I don't care what you think Sheeky Forums,this show is a fucking masterpiece

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

I don't care what you think Sheeky Forums,this show is a fucking masterpiece.

All urls found in this thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV31EHwtayo
https://archive.org/a/search/filename/1336778713924/
kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

k

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Nah, it's just gay shit.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Deadlyinx
A little bit of gayness hasn't killed anybody m8

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

I don't like to admit it, but this would be one of my favorite shows if not for the faggots kissing.

Call me an homophobe or anything, I don't care.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Ok.

Thanks for making this thread.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Supergrass
Who is Freddie Mercury

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

timeskips
suddenly everyone's gay
she fucks a man anywhere
it's just depressing

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

I don't care what you think Sheeky Forums,
Shinsekai Yori is generally praised on Sheeky Forums.

Although, the threads are full of shitposting for some reason

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@PurpleCharger
suddenly everyone's gay
The thing is that the gay stuff is plot relevent and was really kept to minimal

timeskips
There's nothing wrong with timeskips.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@SniperGod
a little bit != wagonload

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Anyone who stopped watching or started watching the show because of the gay scene is a fucking retarded

askme
askme

@Deadlyinx
mfw Sheeky Forums losing their shit when ep. 8 aired

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@kizzmybutt
Hey !guess what?I don't care what you think either.Great thread faggeton

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Can you not start SSY threads like this OP?It's literally a magnet for shitposters

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Sharpcharm
What about people who stopped watching it because the dull, underdeveloped characters or the pacing that had to be saved by a magical exposition unicorn to put the plot back on track.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Deadlyinx
You can always spot the retards who haven't seen it. Shinsekai Yori is total het shit.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@kizzmybutt
That's a shitty opinion you got there man

MPmaster
MPmaster

Terrible way to start a SSY thread, but whatever.

Let's discuss something else, do you think the show portrays homosexuality as something positive or negative?

I personally think it portrays homosexuality as something unnatural. Also, holy shit! the backgrounds for the final episodes are amazing.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Methnerd
No it isn't, that show was poorly paced as fuck, the only upside to it was it's world building, and even then the ending was pessimistic and unsatisfying.

Overall it wasn't complete shit but it most certainly wasn't a masterpiece.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@kizzmybutt
/u/

Inmate
Inmate

@MPmaster
!
Blogging

Go the fuck back to whatever forum you came from.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Methnerd
Nah, I just know what good writing is.

It doesn't matter if you have the deepest and most meaningful story idea in your head, if it plays out like a mess it's shit.

You twats are just easily impressed by weird, new ideas so much that you're willing to ignore shitty character writing and the fact that they devoted an entire episode to exposition so that the plot could get back on track after floating aimlessly for the first three episodes.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@MPmaster
do you think the show portrays homosexuality as something positive or negative?
They use it when it's convenient then 'turn it off' when it's not needed anymore.
Useful.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Firespawn
addendum:

The world building and premise is godly.

It's a shame that the pacing and the characters had to be so poorly thought out.

It's no master piece but by general sci-fi standards it's pretty solid.

takes2long
takes2long

@Firespawn
What do you honestly expect from Sheeky Forums? Most average /a/nons think Masaaki Yuasa is the second coming of jesus.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@w8t4u
godly

It's the same shit that's been done in almost every western take on metahumans, the only difference are the molerats and the art direction.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@takes2long
That's because he is.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

The show gets high praise for building such an eerie atmosphere. Saki was a great protagonist, she felt like Akane without being a plot device. Squealer a shit.

OST was incredible. Setting was interesting. Sufficient build-up. Pacing didn't bother me. All in all, it was total dog shit, 8/10

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@takes2long
he really is though

takes2long
takes2long

@GoogleCat
It's sci-fi buddhism, bro

That hasn't been done before.

WebTool
WebTool

@kizzmybutt
You know what's funny?These are the same arguments that i read on SSY every thread.

Anyway, the show has a few problems with its pacing and the director made a few bad decisions, not to mention that animation is shit in some episodes, however the anime has amazing world building, a really original and interesting setting, a solid and cohesive plot, great OST, it does a good job portraying ambiguity, has a thrilling and exciting story without resorting to cheap tricks to keep the attention of the viewer and it also avoids a bunch of annoying tropes that we generally see in anime.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@StrangeWizard
@Lord_Tryzalot
How?

