death is True^2, does that imply the regular Death is false?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Fried_Sushi
I'm a hardcore pessimist. Is that why I mostly like the later eps?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@TechHater
Not really.
Most EoE encodes came from revival, but releaser always split Death(true)^2 and EoE, and I can't say I disagree with them.
Even some international editions of the Revival has the two movies in different discs, the separation is still tangible.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@TechHater
There's Death, which came with Rebirth and has stuff that would later go in the directors cut episodes, Death(True) which aired on WOWOW, which had some edits and cuts out some of the stuff that went in the directors cut episodes.
And Death(true)^2 which is the final edit of Death(true) fixing some further issues.

Bidwell
Bidwell

Holy fuck, post limit.

/a/thread/130183701#p130193299
They're not realistic because, they're not fucking real.
Funny how the other guy who was also defending the idea like you claims the opposite; The characters of eva are extremely realistic, and as a matter of fact I agree with him, not you.

Inmate
Inmate

@Fried_Sushi
It could be, but I'm not a Dr. so who knows.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Musunde Hiraite: First ever full-size compilation of musical tracks that appeared on Episode 26 "Magokoro o, kimi ni," based on raw recording

What is this? Did ep26 have a lot of music that was never on any OST?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

/a/thread/130183701#p130193472
calling your conspiracy theory that is nonexistent in Japan anything but bullshit
Ok.
The only thing that I'm wrong is believing I would gain anything from talking to the mentally ill Reifag; as if he'll see logic and rational thought after all these years of crying over his waifu.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@King_Martha
No proof was presented.

likme
likme

@Bidwell
@AwesomeTucker
Please don't bring this bullshit in here, I was quite enjoying it when we just talked about evangelion blu-rays and moments in the show having a reasonably chill time.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

I was to busy arguing about Misato, what was that other parallel rant of the Kaworufag about Kaworu not being a bad character all about?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

There's nothing to discuss.
Screencap user is gone for now.
Torrents are still in progress.
What do.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Sharpcharm
Huh, I missed this when reading a list of the contents,
I can't remember in all honesty if the music wasn't on any of the other OSTs but it's probably right, this sounds like a nice surprise

w8t4u
w8t4u

jpg since png is too large

also how the fuck did he get behind you dude, secure your entrances.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Stark_Naked
Not involved in that but Kaoru is a very shallow char as one should expect from a one ep wonder. He isn't developed or flawed enough.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Evil_kitten
Screencap user is gone for now
But he's not.
He's onto EoE now.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Stark_Naked
Reifag calling Kaworu retarded for being deceived, but everyone else who was deceived in the show is clearly intelligent in every way possible.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Evil_kitten
Screencap user is screencapping EoE in this thread?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@cum2soon
Hopefully it finds its way onto Herr Internets in easily dled mp3 form

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Flameblow
Sorry bro I'm dead, tell my waifu I love her

Methshot
Methshot

@Sharpcharm
He isn't developed or flawed enough.
More so than Maya, Hyuga, and Aoba, but no one ever calls them shallow despite their 100x amount of more screentime than him.

People just try to aggressively shit on Kaworu because of his popularity and don't to the same for the other minor characters who are even more 'shallow' than him.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Gigastrength
Subway jokes as a 14 yo get masturbated upon

JunkTop
JunkTop

Rei: Empty
Kaworu: Full

Rei: Broken
Kaworu: Complete

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@cum2soon
Can I fuck your waifu in your place from now on?

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Sharpcharm
@AwesomeTucker

Huh.
The whole point of Kaworu's character was simply to represent the Fraternal love figure on the Oedipus Complex. The Fraternal love Shinji could never had and had to kill to face reality: That he has to build his own happiness in the world.

There is not much more point to Kaworu's character than that. I think he was more intelligent than the average Kids, but nothing exceptional, nothing that Rei couldn´t have been, after all his is the perfect counter-balance to Rei, a equivalent to her.

Just my 2 cents to the discussion.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Methshot
More so than Maya, Hyuga, and Aoba, but no one ever calls them shallow despite their 100x amount of more screentime than him.
People generally just ignore them because it's obvious they're meant to be side characters. Kaworu is essentially an antagonist as one of the angels and the only one who is a "real character" which leads to more criticism since people have higher standards for characters in an antagonistic role.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Lunatick
The whole point of Kaworu's character
The whole point of Kaworu's character according to Anno was to be the ideal Shinji and have Shinji experience what it feels like to love and be loved.
According to the drafts, this would be executed by Kaworu being to Shinji what Kaji was to Misato; with both of their deaths and all.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Playboyize
I actually think that Maya is a more interesting character than Kaworu.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Lunatick
There is not much more point to Kaworu's character than that. I think he was more intelligent than the average Kids, but nothing exceptional, nothing that Rei couldn´t have been
Kaworu is well adjusted and extroverted. Rei is introverted. Rei could never have been like him.

askme
askme

@BunnyJinx
implying any of us can fuck our beloveds
There's this thing called a dimensional barrier.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Playboyize
Kaworu is essentially an antagonist as one of the angels and the only one who is a "real character" which leads to more criticism since people have higher standards for characters in an antagonistic role.
Both of those things are wrong.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Boy_vs_Girl
Thats because you like lesbians Don't we all

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

I hate myself

5mileys
5mileys

@Playboyize
He is an angel, just as much as Ramiel or Arael or Arismael.
You'd have to call them shallow and start criticizing them under the same standards as well then.
Kaworu comes under more harsh criticism because he affects the main character the most.
And yet these same people ignore the shallowness of Yui but have no problem with Gendo's attachment to her.

Anno only likes to write minor characters as love interests. See Gunbuster.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Garbage Can Lid
Yes, you are actually confirming what I'm saying. Both Kaji and Kaworu are archetypal of psychanalyst theories, Elektrika complex and Oedipus Complex.

Kaworu represents the Fraternal Love of the father that has to be killed in order for the young to become an adult.
Kaji represents the same thing through the female version of Elektrika complex, although Ideally he should've been older, but Misato clearly states that she fell in love with a men equal to her father in episode 25, so that just confirm its.

The symbolism is prety obvious, although Kaji were giver secondary roles in the show apart from being an allegory to that complex, Kaworu's secondary roles were pretty shallow, tough,

girlDog
girlDog

@BinaryMan
but you can love yourself

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@lostmypassword
Angel in Eva
Not an antagonist
k bra

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@MPmaster
Kaworu is well adjusted
No. I'm probably the biggest Kaworufag on this board and this is just wrong.
He's suicidal and has absolutely no self-worth.
Stop with this meme.

@Boy_vs_Girl
Which is fine.
It's your personal preference.
It just doesn't coincide with the majority of the audience.
Nothing wrong with that.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@BinaryMan
I think you're a pretty alright dude

Also I'm switching to .jpg almost all the png I save are too large

TechHater
TechHater

@Spazyfool
Kaji were giver secondary roles in the show apart from being an allegory to that complex, Kaworu's secondary roles were pretty shallow, tough,

Why is Kaworu more widely discussed than Kaji, then?

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Sharpcharm
pottery

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@BinaryMan
I may hate you too.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@haveahappyday
She's so sweet, she only gets angry to be forced to do harm to others. I love sweet girls :3

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@SomethingNew
An antagonist implies a force opposing the protagonist, and its pretty difficult to say that Kaworu is opposing Shinji in any way.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@LuckyDusty
Where do you think we are?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@WebTool
Why the fuck did they build everything in retarded symbolic shapes? This is a dump. This is literally just a fucking dump. A hole would have done just fine.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@TurtleCat
Also I'm switching to .jpg

girlDog
girlDog

@Stark_Naked
@Lunatick
The Kaworufag is this guy: @AwesomeTucker
and he's butthurt about his fantasy Kaworu not being consistent with the anime Kaworu.

I wasn't part of the original discussion in the beginning at first but I wanted to make it clear that Kaworu does things in the anime that more or less proves lack of intelligence and ability on his part. This upsets the Kaworufag because he wants to believe Kaworu is flawless.

The point being that Kaworu is informed by SEELE and later is shown to not know what they just informed him of. He wasn't being deceived, the kaworufag is doing damage control by putting the blame on others rather than Kaworu.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@5mileys
If it doewsn't talk it's not a character. One other angel talks...sort of

Emberfire
Emberfire

@TechHater
Because he had more impact on the audience than Kaji.
Being a qt shota fuccboi also helps.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@PackManBrainlure
He's suicidal and has absolutely no self-worth.
source?

And please no tame lines like "you're not the only one who's hurting"

RumChicken
RumChicken

@TechHater
Because Kaji isn´t controversial.
Kaji isn´t controversial because he isn´t a shallow gay character.

Simple really, why even ask?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Boy_vs_Girl
Eh, maybe it has something to do with sealing away the power of the failed Evangelion. Who knows.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@TurtleCat
can someone explain why these don't have the black bars?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Spamalot
1080p screens of a film scan are going to be fucking huge in PNG.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@happy_sad
Penpen isn't a character?

farquit
farquit

@Spazyfool
Watch dat ep24 mech fight

cum2soon
cum2soon

@MPmaster
Rei could being given more time, if Rei didn't die for instance then her development would eventually lead her to a point of confrontation.
It's not as simple as saying extrovert/introvert.

In the end they're different characters, where Rei is a more developed one whilst Kaworu is more of a story device.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@TurtleCat
Upload somewhere else one of those larger png, I want to try something.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@girlDog
The point being that Kaworu is informed by SEELE and later is shown to not know what they just informed him of. He wasn't being deceived, the kaworufag is doing damage control by putting the blame on others rather than Kaworu.

Err, That argument isn´t very good to be the sole basis to prove Kaworu is dumb, but I don´t even care.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Harmless_Venom
correct

DeathDog
DeathDog

@ZeroReborn
It's EoE, so it's 16:9.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@ZeroReborn
why would they?