Emberburn
Emberburn

@takes2long
What a shitty unrelated way to reply to that post. The majority of Yuasa's anime are pretty much flawless in the characterization part at least. Although I don't credit Yuasa himself for that, since they're mostly adaptations.

hairygrape
hairygrape

The thing that got me the most about SSY was the quality was all over the place. Sometimes the scenes were absolutely fantastic looking while others make you scratch your head wondering what the hell was that supposed to be.

Like @Need_TLC
the OST was god-tier.

Snarelure
Snarelure

I went into SSY expecting utopian telekinesis SoL high school shenanigans, that was my mind set.
I was unphased by the gay, mostly because of scenes like "The first 100 people to stop clapping get eviscerated" and how modern society was so far gone as to be forgotten.
By the time kids started dying off and their bones being used, I was more horrified and repulsed.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Do you think the characters' "dullness" is justified given SSY's setting?

@Need_TLC
This sums up my opinion on SSY pretty well. You just missed the worldbuilding.

5mileys
5mileys

@hairygrape
@Snarelure
probably watched the TV version

askme
askme

@Need_TLC
All in all, it was total dog shit, 8/10

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@kizzmybutt
This so much, so personally I still really liked this because of all the rat moments and world building. Solid 7 maybe 8/10.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@StonedTime
Not them, but he's probably one of the more creative directors in the biz.

Doesn't make him all that high quality, but he still has some eye-catching ideas.

@WebTool
I see the same argument FOR the show every thread. It's all about the world building and the build up, but for me, and alot of people, it's hard to give a shit about a world built with a cast of cardboard. Suspense is lost for the same reason.

Same reason why I ended up dropping psycho pass in the final few episodes.

it's different from most anime

This is a shitty argument. different isn't good. new isn't good.
Fucking Genocyber is different from most anime, doesn't make it not shit.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@5mileys
Yeah I watched it while it was airing. The threads here on Sheeky Forums then were good fun.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Snarelure
their bones being used
They never were. Rewatch the anime

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Need_TLC
Saki
not a plot device

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Illusionz
Pretty much this.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Illusionz
Fucking Genocyber is different from most anime, doesn't make it not shit.

Whoa there, lets not say things we can't take back.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@w8t4u
They were killed and their bones were used as evidence to falsely accuse another tribe but the humans saw it was bullshit anyway, you rewatch the anime.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Need_TLC
Saki was a literal cardboard cutout, this is my issue with the show, squealer is the only sympathetic character in that entire anime.

The other cast members are just uninteresting.

girlDog
girlDog

@kizzmybutt
I agree. Its a masterpiece. Its sad that people can't accept it just because theres some guys kissing.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@viagrandad
No, those were queerat bones.
Why was it forbidden to look into queerat DNA

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Inmate
Blogging
He's actually just stating his opinions and thoughts about the anime.
Which is the prime use of the board, but maybe you forgot after all your time spent shitposting.

I felt like SSY's enormous weak point were the characters, apart from Squealer. Saki didn't really have much personality (Or at least I think so), and the characters are just plot devices. Satoru's granny was a good character though, but she didn't appear much.
The OST, Direction, Setting and all that were godly.
Hearing the OST still gives me chills.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Carnalpleasure
Kiroumaru was pretty interesting too.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@kizzmybutt
/m/catalog#s=al
/r/catalog#s=eddit

farquit
farquit

@Firespawn
ignore shitty character writing
Debatable, characters were okay for the most part, with Saki having decent characterization and development, while Squealer was memorable and had presence.

Most of the other characters are okay, i like their interactions because they don't act like the typical retarded that you see in most anime, they'd normally take decisions based on logic and common sense.Same thing with their conversations and discussions, the fact that they don't act like idiots who are overly emotional about everything was really enjoyable to me, since it's so rare to see that in the medium.

devoted an entire episode to exposition so that the plot could get back on track after floating aimlessly for the first three episodes.
Nitpicking much?Yeah, they could have handled it better but it's not like a irredeemable flaw or anything, just something that could have been better

RavySnake
RavySnake

@ZeroReborn
dullness ever justified

It sabotaged any suspense the show had.