FastChef
FastChef

@Spamalot
Pssh, nothing personal kid

@ZeroReborn
Because these where shot in 16X9

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@BlogWobbles
Uh, episode 24?
Does Kaworu saying life and death are equal to him not mean anything to you?
What about Kaworu saying he was born to meet Shinji only after knowing him for an hour?

And this isn't even bringing up the fact that he's a cutter in the drafts.

And how else would you explain that picture of Kaworu, "you're not the only one who's hurting", if that doesn't say it?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@AwesomeTucker
mentally ill Kaworufag that got BTFO last thread is back
oh boy

viagrandad
viagrandad

@ZeroReborn
It's called movie.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@cum2soon
if Rei didn't die for instance then her development would eventually lead her to a point of confrontation.
That happened in EoE though, when she rejected Gendo for Shinji. But the thing is, that isn't a confrontation to make her a normal happy person. Rei cannot be a normal happy person. It's too late.

It's not as simple as saying extrovert/introvert.
Why do you hate psychology?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Emberfire
@RumChicken
Kaworu isn't a shota. Also, nips love shallow shit.

Methshot
Methshot

@haveahappyday
3.89 MB

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@RumChicken
Maya is a shallow gay character, but she isn't controversial or talked about.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Burnblaze
Cutest crush on eva:
[ ] Maya towards Ritsuko
[ ] Hikari towards Touji

FastChef
FastChef

@Burnblaze
And I also love Minami. She is the sweetest girl in animes IMHO.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@happy_sad
@BlogWobbles
That's stupid, man. I guess there are no characters in silent films.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Bidwell

http://a.uguu.se/iyleze_00001.mpls_snapshot_00.16.45_%5B2015.08.29_18.28.45%5D.png

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Methshot
/g/

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@BlogWobbles
Rude.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@RavySnake
Err, That argument isn´t very good to be the sole basis to prove Kaworu is dumb, but I don´t even care.
It's an excellent basis, since failure to absorb knowledge when given to you in a presentable manner does indicate stupidity.

There is more of course, but that's a simple one. Another would be that after having failed to do what he sets out to, he makes the mistake of assuming he has to die when at that moment, it makes no logical sense. It's an unintelligent choice that will lead to suffering for both parties.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

% BDMV torr?

likme
likme

@Boy_vs_Girl
7.05

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@DeathDog
edition
cancer don't even try to hide it

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Boy_vs_Girl
probably like 7%

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Stark_Naked
Does Kaworu saying life and death are equal to him not mean anything to you?
That's because his existence is completely different from Shinji's. The destruction of Kaworu's physical body does not mean the end of his existence, as evidenced in EoE.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Poker_Star
Also, nips love shallow shit.
Is that why they love Evangelion so much?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@TurtleCat
Are you really butthurt and want me to state the obvious reason for that or are you just playing stupid?

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Stark_Naked
Uh, episode 24?
Talking specific lines and such. I watched the same ep24 you did.

Does Kaworu saying life and death are equal to him not mean anything to you?
Sounds like philosophical BS

What about Kaworu saying he was born to meet Shinji only after knowing him for an hour?
Pick up line

And this isn't even bringing up the fact that he's a cutter in the drafts.
Now that'd work, problem is, there's no indication of that in the real series.

And how else would you explain that picture of Kaworu, "you're not the only one who's hurting", if that doesn't say it?

The line is too tame to indicate some kind of deep inner dysfunction. Normal, well adjusted people are hurt emotionally all the time, but that doesn't make them fundamentally flawed people.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@PurpleCharger
People don't love Evangelion, they love waifus and Kaworu. That's why it's cancer.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Sharpcharm
This, we were doing so well last night, can we please not make this a general. We can make another thread once the BDMVs are downloaded, because these threads are 90% shitposting now.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Methshot
I'm just taking screenshots as I watch, I'm not going to take the time to edit them.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@JunkTop
The talking is done through inter-titles. Stop looking for silly outs.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@lostmypassword
That happened in EoE though, when she rejected Gendo for Shinji. But the thing is, that isn't a confrontation to make her a normal happy person. Rei cannot be a normal happy person. It's too late.

I don't think it happened there at all, and that makes me think we're considering different things. I was considering something more well-adjusted and direct, on equal terms. Rei's rejection of Gendo happens for a multitude of reasons, and isn't her purely bringing emotions out or investing herself in relationships with others.

So on that end, I agree that it's not enough to make her a "normal person", that train actually sailed when she was born as clones aren't really normal people. They're not worse, but not normal - can be just as functioning if not better, however.

Why do you hate psychology?
Why do you? Dividing a complex individual into extrovert/introvert is basically an attack on psychology and all the progress it has made since it was first taken seriously as a field.

Booteefool
Booteefool

Someone from Evageeks said that the stereo mix from the broadcast boxset is different from the stereo mix from the bluray (the broadcast stereo mix include sound effects cut from the bluray stereo mix)
Can anyone here confirm this?

5mileys
5mileys

@w8t4u
They're discussion on the series. How the fuck is that shitposting?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@lostmypassword
not having it done automatically for you

Emberfire
Emberfire

@DeathDog
Then what is your excuse for the original airing of the episode where Kaworu says the same thing but EoE was nowhere in conceivable site as going to be a thing?

@viagrandad
What's the point of even arguing with you when every piece of evidence you shoot down with shallow purple prose like >hurr philosophical BS or >hurr just a pick up line clearly doesn't mean anything deeper than that

Perhaps the reason you think Kaworu is so shallow is because you refuse to dig deeper or acknowledge anything beyond the surface level or his character, much like you do with any character that isn't Rei.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@w8t4u
I like talking about Eva, we should have an Eva board.

Since we don´t, fuck you.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Need_TLC
Why do you? Dividing a complex individual into extrovert/introvert is basically an attack on psychology and all the progress it has made since it was first taken seriously as a field.
But psychology does divide complex individuals into either ex/int, whatever their other complex traits. It isn't describing a person in one word but it does mean that Rei can never generally be like Kaworu

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@TurtleCat
This.
Even 2ch has an Eva board, why don't we?

farquit
farquit

@w8t4u
Go to your "acceptable" threads and fuck off.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Stark_Naked
Does Kaworu saying life and death are equal to him not mean anything to you?
It means he's not very intelligent or considerate of other people. It means he's egoistic or extremely uncaring of others.

What about Kaworu saying he was born to meet Shinji only after knowing him for an hour?
A cheap pickup-artist line. Who says that, really? Something so extremely flattering and most likely insincere, even if he meant it you'd have to realize that this guy you're talking to is probably not very trustworthy.

I'm with the other guy. Your kaworu doesn't exist, your doujin-kaworu is literally not the kaworu in NGE.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@5mileys
@TurtleCat

Sure is quality in here

@Need_TLC
@Emberfire

Literally only ad hominem, this isn't discussion, it's shit flinging. I'm all for threads once the BDs are out, but this thread is no longer about the BDs so there is no reason for it to be up continuosly. Much better to have infrequent quality threads than a constant thread filled with shitposting.

we've now come full circle to meta-shitposting, so I will stop after this, I just don't want to see Eva become as bad as Naruto

Techpill
Techpill

@New_Cliche
I don't know what you use for your screenshots but it's shit.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

friendly reminder it is pronounced

ee-vohn-jelly-en

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Emberfire
Enough already, Kaworufag. I'm not in this discussion but this is getting pretty shitty.

Kaworu is an interesting character (although completely homo) but he is far from deep as the other main characters.

Shinji, Rei, Asuka, Misato Ritsuko, Gendou, and even Fuyutsuki, Yui and Naoko are more well developed than Kaworu, Yui doesn´t even have the same amount of screen time. Deal with that.

FastChef
FastChef

@Stupidasole
The distinction exists but not in a way which excludes methods of acting out or capability for change. Rei won't be like Kaworu (which is a good thing), but that does not mean Rei is permanently introverted.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Emberfire
What's the point of even arguing with you when every piece of evidence you shoot down with shallow purple prose like hurr philosophical BS or hurr just a pick up line clearly doesn't mean anything deeper than that

I dunno but that was my reaction to those lines when he said them :^)

Perhaps the reason you think Kaworu is so shallow is because you refuse to dig deeper or acknowledge anything beyond the surface level or his character,

The problem is there isn't enough time there to get more than inferences rather than hard evidence. Well and stuff like the Anno lines where he's supposed to be an "ideal male," which to me automatically means a generic stereotype.

much like you do with any character that isn't Rei.

I think you have me confused with a Reifag from the past thread. Rei is only third best girl, not even including side characters

5mileys
5mileys

@Techpill
What do you use?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Carnalpleasure
You americans can´t say the "Jé" sound, you say dje, with is stupid.

And is jéli ÔN not ÊN.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@TurtleCat
Yui has more screentime than Kaworu and she's far more shallow than him.
Naoko is even more shallow than the both of them.

No one is comparing Kaworu to the MCs, we're comparing Kaworu to the side characters.
Because, he's, y'know, A SIDE CHARACTER.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@TurtleCat
Yui and Naoko are more well developed than Kaworu

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@FastChef
but that does not mean Rei is permanently introverted.
Pretty sure introversion or extroversion is set before age 14 which Rei is

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Gigastrength
At least try to make sense.
The BDs are out.

Inmate
Inmate

@TurtleCat
He can't. That's why he attacks every other character.

He's unable to admit he's only in this thread because he likes fictional homosexual relationships, and he has to defend his shallow existence by defending Kaworu. He doesn't understand that his attempts, which are characterized as the best effort a Kaworufag can make only highlights how shallow Kaworu actually is because he can only rely on falsities and spinoffs to defend the character.

idontknow
idontknow

@Techpill
cool want to give me the settings to use to get that filesize directly from MPC-HC

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@viagrandad
The BDs are out.
Could've fooled me ;_;

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Carnalpleasure
Actually, it's pronounced E-Van-Ja-Lon

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@LuckyDusty
No one is comparing Kaworu to the MCs, we're comparing Kaworu to the side characters.

Ritsuko > Kaworu
Yui > Kaworu
Kaji > Kaworu

All side characters, all less shallower than Kaworu. Bullshit about Yui being more shallow than Kaworu, people write essays on her motives and even 20 year later there is debate about it.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@viagrandad
Hmm, let me just grab a torrent OH WAIT ITS ONLY AT 7 FUCKING PERCENT.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@LuckyDusty
mfw i actually heard someone say it like this

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@LuckyDusty
she's far more shallow than him.
Nah, no she's not but I don´t feel like arguing with you, you use too subjective and tangent arguments to keep a pointless discussion, So that's ok if you feel like that. Just let it go.

These stupid fights about your prered characters and those frequent stupid fights between Rei vs Asuka is the only down side of Eva thread imo, you guys should really stop it.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@idontknow
Not the guy you're responding to but I just have a script auto compress anything new in my screenshot folder

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@LuckyDusty
E-Van-Jellyon master race reporting in

Evilember
Evilember

Jesus the shiposting is strong in here.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Evilember
the colors look better here

@takes2long
is a really deep red. why are they different?

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Evilember
If Asuka posted on image boards you know she'd be a shitposter. I can just tell.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@5mileys
@idontknow
mpv with compression=9 and trimage (with a script).
Standalone mpv is still better than whatever MPC-HC does. Can't it be configured? I don't really know much about MPC-HC.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@takes2long
This looks like REvival.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Nude_Bikergirl
The one with the sharper lines but different contrast is Revival of Evangelion instead of End of Evangelion

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Spamalot
I wish I could shitpost alongside her.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@LuckyDusty

file deleted

Are you trying to embed shit again user?

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Harmless_Venom
Technically she's around 10 at most, but you know what, I'll agree with you that Rei is considering the circumstances, wired to be introverted. It seems likely although there is a possibility to change that, although unnecessary and unlikely.

The idea is that introversion isn't a hindrance for Rei to be confrontational or upfront about her feelings, and an introvert that's capable of that can do it with more care and thought than the generic extrovert can, and with more honesty.

The question at start was a misleading one because Kaworu is not well-adjusted, but possibly extroverted.

What is true and what the anime shows, is that Rei is capable of being more outgoing and confrontational, and she does over the course of the series find more happiness in different things, even relationships.

The road towards happiness for Rei is extremely difficult not because of her personality, but the circumstances.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@lostmypassword
yeah, It can

TreeEater
TreeEater

@lostmypassword
Standalone mpv is still better than whatever MPC-HC does.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@TreeEater
"No."

farquit
farquit

@JunkTop
@StonedTime
Scenes and dialogue aren't just added because lolsorandum.
The whole Eva team comes to a decision on what the characters should say and what should be shown.

They chose Kaworu saying he was born to meet Shinji; had it been only for the use of a pick-up line, anything else could have been done.
A pick-up line isn't even necessary at that point, Shinji's already into him from the moment he meets him on that rock.

@New_Cliche
people write essays on her motives and even 20 year later there is debate about it.
People do literally the same thing ten-fold with Kaworu.
Even so much as implying Yui has more depth than Kaworu is hilarious.
Why did Yui fall in love with Gendo? Why did Gendo care for her?
Her significance in the show is this relationship and it isn't even fleshed out.
She's a plot device in every sense of the word, and yet Kaworu gets flack but she doesn't? Hmm..
And yet Kaworu and Shinji's relationship is, and these questions can be answered.
I'll leave you hear with this, because I hate shitting up threads with textwalls as much as any other sane user: if your theory has never once been supported or mentioned amongst the Japanese audience, staff, seiyuu, whateverthefuck, that says something in itself. It says there is bias here.
For Kaworu to be as popular as he is, to rank above every single other character in the hundreds of shows that aired in the 90s as the #2nd place behind Shinji speaks for me.
If Kaworu was really as shallow and had no depth as you claimed, no one would rank him above the millions of other characters from other shows that have had 100s of episodes of development.
No one would consider him of such worthy praise that he would start a whole slew of Kaworu expies in other Anime.
No one would remember him as one of the most impactful characters in the show despite showing up the least.

Now I'm going to shut up and wait for those BD torrents like every other non-autistic person in this thread.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@cum2soon
The road towards happiness for Rei is extremely difficult not because of her personality, but the circumstances.
If she had a different kind of personality she could have ran away from Gendo and all that and gone to live somewhere else

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@haveahappyday
Many of us are actually down for a serious discussion. But this Kaworufag in particular isn't willing to act like a grownup.
He's just here to defend Kaworu from the harsh reality of the characters lacking substance.

The Kaworu fan's life concerns more their own fan fiction than the series, whilst for other fans they have an entire series to look at when it comes to substance. Kaworu has none and so Kaworufags make their own, which is doomed to contrast with NGE and the rest of the fans.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Spamalot
She'd probably post on /int/ and /sp/

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Inmate
@TurtleCat
What exactly is he saying that's so terribly incorrect and fujoshi-like?
He didn't say anything about Kaworu and Shinji's relationship, he was just trying to prove that Kaworu wasn't as well-adjusted as he seems.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@farquit
Look at all this delusional Kaworufaggotry.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

I avoided all the threads. Did you morons figure out the encoding thing?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@lostmypassword
I'll keep that in mind for the future, I've Never really liked the interface for MPV

RIP Greg and Chuck

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@SniperGod
Holy shit a wave is coming.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

not e-vang-gelly-yon

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@farquit
Scenes and dialogue aren't just added because lolsorandum.
In some cases, they actually are, this also goes for visual motifs which some of the NGE writers claim were added frivolously.

However, that is beyond the point, because regardless of intent the scene in itself is "lolsorandum" as you called it, or at the very least lacking in depth.

So whatever you think they intended for the line to be (which is ultimately your own fantasy) isn't' relevant to what the line was and where it was in the series.

You only seem concerned with defending that Shinji loves Kaworu and vice versa.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@New_Cliche
We figured Xvid was the way to go

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Fried_Sushi
interface for MPV
It doesn't really have one.
Anyway, if you're on Windows, don't use it there.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@New_Cliche
To be FAIR, Kaworu is less Shallow than Aoba, Kensuke Touji and Hikari, Hyuga, MALE NERV OPERATOR A, MALE NERV OPERATOR B, FEMALE MALE OPERATOR, AUSTRIAN SEELE MAN, FRENCH SEELE MAN, AMERICAN SEELE MAN, CHINA SEELE MAN, Jet Alone Spokesmen, Russian Naval Commander, Russian Naval Liutenant Commander, Helicopter Pilot A,

Now, could you really just stop provoking Kaworufag? it's really reducing the quality of the thread

Evilember
Evilember

@farquit
When you take into account authorial manipulation, for me, this is the reasoning for those lines:

Kaworu: Death=life to me line:
Anno: Let's have him say some faux deep thing so you get the feeling he's a philosophical and enigmatic character.

Kaworu: I was born to meet you Shinji line
Anno: Shinji's a pussy who'd never make a sexual advance so we need Kaworu to say something vaguely romantic to him to set up a romantic tension between these two and convey this to the audience.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Supergrass
What, Fuck no .rm files are the future.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@lostmypassword
Tell me more about this female male operator.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Methnerd
I can just imagine her acting like Germany is the shit all the time and putting down other nations

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Raving_Cute
Thanks for the laugh user.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Oh and for the bread guys

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@viagrandad
It's not laughing matter, hide yo' Eva's m8.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@King_Martha
Now someone's going to post the panel, good fucking going.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@farquit
I'm not reading that pile of bullshit reationalization and wishfullthinking.
Kaworu is jut a fucking allegory of Oedipus Complex and an stereotypal "proverbial-talker". He was made to make Shinji keel him and feel bad, NOTHING FUCKING MORE. Deal with it.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

pls no bully plot-deviceworu
you'll make shinji cry

massdebater
massdebater

@JunkTop
I'm not reading that
Well that just says it all.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@w8t4u
If she had a different kind of personality she could have ran away from Gendo and all that and gone to live somewhere else
What makes you think that?

She couldn't have ran away because as both logic and demonstration dictates, it's impossible. Consider first the situation:

Rei is an artificially made human consisting of Angel DNA and is for all intents and purposes, a brainwashed Lilith in a human body.
There is literally no way whatsoever Gendo or the organization named SEELE will let her go. Even if she runs, she'll be tracked down.

Then take the example of Shinji, when he ran away NERV followed him and tracked him down. When he was "allowed" to leave, he was according to Misato going to be restricted heavily with his movements by NERV. Shinji is relatively unimportant to NERV compared to Rei.

Then even if Rei wants to, she knows that there's nowhere else for her to live. There is even some doubt that she'll be able to live without NERV's medical facility, although this is never proven or part of the canon.

Even with a different kind of personality, Rei would not escape. The powers of "The Man" are too great, even Fuyutsuki, Yui and Gendo live under that fear as episode 21 reveals. If they rebel, they know that they'll be killed.

Even if she tried to run away despite all this, all they'd do was bring her back in again and brainwash her into not having that personality any more.

It's a really, really tough situation and running away isn't the best option, because she'd be letting humanity down by not fighting.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Evilember
actually shooting down valid interpretations and oversimplifying them because you don't like them
In EVA of all shows

These are the worst kinds of people.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Need_TLC
Yes?