It's hard to give a shit about the cast getting killed off when you can only feel sympathetic, not empathetic, to them.

A good story makes the audience feel empathy for the main characters, so when shit hit's the fan, they personally feel threatened when the heroes are in a bad situation.

imagine that you're watching a news story about a train crash: you feel bad because people die, but you didn't personally know any of them, so it doesn't linger all that long. Now imagine someone who you've spent hours upon hours with, someone who you know better than you know yourself, was on that train you're hearing about on the news.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Deadlyinx
He
Fuck off already cancer

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Illusionz
I know that you want to insult the show but please, don't compare SSY with Psycho pass

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Carnalpleasure
squealer apologist
go away, rat

Bidwell
Bidwell

Fuck Shit Suckass Yaoi

The series was dead on Sheeky Forums until the gayshit.

Dead.

As in, threads would die in 15 replies.

Anyone who likes this garbage is cancer.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Ignoramus
They both have painfully dull characters, are incredibly dark, have weird pacing, deal with dystopias, and get a shit ton of praise here on Sheeky Forums.

I think they're pretty comparable.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Kind of annoyed me how everyone was fawning over Saki like she was some messiah chosen to lead their people with her infinite calm and ability to recover mentally from anything - when Satoru did the exact same thing; but arguably better. He didn't lose his cool and always acted rationally, only that he didn't have a Shun Ex Machina to show him the way.

farquit
farquit

@VisualMaster

The only thing that came good out of SSY is the first 4 episodes and the first ED. The rest is fucking crap stupid and a fucking trainwreck, missing out very important parts of the Light Novels and also that pyshic kid under the rugrats control? Fucking stupid... The chances of that happening is almost 1 in a million from a logic stand point.

Only retards in Sheeky Forums who think this is good is on the same level as the apes who admire Gelsdara in insight, Fuck you.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Bidwell
Not really. The threads got a decent amount of replies until it exploded into retarded shitposting about the gay that still happens today.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@ZeroReborn

What the world building in the first 3 episodes where it was a very very rare chance that 2 psychic parents fuck produces a psychic kid.

I'm sure you retards gloss over that point.

likme
likme

@Carnalpleasure
it's hard to give a shit about a world built with a cast of cardboard. Suspense is lost for the same reason.
Are you crucifying anime for the lack of good writing characters?If that's the case, half of the shows that are praised here may be qualified as shit as well

The characters weren't that bad and you're ignoring all the good points that the anime has for the sake of convenience

TechHater
TechHater

@likme
you're right

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@RavySnake
Mmm, I get your point, but I was talking more in the sense that most dystopian novels tend to have "dull" characters. Almost all dystopian protagonists are 2 dimentional, in fact, I don't think I've ever seen/read a three-dimensional character in any dystopian work.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Carnalpleasure

Not in the least. She was interesting in that she had natural human reactions to things and drew strength from within rather from outside influences, like Akane.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Sharpcharm
Don't spread lies, cancer. The series was dead on Sheeky Forums until the gayshit.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@eGremlin
PP
Gets praised on Sheeky Forums
How to identify a newfag.

It's almost universally agreed that everything that PP does, SSY does better

Firespawn
Firespawn

You won't find much disagreeing with you but Squealer what a fucking character he was, Whatever you though or thought he deserved he made this show into a fucking god send.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@farquit
Light Novels
It's a novel.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Nude_Bikergirl
Dystopian fiction is pretty bad for that reason in general.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@farquit
Light Novels
Light Novels
Kill yourself

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Lunatick

Homosexuality? bad more like the terribad animation on episode 8 done more harm than good with that fucking duck sway back and forth like a cardboard cutout ties to a string.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Sir_Gallonhead
I participated in a few of the threads and no it wasn't. Again, a decent amount of replies, nothing mind-blowing but there's nothing wrong with that.

WebTool
WebTool

@likme
Bad character writing screws the whole story.