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Need_TLC
Great post.

askme
askme

@Need_TLC
Yeah I need windows for muh photoshop and bluray support.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@SniperGod
see @farquit
etc...
What exactly is he saying that's so terribly incorrect and fujoshi-like?
In the last thread there was a lot of emphasis made and eventually, he started calling thread posters homophobes.

He's fujoshi-like and incorrect because he disregards canon and replaces it with fanon. This Kaworufag and others like him is cancer and is the bane of any serious discussion.

He's not trying to say he's not well-adjusted either, he's defending Kaworu by making him into some sort of martyr that suffered, so you'll feel sorry. Too bad he just made up all that nonsense in his head to defend the character.

Evilember
Evilember

@GoogleCat
Welcome to the western fanbase in regards to Kaworu Nagisa since the early 2000s
I blame Evageeks.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Kaworu is just Anno's version of this character

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

I think one of the problems with Kaoru is that the series materials make him seem more "main" than he is which leads to people having greater expectations for his development than someone like Maya or Aoba or the like. You see him usually on many box covers, promo posters and such with the rest of the mains. You will only rarely see Maya or someone like that and only if the image is very wide ranging in the characters it shows or if it's something like a manga cover series that is going through a ton of the cast one by one

Maybe originally he was intended to be around for 3 eps or so and that would've given him a lot more development, but I bet they botched it and didn't have enough time for him to get the full development he needed.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@TalkBomber
Don't you mean this character?

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Fried_Sushi
The real Shinji would give Kaworu the middle finger if he knew how shitty he was, and wasn't so desperate for love.
Which is why kaworufags need to see shinji suffer and every other character destroyed so he'll come to kaworu as the last option.

Inmate
Inmate

@TalkBomber
But that's wrong

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@TalkBomber
@Need_TLC
Or perhaps this character?

DeathDog
DeathDog

@askme
You can play blu-ray on Linux. On mpv for example. Menu support was removed recently in mpv though (didn't really work well).

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@massdebater
In his defense, your post was nothing more than bullshit. This is coming from someone who read it and is every single day disappointed in how low Kaworufags manage to sink.

This guy: @Evilember
is completely, absolutely right in every way.

girlDog
girlDog

@GoogleCat
your post
It wasn't even me.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@PackManBrainlure
Look at how quickly Gendo is willing to discard Shinji in ep1 when he doesn't want to pilot. I doubt once Shinji and Asuka showed up, Gendo would have cared if she refused to pilot.

I do agree that they'd try to track her down again when she was the only pilot they had.

I'm also not saying running away is the best option but a more normal personality would lead someone to run away from the situation she is in, whether she thought she could stay away at all. I guess t he main issue is, because she was never given a chance to develop normally, there's no way she would be able to gain the personality that would lead to her running away like that.

Techpill
Techpill

guys, i'm gonna test something. i want to see if i can continue seeding from the nas independent from my computer. bear with me for a bit, the transfers may stop for a bit

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Spamalot
The real Shinji that Anno wrote ≠ the Shinji in your head

Snarelure
Snarelure

@takes2long
Colors aside, this looks fucking amazing. Post more Revival.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@GoogleCat
You know, his interpretation is much more valid than yours.

His is based on a more factual context than your idealized masturbatory interpretation. Regardless of who's right, the lines and scenes in themselves have no substance on Kaworu's part, which makes the character shallow and two-dimensional.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@GoogleCat
user, Anno has admitted he used the Christian symbolism because it looked cool and he chose the name Evangelion not only for the meanings behind it but also because "it sounded complicated." Anno is not one to have any illusions about whether he's doing something to be complex or whether he is being shallow. I merely look for where my cynicism tells me he's being shallow and point it out.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Techpill
192.168.1.173:5000

Really Gonna Just Give Your IP Out Like That? Pfft.... Too Easy... Chump.. :)

LOIC Point Right At You

RavySnake
RavySnake

@happy_sad
That's a router IP, secretfrog

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@SniperWish
By that logic every single character is shallow.
You're disregarding every piece of dialogue and action as hurr let's present a character this certain way

@Illusionz
Anno has admitted he used the Christian symbolism because it looked cool
[citation needed]

Things like Ode to Joy being hummed by Kaworu and Kaworu about to open the door at the exact verse that signs the angel stands before god shows that Anno and co. are not so flippant about what they put into the show.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@DeathDog
I'll look into it later

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Carnalpleasure
Why is Kaworu so smug?

Inmate
Inmate

@Bidwell
Look at how quickly Gendo is willing to discard Shinji in ep1 when he doesn't want to pilot. I doubt once Shinji and Asuka showed up, Gendo would have cared if she refused to pilot.

He would, because like it or not, he needs them. It poses a problem to him and the scenario he's trying to enact. He does care because he had Shinji and the others brought there in the first place, no doubt begrudgingly in the case of Shinji.

I do agree that they'd try to track her down again when she was the only pilot they had.
Rei isn't just a pilot. You're forgetting that she's the human embodiment of Lilith and therefore crucial to Gendo's plans. She's part of a black project that NERV does not want to disclose publicly. This is why Gendo sends Ritsuko instead of Rei to SEELE among other reasons.

I'm also not saying running away is the best option but a more normal personality would lead someone to run away from the situation she is in
It's hard to say, because even with a normal personality and the assumption that the person is as intelligent as Rei, they'd know that running away is a shitty option. They'd be visibly upset and prone to outbursts, but running away sounds like a really bad option if they know what Rei knows.

I agree Rei has suffered psychological trauma, but with or without an extroverted personality the course of action would be the same, unless you add irrationality and stupidity into the mix.

It's also a point to make that a person with a normal personality would under these circumstances soon have an abnormal personality.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Dreamworx
Oh sorry it was Assistant Director Tsurumaki

"There are a lot of giant robot shows in Japan, and we did want our story to have a religious theme to help distinguish us. Because Christianity is an uncommon religion in Japan we thought it would be mysterious. None of the staff who worked on Eva are Christians. There is no actual Christian meaning to the show, we just thought the visual symbols of Christianity look cool. If we had known the show would get distributed in the US and Europe we might have rethought that choice"

http://wiki.evageeks.org/Theory_and_Analysis:List_of_Common_Misconceptions#NGE_is_religious_propaganda

Also it doesn't really take much to read a translation of Ode to Joy, user

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Spamalot
Uh, my dad works at Anno and he said that Shinji loves to take Kaworu's big godcock up his slutty boipussy.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Dreamworx
[citation needed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh0qbJAQhgk

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Techpill
not using uBlock Origin

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Dreamworx
By that logic every single character is shallow.
You're disregarding every piece of dialogue and action as hurr let's present a character this certain way
That doesn't make sense, because the other major characters have backgrounds, characterization and development that all support what they're saying.

Why is it acceptable that Rei is philosophical and self-questioning, and that is a part of the character that has meaning for instance?
Because we have shown Rei as a deeply affected character considering her own existence, without anyone giving her the answers or treating her like a human being. The seeds for these questions are answered, there's a deeper need in Rei to understand others as well as herself. Rei is therefore shown as reflected but still realistically ignorant of the answers until she can figure them out. She doesn't pretend to know everything.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@SniperWish
Not my interpretation. I'm not the guy who posted that.

factual
How?

the lines and scenes in themselves have no substance on Kaworu's part
Based on what?
We both know damn well that Eva doesn't just give information and explanations in an upfront way. I see nothing wrong with that anon's interpretation as long as he has some evidence to back it up.

Disregarding it and disparaging it the way @Evilember
did makes you even less credible.

idontknow
idontknow

@VisualMaster
Someone ban this idiot already.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Inmate
Rei isn't just a pilot. You're forgetting that she's the human embodiment of Lilith and therefore crucial to Gendo's plans.
No idea how I forgot that, yeah, he does need her or at least the soul within her to "do instrumentality"

He would, because like it or not, he needs them. It poses a problem to him and the scenario he's trying to enact. He does care because he had Shinji and the others brought there in the first place, no doubt begrudgingly in the case of Shinji.

I dunno I sort of got the feeling that he wouldn't have forced Shinji in the end. Maybe the "ok get Rei to pilot it" was a bluff to force Shinji to get in Eva01 because otherwise an injured girl would have to, but it didn't 'feel' like it to me.

It's also a point to make that a person with a normal personality would under these circumstances soon have an abnormal personality.

Most likely yeah, although maybe not soon depending on their age. I'm not sure 100% on the scientific basis for personality malleability but the personality gets less and less malleable over time. Still, it is a deranged situation so the person would begin exhibiting signs of heavy stress and would begin to change.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@VisualMaster
Don't even bother user.
He's been pulling this shit for three years, sad thing is he pulls the same rhetoric against Asukafags too.
Nothing you say will get through to him, just let 3.0+1.0 take its course.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@VisualMaster
Disregarding it and disparaging it the way @Evilember
(You) did makes you even less credible.

If there isn't DEEP and MEANINGFUL reason for it, you're discrediting yourself by pointing that out! :)

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Dreamworx
The line matching up is more than likely entirely coincidental, Anno's style of audiovisial directing is more than likely the cause. There is a change in the pace of the music and the chorus makes for a good fit with the scene.

Also, it's more a fan myth that it matches as well as it does. The cherub stehts vor the proverbial gott that is lilith when he's still engaging EVA02, and so the line is spoken far before he's actually in front of Lilith.