Not a single aspect of a story, except world building, isn't effected by the personalities of the cast, and world building, alone, isn't a story.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@StrangeWizard

Bitch please, /u/ hates that show, and rightly so when it's nothing but bait and switch.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Sir_Gallonhead
Not him but who gives a shit?/a/ circlejerks about the most stupid shows when they're airing.The anime who keep having threads about them after years are the ones with actual worth

Methnerd
Methnerd

@kizzmybutt
To be honest, it was much better while we were still wondering what is the situation. The last arc was somewhat of a let-down.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@farquit
The chances of that happening is almost 1 in a million from a logic stand point.
They explained he wasn't mentally ill in any way, they just raised him to kill the shit out of humans.
They weren't controlling him, they basically sent him to the village saying "You go kill 'em all boy" and the setting made it so that kid was an unstoppable murder machine.
Now though I'd like to ask why the poison didn't trigger the death feedback ?
That would mean no poison/indirect way to kill doesn't trigger it, and then everyone wouldn't outright murder eachother but just chose sneaky ways to do it.
@Nude_Bikergirl
You're right. usually Dystopian Fiction is not written to be a good story but to tell the readers what are the ideals and thoughts of the writer.
And that results in sloppy characterization.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Bidwell
You have retards who praise psycho passes writing left and right around here.

You have to be blind not to see this shit. Anytime people point out how much of a hack Urobutchi is, you'll have five or so replies going
"b-but muh pizza pass".

Hell, even unironic "Let's love elfen lied" threads are showing up now and again.
just accept that this board has shit taste.

King_Martha
King_Martha

people are actually trying to force a psycho pass vs. shin sekai yori shitstorm

Glad I haven't paid attention to these threads since the show aired.

idontknow
idontknow

@WebTool

It wasn't bad character writing in reality more like rules were laid out in the first 4 episodes and then the rest of the series fucking ignores it for convenience sake.

Like how they had to "Actually" train to initiate the feedback that was locked in "their" mind that couldn't of happened to the psychic kid under the rugrats control.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@King_Martha
it's like "psycho pass + SSY" because they're both shitty dystopias

Nojokur
Nojokur

@kizzmybutt
liked it too.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@TurtleCat

I like how you ignored the VERY FIRST episode where Saki was gonna get killed by a cat cause she displayed no Psychic powers.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@King_Martha
How can you even compare these two shows,the only thing they have in common is the dystopian setting.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@King_Martha

Comparing 2 shit shows to each other is like saying who has the brownest poo.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@StrangeWizard
Like i said, you sound like a newfag.
PP rarely has threads, even when there's a second season a movie that aired just now, SSY manages to have more threads and it aired 3 years ago.
I never saw PP on any mosaic in 3x3 threads, while SSY shows up all the time.
I also rarely see people praising PP, it's one of the least praised of the Butcher works here.
Hell, it's rare to even see PP in recommendation charts

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@likme
half of the shows that are praised here may be qualified as shit as well
Of course, when has this been stated otherwise?

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Carnalpleasure
I hope you're pretending to be retarded.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@WebTool
I love how you ignored my posts talking about the characters.

You can keep spouting your hot opinions there though, i won't stop you

massdebater
massdebater

@kizzmybutt
I don't care what you think Sheeky Forums,this show is a fucking masterpiece.

great taste
it truly is

wish we could get more shows with same quality story telling and animation, yet "japantaste" stands against it
everyone who hates SSY on Sheeky Forums is just a Jap

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Booteefool
The town uses the cats to kill people, but I'm talking about murder here. There is next to no probability of people wanting to murder other people in the current time, but when their society was created, how did the ways to bypass death feedback get forgotten by everyone except the ED Council ?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Literally one of the best "villians" in anime.
Only Griffith and Gendo can compare.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Deadlyinx

Maria chooses Mamoru over Saki and they have a child
Satoru falls in love with Saki as soon as Shun is out of the picture and still loves her after he remembers him
Saki and Shun always loved each other

Its just gay shit

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Supergrass
It's good that you're admitting to be new

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Carnalpleasure
I've never seen PP on mosaic threads

Look whose calling who a newfag, newfag.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@massdebater
same quality story telling and animation

Skullbone
Skullbone

@King_Martha
Go away, newfag.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Skullbone
Just report and ignore, friend.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Bidwell

stay in your Nippland good sir

Soft_member
Soft_member

Shinsekai Yori is one the best anime i've ever seen.
It get really polarized reactions here on Sheeky Forums though, what's up with that?It's either people calling a masterpiece, or others saying that's irredeemable shit

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

tfw dropped it halfway through the first episode

Not impressed tbh fam.

askme
askme

@King_Martha
That guy wasn't me, but good to see you're not pretending to be retarded, that would be shamefull

@eGremlin
I responded in the most straightforward and shallow way possible; Since that's how you like your shows, it's probably the best way to talk to you.

Evilember
Evilember

@Stark_Naked
Why are you putting villains in quotes there? Are you trying to say that a mass murdering double crossing Napoleon wannabe is anything but a villain?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@kizzmybutt
Don't act like if your opinion matters you faggot, its an objective masterpiece
OBJECTIVE MASTERPIECE
did you fucking heard me?
I said SHINSEKAI YORI IS A FUCKING MASTERPIECE and you can't objectively or subjectively do anything to prove wrong my afirmation.
because its a masterpiece.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Ignoramus
I like you

@Soft_member
Because some people have seen more that twenty anime, and some people like SSY.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Skullbone
Can't refute any of my points
Says the same thing as me
Please, stop replying.This is truly embarrassing

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Evilember
poor guy only wanted to ensure the saftey of his colony

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Soft_member
No one's calling it shit except for obvious shitposts, others just brush off it's flaws with an "it's ok, it wasn't that bad" and proceed to circle jerk.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Bidwell
anyone who disagrees with me is shitposting

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@cum2soon
All they had to do was not rock the boat and no-one would get exterminated. He caused countless deaths, of both humans and rats.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@happy_sad
Why would I refute a delusion? Don't shitpost next time if you want serious replies.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@askme
I responded in the most straightforward and shallow way possible; Since that's how you like your shows, it's probably the best way to talk to you.

So you don't have any arguments, just retarded opinions?Good to know

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Emberburn
Yes, it was. You pseudo-intellectual fucktards got BTFO. Gayshit saved you, and it was sickening. /a/'s never recovered.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Soft_member
The only persons calling it shit are obvious shitposters and people that explicitly consider dystopian fiction as bad, so there's no point in discussing with them.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

I watched this and finished it in a week or so. After I realized the only feasible way for the queerats to obtain the child I was scarred for a few days. But the show was pretty good. Enjoyable.

Methshot
Methshot

@Raving_Cute
My arguments are up the thread.

If you want to actually respond to them you're welcome to

Evilember
Evilember

Someone explain the character development that Saki went through.

TechHater
TechHater

@Soft_member
Because Sheeky Forums has incredibly shit taste. Have you not figured this out yet?

Booteefool
Booteefool

@PurpleCharger
No need to lie so you could spout irrelevant buzzwords, user.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Evilember
They won't give you any, they never do.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Nojokur
Not him but you aren't a shitposter because you criticize it, you're a shitposter because you refuse to give any decent argument to your favor, you just spout the same retardation that you read someone saying in another thread, over and over again, without ever addressing the points that people are making in a decent way.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Booteefool
SSY is only for artificial fun and forced animation you pseudo-edge-lord

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Methshot
You ignored a bunch of posts, mine included

girlDog
girlDog

@Fried_Sushi
You either address what was wrong with my post, or just fuck off.Saying ''it's wrong, so i won't bother'' is some gradeschool level argument

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Evilember
Reducing it to the minimum:
kid Saki
Innocent
adult Saki
Everything but innocent

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

I knew that this was going to happen for in the moment that i saw the OP.

You don't start SSY threads like that.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@LuckyDusty
/u/ hates anything with a penis in it, it doesn't really mean anything.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@girlDog
You get what you give. Either learn some subtlety or don't shitpost at all.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Evilember
She became more sorrowful and less motivated with time, the feeling of loneliness and impotence really got to her when she became adult.

It's evident in a bunch of parts but really obvious after Maria disappears

Snarelure
Snarelure

@lostmypassword
No, they gave real bones.
Children never realized that, but queerat bones wouldn't work.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Carnalpleasure
So she became a different person after a timeskip? Amazing.

askme
askme

@Methnerd
I'm just reading
I don't have any rebuttal

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@BinaryMan
All of the arguments in favor for the show are the world building, which is great, and the buildup, which is also great, but I've said it several times, The characters make or break a show. These are the only arguments I've heard for the show ABOUT the show. everything else has been "it's better than most anime", or "it's different", neither of which say anything about the show not being bad.