Have some best girl.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Deadlyinx
Didn't the line come up while he was opening the final locked door?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

I don't think Kommie plans to release EoE

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Lunatick
why's there 10

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Flameblow
I dunno I sort of got the feeling that he wouldn't have forced Shinji in the end. Maybe the "ok get Rei to pilot it" was a bluff to force Shinji to get in Eva01 because otherwise an injured girl would have to, but it didn't 'feel' like it to me.
He would sacrifice anyone for Yui, and since Rei is the means to accomplish that he would sacrifice anyone for Rei. He'll probably would feel particularly bad aboud doing it to shinji because I think he does love him but he totally would anyway.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Sharpcharm
The one in the middle is Unit-01.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Sharpcharm
There are 9. Get your eyes checked.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@hairygrape
You didn't point out anything though. Just added a baseless explanation and trivialization of why those lines were put in. There really is no reason to take you seriously.

girlDog
girlDog

@VisualMaster
Based on what?
Based on the scene. Each scene has information with it that either ties in with other scenes, or don't in the case of Kaworu. Because all you're given a line without the context, the line itself has no meaning except it's superficial meaning, which is at that point to make Kaworu seem endearing quickly in the same way that a pickup-line is.

I see nothing wrong with that anon's interpretation as long as he has some evidence to back it up.
Which he doesn't have.

We both know damn well that Eva doesn't just give information and explanations in an upfront way.
On the contrary, it does. In terms of information, it's extremely dense - episodes like 21 are formed as being complete infodumps, and you have direct insight into the characters minds.
The common thread is that it's only the unimportant stuff, the things that don't matter which doesn't get elaborated on heavily.

You're making the mistake of fanwanking in what you want there, and acting upset when it's pointed out that you've made mistakes here and there.

farquit
farquit

@SomethingNew
is the bread meant to symbolize something?

Methnerd
Methnerd

@farquit
yea, my dick

Evilember
Evilember

@JunkTop
But remember even if Rei gets killed by an angel, she will just come back, so he doesn't really have to have any restraint. If she couldn't die without his plans regarding Yui being ruined, he probably wouldn't be sending her out as a pilot at all because of that risk.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@viagrandad
It's the last repetition of the line, but the line is mentioned before that point when EVA02 is being engaged.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@farquit
That she would be a nice wife.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Kaworu is arguably the most important character of the Evangelion saga.
Evangelion is a story about Kaworu.

I can't wait for Evangelion 3.0 + 1.0: The Return of Kaworu!

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Boy_vs_Girl
dump
Because they've stated time and time again that the symbols are just there to look cool. The more I watch this show, the more I roll my eyes each time.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Nojokur
Reminder that the colorblind can't see Daat

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Evilember
you're right, sorry.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Dreamworx
I still think the most important character is the FEMALE MALE OPERATOR.
But that is just your opinion and I respect that.

eGremlin
eGremlin

i have a crush on gendo

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Soft_member
Except that is literally why I think Anno put those lines in and it is very plausible if you're cynical about Anno's attempt at philosophy and deeper meaning, which I have become after all his comments like "the name Evangelion sounds complicated so that's one of the reasons why I used it." Maybe if he'd hide his shallowness a bit better we'd all be better off and we could all keep believing Eva is more than he intended.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@CouchChiller
D V D
V
D

farquit
farquit

@eGremlin
R U a gorl?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@eGremlin
He's bad for you, there's a cute lesbian you could be dating right now.

TechHater
TechHater

@Flameblow
I dunno I sort of got the feeling that he wouldn't have forced Shinji in the end. Maybe the "ok get Rei to pilot it" was a bluff to force Shinji to get in Eva01 because otherwise an injured girl would have to, but it didn't 'feel' like it to me.
That could very well have been the case, although the preferable option is that Shinji pilots it since Rei is injured.

Most likely yeah, although maybe not soon depending on their age. I'm not sure 100% on the scientific basis for personality malleability but the personality gets less and less malleable over time. Still, it is a deranged situation so the person would begin exhibiting signs of heavy stress and would begin to change.
Put a normal situation in Rei's situation, and they'd freak, and probably break. Unless they're hardened or are exceptionally resilient, the isolation and realization that they have no control over their lives would be maddening.

@VisualMaster
If it makes any sense, let's take this post here: @PackManBrainlure
and see what it does different from what our Kaworufag friend does.

We can establish that Rei is unlikely to escape NERV because we have a situation that's well enough described to make that the case (NERV/Gendo needing Rei to stay put) as well as a precedence for it in Shinji, where he is tracked down by NERV's Men in Black.
You've got substance here emerging from the canon in a way that can be proven or defended.

The Kaworu fan wants to defend Kaworu by merely assuming as a default that his lines must have meaning, which is the same as not defending it at all. It's just stubbornly demanding to be placated by everyone else.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Is spt still lurking? I need the exact size of the hole stash please
The 420 gb are from the private chinese tracker

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Supergrass
Heres your DVD, covered in butter like you wanted it.

likme
likme

@Dreamworx
this is unironically what kaworufags believe

Kaworufags will be known as the horror example of what happens when you pander too much to a fanbase in basic, shallow manner.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@farquit
Shinji's baloney pony

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@haveahappyday
I don't think with visuals like that Sephirotic will ever be able to be fully satisfied with his encode. The situation is just too bad regarding EoE. No one can encode it in such a way to make it look right. The conditions are just improper. Maybe in 10 years or something it will get a better remaster

idontknow
idontknow

@girlDog
Which he doesn't have
He had the picture and brought up the drafts (but to be fair that's probably irrelevant to the actual production). But if we also consider Kaworu's entire role in episode 24 and his willingness to let himself be killed, saying that Kaworu has no regard for himself isn't that far of a stretch. I think his dialogue are the clues we were given instead of more subtle background information.
Each scene has information with it that either ties in with other scenes
Which probably couldn't have happened since he has such a small role.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@farquit
Kill yourself.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@kizzmybutt
It's called satire

SniperGod
SniperGod

@haveahappyday
Beautiful

eGremlin
eGremlin

@PurpleCharger
Yeah the artificial grain is intense

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@PurpleCharger
I decided to make compromises on the noisier scenes, problem is, there will certain be people that won´t agree and will dislike the compromises.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@PackManBrainlure

@kizzmybutt

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Booteefool
Why is it green?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@PurpleCharger
The grain is there to make the scene look extra fake.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@idontknow
clues, clues, clues
drafts, drafts, drafts
In other words, nothing really solid or substantial. If the characters is 100% implications, it's time to accept that there isn't really anything of substance here at all.

Which probably couldn't have happened since he has such a small role.
Which undermines the Kaworufag's point. Kaworu doesn't have a large role. (increasing it only makes the story worse as every spinoff proves)
Kaworu isn't a deep or substanceful character.

That's the reality of it, and just because fictional homosexual idealized relationships are unpopular doesn't mean they've got unhindered access to insert whatever fantasy they want into the canon.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@BinaryMan
Hopefully you actually cut down the grain since IMO there's too much. It just looks like "fake grain" which is what it is but it's kind of like early to mid 90s CG or something. Just doesn't look good. The tech was probably not there for them to do fake grain at the time of EoE.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@JunkTop
He's just applying a heavy dose of the subtle piss filter that Anno and Khara put over the BDs to make them look like the old release. Which is pretty shitty.
Some DVDs just have shit transfers, that doesn't mean the BD shouldn't correct that. Like Lodoss did.

Soft_member
Soft_member

guys, my power supply is failing so my computer won't start up 80% of the time. i'm gonna restart to see if things continue to run on their own from my nas. excuse the delay i'll be back

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Soft_member
NOOOOOOOO

TreeEater
TreeEater

@CodeBuns
He was talking to 10-year-olds in that video. It'd be silly to assume he'd dissect an entirely different language there.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@whereismyname
too much grain
Looks like it was 2DEEP4U since that's the fucking point.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

How do I color-correct Eva BDMVs on the fly?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@TreeEater
He shouldn't have just made up an untruth if he didn't really choose it because "it sounds complex."

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Better pen pen

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@PurpleCharger
@Soft_member

Also, we stand behind you. How's your friend doing to which you brought the copies of Disc 1? Would like to get you a beer for all the trouble

farquit
farquit

@BlogWobbles
Upload the png of this one somewhere else.

Inmate
Inmate

@JunkTop
Everything in moderation, bro. You want a NATURAL level of grain for a real cel, not fake grain added by the truckload by Anno and his team

Techpill
Techpill

@whereismyname
I played around a lot with the grain, in one test-encode I actually managed to remove almost all of it on the close up parts, had to use a ridiculous 50.000 thSAD thersold, maybe it'd be easier to just downscale it to about 360p. If anyone is curios I can show how that scene looks like without noise later.

But in the end I decided not to remove all the noise, I removed the thinest one, the big chunks of artificial noise are most present, what I had to do was actually set a encoding zone to limit the amount of bitrate that scene would suck up from the rest of encode. had to set up with a pretty high CRF. I won´t say it for now because people would freak out and start bashing me. Let's wait and until it gets ready.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Techpill
had to set up with a pretty high CRF. I won´t say it for now because people would freak out and start bashing me.
Can't be worse than Tenshi

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Sharpcharm
Lodoss BD looks fucking great

farquit
farquit

@PurpleCharger
MPC HC color filter, I guess mpv also has something like that (or any other decent player)

5mileys
5mileys

@Inmate
The grain was there to drive home the point of the artificiality of instrumentality.
That's why Rei and Asuka appear as dolls. That's why there are studio lights set around the sandbox. Anno is throwing it in your face that THIS SHIT IS FAKE! LOOK AT ALL THIS FAKE SHIT! in such a way that it's still clearly grainy on old CRT TVs.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Boy_vs_Girl
He told me he's "a leecher, not a seeder" and that it's against his code or something to seed. It's just me then, I don't know anyone else

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Lunatick
35mm? Or more?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Inmate
The fake grain is added to give it a sort of dreamlike effect, like something David Lynch would do.
I personally feel this would have been better achieved by shooting these scenes onto some kind of 8mm stock and then transferring this onto the 35mm master rather than pissing about with experimental digital effects as a toy but I'm not Anno.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@farquit
http://a.uguu.se/proler_00001.mpls_snapshot_01.04.39_%5B2015.08.29_19.56.57%5D.png

Nojokur
Nojokur

@5mileys
Too heavy handed, Anno-san. We get it.