How can you honestly give a shit about anything that happened in SSY when the main characters have almost nothing to them that differentiates them from each other (other than squealer). It's like how they always put masks on the dudes who are supposed to be killed by the goodguys in movies (like stormtroopers in star wars), It dehumanizes them.

Another thing, just because something is praised here on Sheeky Forums doesn't make it good and Alot of shows have better character writing than SSY, even many not so good ones.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@eGremlin
Not him but it's not only after the timeskip.You can perceive subtle changes in her characters as the years and episodes pass.

Although, the changes are more evident after the timeskips for obvious reasons

Playboyize
Playboyize

@askme
Yep, your strawman doesn't deserve one.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@ZeroReborn
See @farquit

askme
askme

@Playboyize
I don't know what a strawmen is.jpg

whereismyname
whereismyname

@askme
nice strawman

w8t4u
w8t4u

@ZeroReborn
How can you honestly give a shit about anything that happened in SSY when the main characters have almost nothing to them that differentiates them from each other (other than squealer). It's like how they always put masks on the dudes who are supposed to be killed by the goodguys in movies (like stormtroopers in star wars), It dehumanizes them.
I don't agree with you about the characters but assuming that you're right, characters aren't the only thing that makes a good show.Do you think that Lain is bad because all characters are forgettable?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Snarelure
Nothing nitpicky about pointing out that the show wastes four episodes. I was using it as an example of how the pacing was misshandled.

Also, the characters WERE pretty dumb in the beginning, at least, and saki's characterization, as other have pointed out, was weird because she was loudly praised in the show for having personality traits that other characters had as well, but didn't receive praise for.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

What if instead of shitposting and responding to shitposters, we go back to SSY discussion?

Like, who's your favorite character? What's your favorite episode? Favorite song in the ost? Why?

Squealer, no need to explain.
Episode 4 and 19, atmosphere.
Traditional song of shadows.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@ZeroReborn
characters make or break a show
what a narrow line of thinking

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@w8t4u
Lain had forgettable characters

Even the computer delivery guy had more personality than some of main characters of SSY

iluvmen
iluvmen

@PurpleCharger
suddenly
did you even pay attention? they explained the gayness in episode 3, well before they start diddling each other.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@kizzmybutt
It's just NausicaƤ mixed with fucking rats

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Boy_vs_Girl
Saki
18
Traditional Song of Shadows

w8t4u
w8t4u

@kizzmybutt
Don't care what you think Sheeky Forums
This is why i'm posting a fucking thread instead of just sitting here in my chair content in my good taste
I-it's not like I want you to validate me, b-baka

hairygrape
hairygrape

@LuckyDusty
The first three episodes were meant to establish the world/setting and part of the lore, i don't see anything wrong with that.I do agree that the plot device dumping information on the characters was bad writing though

saki's characterization, as other have pointed out, was weird because she was loudly praised in the show for having personality traits that other characters had as well, but didn't receive praise for
She has generally more focus and characterization than the others characters but i agree that the show tries to give more credit than she deserves, i think that's probably due to the director not knowing how to adapt her character to the anime in a decent way, so he had a bunch of characters saying that she was great, instead of actually showing why she was great.This isn't an uncommon approach though, Monster is a good example of a anime that does it all the time.

WebTool
WebTool

@w8t4u
good taste

lel

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@haveahappyday
You could at least hide your bias.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@kizzmybutt
Started as a really good mystery anime and ended in a shitty pseudo-war anime

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@hairygrape
Don't get me wrong, I don't thing SSY is shit, I just know it isn't the masterpiece that some people say it is.

I think the "stated not shown" characterization thing is what bothered me about the show most, honestly; it made the whole show feel dishonest.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Fuzzy_Logic

it was a mystery till very end
you probably watched some other anime and got confused or something

Supergrass
Supergrass

@WebTool
Shinsekai Yori is the true patrician anime, get some taste user

massdebater
massdebater

@Supergrass
Shinsekai Yori is the true meme anime

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Supergrass
patricians liking dystopian fiction

lel

RumChicken
RumChicken

Squealer losing was complete bullshit. Saki somehow gets advice from a dead guy and figures out how to kill the fiend. I wish the author had not resorted to this sort of deux ex machina in order to let the protagonists win. Saki or Satoru should have figured it out themselves.