5mileys
5mileys

@PackManBrainlure
it's against his code or something to seed
surely you assassinated said friend

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Snarelure
Lodoss was shot on very good 35mm stock.

FastChef
FastChef

@Nojokur
Not yet. He needed to show you grainy pictures of yourselves in the movie theater to drive home the point that he's talking to you directly.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@PackManBrainlure
your friend is a shit.

5mileys
5mileys

@PackManBrainlure
The fuckity fuck, what a shitty code, I wish I could help you out man.
@Snarelure
it's on 35mm and unlike EoE wasn't photographed by drunk monkeys so it's consistently awesome, like the Bebop master.

As far as I know there's no anime on 70mm, if there is I'd love to see it, I can't imagine how it'd look

hairygrape
hairygrape

@FastChef
Problem is, Anno failed. He tried to make a movie to tell otaku to stop being otaku and yet they only became otaku for his anti-otaku work. Maybe he "saved" like 1 in 1000 otaku who saw Eva but not enough.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@VisualMaster
I personally feel this would have been better achieved by shooting these scenes onto some kind of 8mm stock
I tottally agree, in the end the dream effect of that noise was pretty much questionable. Anno is a great director, animator and char developer, but I dare to question his photography skills.

Techpill
Techpill

@FastChef
classic Anno, bringing anvils to a knife fight

DeathDog
DeathDog

@FastChef
pictures of yourselves in the movie theater
Seeing EoE in a movie theater would actually be pretty fucking neat.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@5mileys
As far as I know there's no anime on 70mm, if there is I'd love to see it, I can't imagine how it'd look
Not even ghibli?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@AwesomeTucker
No. Disney did however.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@PackManBrainlure
Please tell your friend to kill himself on my behalf.

askme
askme

@Ignoramus
Who is this?

massdebater
massdebater

@Ignoramus
Keel needed moar development plox

Emberburn
Emberburn

@AwesomeTucker
Nah. There's no reason to really shoot animation in 70mm unless you're going to project it on an enormous screen.

Evilember
Evilember

@askme
@massdebater
I'm surprised you didn't know.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@PackManBrainlure
That's unfortunate. Can I order you some pizza?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@askme
Keel
We where discussing the fact that he's an android earlier.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Emberburn
Wouldn't it have less perceivable grain at 1080p if it was on 70mm?

Soft_member
Soft_member

@AwesomeTucker
Nah still just 35, 35 provides a fucking intense resolution.

Like there's not that many films that have been done on 70mm in the first place as it's really expensive(35mm already looks really good, 70mm film is double the size, measure a 7cm square and then imagine thousands of them).
I'm having a look now

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

WTF and I watching .jpg

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@AwesomeTucker
by a quick search apparently Final Yamato was

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Spazyfool
Cyborg. Not android. Android would have been completely artificial and had nothing to tang.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Ignoramus
I never understood this part, was Selee just a bunch of androids??

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@RavySnake
Transhumanism.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@RavySnake
Likely only Keel was a cyborg. The other guys didn't look as old

girlDog
girlDog

@RavySnake
They're old ass fucks with android replacement parts.

farquit
farquit

@Emberfire
Is it weird that I really want to be a cyborg?
I love machines and being part machine sounds fantastic.

Inmate
Inmate

@Ignoramus
Thank you.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@PackManBrainlure
Anno's deepest thoughts

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Burnblaze
I'd be curious to see that at 1080p

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Fuzzy_Logic
I was going to order some myself but I had some soup earlier that messed my stomach up
@RavySnake
they were really old guys that had their bodies augmented so that they could live long enough to be turned into goo and assimilated into the ocean of human consciousnesses. presumably if they died before then, they wouldn't obtain that immortality which is why they were so impatient

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Ignoramus
Thank you as well.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@hairygrape
Seems pretty empty in there

Nojokur
Nojokur

@MPmaster
If we take into account that an increase detail can be perceived up to just below 4K on 35mm and 70mm would have a resolution topping out around or above 10k the grain would be imperceivable at 1080p.
It looks fucking gorgeous.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@PackManBrainlure
You have to take a screenshot of "her" hands with holes that happen to look exactly like labia.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Burnblaze
they were really old guys that had their bodies augmented so that they could live long enough to be turned into goo and assimilated into the ocean of human consciousnesses
when did they mention that? It's been years since I last watched evangelion but I don't remember any mention of that info.

massdebater
massdebater

Also 1080p Nekobro since someone mentioned him a while ago.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@happy_sad
It's never mentioned.
EOE is the first place it shows up.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@MPmaster
Yes, and it would have less perceivable grain even at 2k or 4k resolutions.
The thing is, like @Soft_member
is saying, the film stock is HUGE and fucking expensive. Over double the price of 35mm because it has to be specially made.
Of course, going back to the resolution question, the idea of 1080p and greater was never really on peoples' minds when making animation during the film age.
Yes, Japan had developed 720p TVs back in the 70s, but there was no infrastructure to carry that bandwidth until after everyone had switched over to digital mastering. And we all know what a mess so many early 2000s shows are, being digitally mastered in 480p and not having any proper way to rerelease them in HD because there's no film stock to scan.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@JunkTop
The scene with the hundrets of Rei's swimming around would fit much better. Oh and request on ss from that

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@PackManBrainlure

What other anime are as bizarre as EoE?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@massdebater
She's so cute.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@farquit
No.
Just wait a few years and you'll get there. There are already people with ocular and aural implants that can sent visual and auditory impulses directly into their brains making them true digital cyborgs. Crude, yes, but all first steps are crude.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Burnblaze
Let me guess: the 70mm ver of Final Yamato is not available on Bluray? There was also a 35mm ver too.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Yeeeeah, fuck you too buddy

RavySnake
RavySnake

@PurpleCharger
Cat soup
Angel's Egg

There are a bunch of lists online.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

so, once this is over and done with and everyone has their evangelion in 1080p, what left is there to live for? semi srs

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@happy_sad
Just an educated guess from the information available, seeing as he's obsessed with transcending their human bodies shown to have recived extensive enhancements but is show to have aged so the cyborg/wandering jew thing doesn't hold up.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@PurpleCharger
Angel's Egg.
Or on a more fabulous note, Utena.
http://a.pomf.cat/mkswiu.webm

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Deadlyinx
I'm so jealous of these nerds.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@viagrandad
I've read about both of those, there were some pretty great threads on lainchan

RavySnake
RavySnake

@viagrandad
My legs are fine.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Deadlyinx
Mmm... Those are only little Asian dicks.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Deadlyinx
me on the right

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@LuckyDusty
4k?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@RavySnake
We can fix that.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@LuckyDusty
what left is there to live for?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@LuckyDusty
The same age of rewatches after the release of EoE till the next anniversary.
Mabe some more Rebuild or Games, some extra merch would also be nice.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@LuckyDusty
I've got tons of old anime to watch so i'm good for another 20 years at least

and I want a Rei lap pillow

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@LuckyDusty
I dunno m8

I dunno

hairygrape
hairygrape

@CouchChiller
Shinji looks like a girl here

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@LuckyDusty
4.0 or currently 3.0+1.0

This too @TalkBomber
Maybe one day I can eclipse Grant.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@CouchChiller
This, I haven't seen LotGH yet and I've got it downloaded. I am super pumped, it's gonna be so good.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@CodeBuns
proscrastination is been pretty good at keeping me alive so that will be my reason for 2016

DeathDog
DeathDog

@LuckyDusty
Eva isn't the only great animu series still awaiting BD treatment is it? Plus there's always the potential for more Eva info to leak or more rewatches for new theories. Or........New anime? No idea if anyone in this thread even likes newer anime.

Or just listening to great songs over again.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@5mileys
anno please go

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Soft_member
here,
Akira was shot on 70mm(because of course it fucking was), I just remembered, no idea how that one slipped my mind, it has a wider aspect ratio that was cropped down for the 35mm release

Also apparantly Final Yamato was too

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@LuckyDusty
3.0 + 1.0 of course.
Christ knows how Anno will conclude this shit.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@FastChef
Oh, what could have been.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Spazyfool
I don't really like Akira but I'd watch it in 1080p just to see what 70mm looks like at that res

Techpill
Techpill

@DeathDog
Nah man, we are living in the age of great Blu Reis of old anime

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Spazyfool
4k Akira will happen in your lifetime

hnnnnnNNNNNNGGGGG

WebTool
WebTool

@StrangeWizard
bro, it's symbolism don't you get it

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Techpill
That's got to be my favourite screenshot so far.

girlDog
girlDog

@lostmypassword
Even people who like Akira will readily admit the movie is a pretty shit adaptation of the source material. It's still a remarkable achievement in terms of animation.

idontknow
idontknow

@Spazyfool
70mm

isn't 35mm 4k? what does that make akira? fucking 8k?

Techpill
Techpill

@DeathDog
Or........New anime?

I hope. We're due for another great series, or at least a movie. All the old studios are dead (RIP) so there is a sort of power vacuum. Miyazaki isn't directing films, etc.

I just want something good to come out.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@WebTool
SYMBOLISM BRAH

FastChef
FastChef

@StrangeWizard
more uncensored vaginas than it's doujins

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Raving_Cute
yfw episode 16 4k upscale

Nojokur
Nojokur

@girlDog
This, it's a great movie to get drunk and watch on Friday nights with some pizza. You don't really need to think about it, it's got a decent plot, and it looks fucking beautiful.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@StrangeWizard
Based usaka delivers again.

farquit
farquit

@StonedTime
BRO, DON'T YOU GET IT??

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Techpill
I'm still waiting eagerly for the Garupan movie.

One of my top favorite animes of all time.

Techpill
Techpill

@Techpill
Eva-01 has to be the size of a city in that shot.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Techpill
Un Shinji Andalou

cum2soon
cum2soon

@cum2soon
I mean, I like the anime that's coming out, I'm not one of the pretentious fags who hates fun and simple can't handle light entertainment, but I do really want something on the level of Ghost in the Shell or Akira.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Do you guys think had Sheeky Forums existed at the time Eva aired it would've been considered a "trainwreck" series rather than a genius work or perhaps both (I don't necessarily think series Sheeky Forums deems a trainwreck are always bad to watch)

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@girlDog
yeah Akira is fucking terrible compared to the manga, but the animation is god like, as well as the soundtrack.
they tried their best to squeeze all the material they could in.

@cum2soon
I'll check it out, i'm waiting on a BD for dream hunter rem

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@lostmypassword
It's scanned from the 35mm on the BluRay I own, I'll do some digging

@idontknow
A scan of the 70mm provided it's not been shat on would be about 10k or more.
I saw Lawrence of Arabia digitally at the BFI Imax and they said they'd remastered it at 4K for releasing it on Blu Ray but they could easily go up to 12, it's bonkers to think that movie's going to look fucking excellent for many decades more.

Discussing this does make me a little bit sad that despite us being lucky enough for BD remastered anime, we can't build a time machine and infinite money and go back and have everything shot and stored perfectly on 70mm

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@cum2soon
Ghost in the Shell is Awsome, it's actually my second favourite anime after Eva. I'm particular fan of the SAC series. but after arise I've lost hope to ever see something as good as the SAC series so soon.

girlDog
girlDog

@SniperWish
I don't really think so, it's too serious to really be a trainwreck. Guilty Crown, Geass, Ange, those were trainwrecks.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@SniperWish
Sheeky Forums will only shit on a show after it has aired.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@cum2soon
But user, those were hyped more for their animation and style than their depth. Sure GitS has some vague philosophy behind it and supposedly provokes some thought about cybernetics, but a decent amount of TV anime have been deeper

Nojokur
Nojokur

@happy_sad
I don't even like Sheeky Forums, I'm just here to talk about Eva.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Spazyfool
we can't build a time machine and infinite money and go back and have everything shot and stored perfectly on 70mm
You'd also have to invent a way to make that 70mm film cheap.
Remember, the 24fps standard for Hollywood came about in the 30s as the slowest speed they could run the cameras at without distorting the audio.
"Footage" literally refers to the amount of feet measuring the length of the film stock.
It's all a money game for the producers.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Nojokur
Why? Sheeky Forums is love.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@SniperWish
I think it would have been considered dull at first slowly people would have started to mock it during the action arc, and then would have started to get hype until 24/25 rolled around and Sheeky Forums would have lost it's collective shit.

it would have been one hell of a train ride

Emberfire
Emberfire

@girlDog
Guilty Crown felt like it did everything with a totally straight face to me so I'm not sure I can agree with that one. Geass obviously was more silly and flamboyant.

Also I think more of it would have to do with people going apeshit because of 25-26 and circle jerking constantly about how much of a BS "troll" they are.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Emberfire
I disagree. the SAC series discussions about collective phenomena and the origin of conscious, the political and investigation plot is excellent, I simply can´t thought of a similar better Anime.
Mushishi is also excellent, but is too different to compare with GITS SAC>

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@SniperWish
It would have been very divisive, just like it is now.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@happy_sad
Seriously, this. Everyone loved Parasyte till the minute it stopped airing. KLK as well.

Inmate
Inmate

@Carnalpleasure
Too much pretentious manchild aspies.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Boy_vs_Girl
Actually giving a shit about the symbolism
It doesn't even have any bearing on the rest of the show it looks cool though

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Fuzzy_Logic
He's talking about the GitS movie, not SAC I presume.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Raving_Cute
Arise was horrifying to me just because of how many animation fuck ups or scenes that just look awful are in there. The original GitS movie had none of that. I don't recall SAC being that bad animation-wise either although I think there were a few 'off' parts.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Lunatick
Completely wrong, everyone outside the massive threads said both of those were shit since episode three.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

well that's that, I'm gonna go and make dinner and hit the sack I have to go to work early tomorrow.

@Lunatick
I just had fun enjoying the hype for KLK the show was fun but the fanbase is awful and makes it awful to try to discuss it, same goes for Madoka.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Blue-Rei looks like shit so my night is ruined.
I just want EoE I don't need omedetou

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Skullbone
@Fuzzy_Logic
Yeah, was talking about the 95 movie.

My problem with SAC was more due to filler

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Dreamworx
Asuka's hand caressing Shinji's cheek, user.
And I need a PNG of that.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

So Sheeky Forums

do you like the dub or not? better than the sub?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Dreamworx
Well, thanks for all the caps. They won't quite stave me off until my set arrives, but your work has been appreciated.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Dreamworx
Is this from revival?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@PurpleCharger
Boku no Pico.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Nojokur
same here

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Burnblaze
sorry forgot to upload it

http://a.uguu.se/rucpjy_00001.mpls_snapshot_01.26.09_%5B2015.08.29_20.38.15%5D.png

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@BunnyJinx
BD for dream hunter rem
Wait is that actually happening?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@PurpleCharger
Shinji is ok except for screaming, Gendo is better by default bc his acting was awful in japanese

Everyone else is cringe

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Lunatick
No just the regular EoE

@TurtleCat
It's just my hope, It'll never happen but an user can dream.

Soft_member
Soft_member

Rei a space colony.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@PurpleCharger
Yes, of course I like the dub.
In portuguese
much better than in english
[spoiler[american voice actors are shit
Japanese is of course, unmatched.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@LuckyDusty
implying Asuka is cringe

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Soft_member
colony drop

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@cum2soon
Waterdog please go.

WebTool
WebTool

@PurpleCharger
Dub is shit, I've seen worse but sub all the way.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@LuckyDusty
The only voice that is kinda shit is Misato. Every other voice is better in English.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@viagrandad
Good to know I'm not alone.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

So is the only place I can get the BDs the shitty mega torrent which nobody is seeding?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@LuckyDusty
One point in the dub's favor. Tiffany Grant can actually speak German compared to Yuko Miyamura.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@w8t4u
Sheeky Forums is 75% generals. Why even bother complaining about it at this point?

likme
likme

@BinaryMan
You are not welcome here, stupid ungrateful leecher.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@BinaryMan
the store?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@RavySnake
Thank you very much, user.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Soft_member
I swear in that shot LIlith's head looks more like Kaworu than Rei.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

How can Rei 1's soul be in Eva00 if Rei 1's Soul is Lilith's soul and Rei 2's and Rei 3's. All dem Lilith. Right?

w8t4u
w8t4u

@TreeEater
there will never be an Eva store
Why even live?

Skullbone
Skullbone

@likme
I'm seeding it with my gigabit connection you fucktard

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Need_TLC
Souls can Split just like they can Join. think about it.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@w8t4u
I'm sure there is in glorious nippon.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@w8t4u
there will never be an Eva store
Hownew.ru

You know, what, fuck it nevermind.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Emberfire
Souls can Split just like they can Join. think about it.
Do official materials confirm this?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Need_TLC
Lilith's soul journey:
Lilith => Rei I => Rei 2 & 00 => Rei 3
That's how the theory goes.

Techpill
Techpill

@PurpleCharger
I'm going to start a fire here.
Gendo's great, let's get that out of the way first

The dub has the potential to be great.
A lot of the voices in it are fairly good and nearing the end of the show actually manage to capture the subtly of the characters fairly well. Asuka's anger comes across better in the Dub, I really quite like Rei too.
Shinji's alright, unless he screams, which he does a lot, so that's not good

The voices for the side characters seems OK but just come across sometimes as having poor direction so you get awkward jarring readings that don't really match up well, I can't think of anyone in the show who has terrible voice, mostly just terrible readings.
Overall it's not actually that bad, not excellent, not approaching bebop levels of quality but it's generally alright and in some places is better than the Japanese. If you got the same cast and a modern dubbing process and slightly better direction it'd probably be excellent.

All of the work the dub built up to on the TV series by the end of it was then shat on by the dub of EoE which has very few positives and is mostly trash, the ADR on this is appalling and it ought to be burned.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@BinaryMan
i made the rips and am the only seeder. there's not much i can do, sorry

Evilember
Evilember

@Stupidasole
Asuka's mom's soul was split into two pieces, that much is official.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Stupidasole
That Rei's soul split? No, but it's a pretty basic conclusion that souls split in the series. I'm too sleepy to elaborate an explanation now, Think i'm going to sleep.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@JunkTop
,
can you even into English you dumb motherfucker? Who raised you? How can someone even make such a moronic mistake. You realize that there is no comma after "know", right? Are you trying to bait me or are you just supremely retarded? I genuinely cannot tell due to the fact that there are so many legitimate retards and mouthbreathers that frequent this website. Holy shit user, I really hope you're just having a giggle.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Skullbone
So AM I, dipshit.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Evilember
Is there any theories out there for why it was that both Rei00 and Kyoko's souls split but Yui's did not?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Playboyize
10/10, man, I;m dying here

cum2soon
cum2soon

@LuckyDusty
Asuka is awesome and Shinji is super awesome cause he is voiced by a male who sounds like a boy, not a japanese whore. However sub wins by default since Koyasu voices a bridge bunny, and Misato's voice is pretty good too.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@BinaryMan
Kyoko's event was a legit accident.
Yui's event was orchestrated to just look like an accident.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@hairygrape
Gendo: >tfw Keel killed your waifu

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Playboyize
wOw, LoOk, At, ThIs, NeRd,

RumChicken
RumChicken

@PackManBrainlure
Don´t apologize to that asshole!
I'd gladly pay you for a ISP upgrade for a couple of months, tough.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Deadlyinx
That guy is one of, if not the best part of EoE.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@BinaryMan
because Yui did what Yui set out to do. Naoko either suffered an accident or was sabotaged, and Unit 00 needed a syncable soul but Rei has no mother so she couldn't be orphaned.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@hairygrape
Holy fucking shitting Jesus I had a PRETTY FUCKING STRONG deja vu right now reading your post, MEIN GOT.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Deadlyinx
g-girls?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@kizzmybutt
eva threads are time loops you know

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@hairygrape
@kizzmybutt
Seriously there is some seriously strong shit happening here right now, maybe I'm becoming tang. I swear I dreamed of this a couple of months ago.

takes2long
takes2long

@King_Martha
I mean Kyoko not Naoko

idontknow
idontknow

@kizzmybutt
Very spooky! Much conspiracy!

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@kizzmybutt
Welcome to Sheeky Forums, where every post is a repost of a repost.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Boy_vs_Girl
You're dreaming it now user
It's time to wake up

Emberfire
Emberfire

@BinaryMan
Yui was a good scientist and appeared to actually have a fucking clue about what she might have to do in order to achieve her goal so she made it look like an accident.
The other contact experiment with kyoko was actually a fuck up, presumably kyoko didn't want to remain in the Eva like Yui did and they managed to get her out.

Unit 00 isn't confirmed but probably has the soul of Rei 1 in it, if you notice kyoko turned mental after her experiement then you can consider the Rei's to be missing something, like Rei 1 was clearly a lot more EDGY than Rei 2, who's really quiet and shy.
Rei 3 doesn't get much time although she does tell Gendo to do one.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Techpill
Gendo's definitely better in English.

Gendo in Japanese is completely monotone. Which is fine for most of his scenes. But when he's supposed to express emotion, like being pissed at Shinji in episode 18 or apologizing to him in EoE, there's is nothing.

Playboyize
Playboyize

By the way, if anyone is curious, this is what the denoised compressed scene of the park should probably look like, maybe a slightly worse.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ab1rsxyizkzw4md/clip2d-002.mkv?dl=0

Obviously DON´T WATCH the webbased version, click on download.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@StrangeWizard
vaginas on her hands
she users her sands to suck out their souls
Holy shit, I just got that. They're returning to the womb.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Can anyone expand the background to the left in order to make it 1920x1080, and remove that kanji and the arrow?
Some user made one with this and Rei, but I'd like Asuka only.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@idontknow
tfw 2560x1080 and can't use any screens as backgrounds

Methshot
Methshot

@Fuzzy_Logic
do you really want the kanji gone?

TreeEater
TreeEater

@BunnyJinx
Actually they are returning to the egg.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@CodeBuns
No one has ever posted this before:

Gkal blof de lioka bree del fisaom

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Fuzzy_Logic
It's time to learn how to use photoshop user, this is literally the most basic thing you can do.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Methshot
Not really that important.
If you can do it easily keeping the kanji, then so be it.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@cum2soon
ultrawide screen
1080p

Holy fuck, how can one be so nigger? I'm not even racist, but DAMN, watching eva on that screen must REALLY suck with gigantic black side barks.

I have 1440p screen here, so well, most Caps looks blury as a wall.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@DeathDog
I agree his Japanese VA is dreadful, I think even his VA in ReDeath is capable of delivering more convincing emotion.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Dreamworx
Do you guys get rid of your old screens or something? I have a screen for native 4:3 high res, a 4:3 CRT for old shows, a 1080p widescreen for normal stuff, etc.

I just never throw anything electronic-related away.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Fuzzy_Logic
Here I got nothing better to do. You really need to learn some PS basics.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Fuzzy_Logic
this is how you spot the redditor

WebTool
WebTool

@Stupidasole
Thank you.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@AwesomeTucker
As a matter of fact this post was mine.
I have a 27inches 1440p AH-IPS Dell, and a High end 19" 2048x1536p 72hz (up to 100hz) Flat CRT.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Stupidasole
Thanks for the free wallpaper fag

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Fuzzy_Logic
Easy done, will remove kanji now

massdebater
massdebater

@Playboyize
Looks fine to me encoding-wise. I just don't like Anno's decision to do it that way but that's how he did it so we're boned.

likme
likme

@Playboyize
can't even capitalize can

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@New_Cliche
should work in my speed

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@PurpleCharger
is that an ak47 kek

WebTool
WebTool

@New_Cliche
@Harmless_Venom
no color and contrast correction

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Harmless_Venom

@Stupidasole
@New_Cliche

Well shit, never mind. Oh well, I've done it now

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@PurpleCharger
This is the third time you've posted this in the last 48ish hours, mind cutting the bullshit?

5mileys
5mileys

@GoogleCat
Second time, unless someone reposted it. He asked If I had a CRT, I just said Yes with a fucking pic, problem?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@New_Cliche
@Harmless_Venom
Thank you too.

@Soft_member
I just don't know shit about image editing.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@PurpleCharger
I need to get a HD CRT.
I've got an 80s trinitron monitor which looks absolutely fantastic for anything in SD and I'm loathe to actually change it out for anything, so far I've just been downscaling BluRay content on it as I really can't be bothered to go shopping for something more recent.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@massdebater
I'm glad there are some comprehensive people around, thanks.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@5mileys
Yeah there's a problem you unsubtle fuck.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@lostmypassword
I don't need you pity thank you, that would be sad.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@PackManBrainlure
Oh. I was wondering why it said 0 seeders and I thought nobody was seeding

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Carnalpleasure
I just love my CRT, really wished they still made a small quantity for enthusiasts like myselve of bigger 16x10 crts. It's just so much more natural, IPS don´t even come close.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@farquit
A slice of life

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Booteefool
OK then fuck you

Illusionz
Illusionz

@BunnyJinx
unsubtle
Well I'm really sorry that you are such a sensible faggot

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Burnblaze
W98?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Is only disc 1 up now?

Also reposing disc 7 extras I ripped
https://mega.nz/#F!l1BmBJhL!KfLMI4mgVz1LiEbT35PdqA

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@JunkTop
thanks

Techpill
Techpill

@DeathDog
I'm assuming you learned to actually speak Japanese, how did you do it effectively enough to watch anime?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Illusionz
And I'm real sorry you keep reposting this. Acting like CRTs are lolsoretro is nauseating, to be completely honest with you.

I get there's a fetishization of "older" technology but there are lines that have to be drawn.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Stark_Naked
That pic isn´t mine, but I really wish I could buy that FW900.
Its a 2560x1600 16:10 10 bit 120hz 24" High End Late model Sony Trinitron display. A real dream.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

>>130201063
Tell me you did not just say that to me.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Gradually migrate as this thread dies
/a/thread/130201089#p130201089

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Techpill
Not him but
1. get Anki
2. get decks
3. Grind
4. Learn grammar as necessary
5. ????
6. Profit

There is a daily thread on Sheeky Forums

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Raving_Cute
I find it odd that the character auditions for Rei, Asuka, Misato, Ritsuko, and Gendo are there but Shinji's isn't.
Hopefully it's on another extra from another disc, I'm a huge Ogata fan and I hope she wasn't skipped.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@BinaryMan
You have obviously never used a high end CRT.

I don´t use this shit because of the retarded hipster retro wannabe bullshit, I kept this thing because TNs look like shit, and my high-end IPS display montion and input lag is shit.

CRT is the best of both worlds.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Techpill
go to /djt/ and read the guide

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@GoogleCat
No I didn´t it, was your imagination.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Carnalpleasure
If you were a man of your word you'd have only posted it once and not lunged at the opportunity to repost it. You don't have to rationalize your ways to me, it's more transparent than you think.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Spazyfool
why are you mocking me? I'm being serious and you just think this is a game?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Fried_Sushi
man of your word
Have I actually LIED or made some sort of promisse to only tell the world a single time that I have a CRT? Have I actually said that I took that picture in this instant? I'm attenttionwhoring somehow?
NO, so fuck you.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Lord_Tryzalot
NO
Reddit aside, you don't have to rationalize your ways to me, as I've said, only that your motives were pretty obvious. Fact of the matter being your defensiveness is testament to my point.

No need to take it so personal.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

this is going better than i expected. after disk 1 is out, should i put out the disk with revival or move on to disk 2?

girlDog
girlDog

@Sharpcharm
Revival

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Sharpcharm
I'd say go in order but I think I'll be in the minority.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Sharpcharm
I'd prefer Revival.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@LuckyDusty
@DeathDog
@SomethingNew
Gendo is better by default bc his acting was awful in japanese

What the fuck am I reading? I always thought his Japanese voice was great and he was purposely monotone because he was a cold, close off person even when he was expressing emotion.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Sharpcharm
Working on getting more people involved, once this is finished I'd say go revival then move on to disc order from there.

DeathDog
DeathDog

i rather not piss off the majority

http://strawpoll.me/5354058

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Sharpcharm
I'd prefer disc 2 and thus the rest of the series. We have a source for EoE

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@DeathDog
You could upload any disc and no one would have the right to get pissed off ;^)

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Burnblaze
Also I think he just kind of realizes he's a giant piece of shit so even when apologizing to Yui about Shinji he already knows exactly what he did and really doesn't regret it and it really only apologizing because Yui is there.

farquit
farquit

@CodeBuns
so he says sorry just for show?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@farquit
More or less. It's not as if he didn't realize what he was doing. He just didn't give a shit because he was so focused on getting Yui back. The reason Yui eats his shit is because he was never really remorseful in the first place.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Ignoramus
that's what gets you living with ghosts

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