Spamalot
Spamalot

The main things I remember from SSY is that they had cool clothes, and that by the end I wanted to make Saki my wife

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Deadlyinx
Good. Good. Now Post the webm

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Boy_vs_Girl
who's your favorite character?
Your momma last night.

What's your favorite episode?
All of them, it was perfect for me, each episode feel so different and strange in a good way, it just made me feel something I can't explain well, I think is the only show I marathoned in 2 days and on the edge of my seat. But if I had to choose, I go for the 19, all the death, the desesperation, the impotence, everything envelop you and you are as much scared as the same characters, realyl lost my shit in that moment.

Favorite song in the ost?
Wareta motherfucking Ringo.(and I might say, that of all time)

Why?
Well, your mom scream a lot, I like that.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@kizzmybutt
a show that Sheeky Forums generally likes
Aren't you a brave little contrarian for liking it. I did too, it's great

Snarelure
Snarelure

Discussion of this show just proves how shitty Sheeky Forums really is as a place. The fact that most of the shit in this show goes over the heads of most people here just goes to show how braindead the majority of the people here are.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Lord_Tryzalot
this is the average SSYfag

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Spamalot
Adult Saki was definitely the prettiest.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@CouchChiller
It's one of MAL's favorite anime, so this kind of behavior from the fanbase shouldn't be surprising.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@CouchChiller
Why are you replying to yourself?

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Snarelure
The only good thing about it is that it's unique. Everything other than the world building has been done better in lots of anime.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@lostmypassword
Don't get me wrong, I don't thing SSY is shit, I just know it isn't the masterpiece that some people say it is.
That's a matter of opinion, i've seen a good number of anime and SSY is one of my favorites.

Now, i think that some people are being unfair.I have the impression that people were trying so hard to prove the OP wrong that they ignored a bunch of merits and good things about the show in the process.You could say that people calling it a perfect anime are also going overboard, but that's no reason to underrate it anyway.

I think the "stated not shown" characterization thing is what bothered me about the show most, honestly; it made the whole show feel dishonest.
I get what you're saying.The anime could have been better adapted, it was unlucky to have A-1 and a character designer as its director.It was only good because the source material is amazing

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Carnalpleasure
It's one of MAL's favorite anime
Should I be surprised that you know this?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@massdebater
meme anime
/v/

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Soft_member
Should I be surprised that you know how to google and click on links
Surprised a monkey like you could hit the post button.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@King_Martha
To be fair, Maria disappeared and was killed before we ever got to see her as an adult.

Remember, whenever you see someone claim that Squealer did nothing wrong: he kidnapped and killed Maria.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Carnalpleasure
Oh shut up, it's one of Sheeky Forums favorite anime as well, stop trying to pull the ''MAL/reddit boogeyman.

askme
askme

@LuckyDusty
Who are you quoting?

Supergrass
Supergrass

@whereismyname
Empty complaints: The comment

The only complaint you can give the anime is that the characters are weak and that the animation is wonky at parts(which was intentional). Everything else about the show is stellar.

Not being the best at everything doesn't make a show bad. Most anime are mediocre at everything and best at nothing. Its the nature of the industry.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@askme
/jp/

Lunatick
Lunatick

@King_Martha
@Illusionz
I rather have them as teenagers

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Raving_Cute
Things to put in your 3x3 to pretend your taste is better than it really is for a bunch of anonymous people on the internet

Techpill
Techpill

@Carnalpleasure
MAL's favorite
fanbase
Is this true? I thought this series didn't even had a fanbase, neither was any place favourite.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Supergrass
The only complaint you can give the anime is that the characters are weak
And is that not a reasonable complaint when the show is centered on the characters 70% of the time?
Everything else about the show is stellar
You're definitely right there, that 30% of the anime was pretty good.
the animation is wonky at parts(which was intentional)
muh artistic choice amirite?

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Playboyize
It's hypocritical, isn't it? MAL threads are (rightfully) banned but 3x3 threads are allowed even though both are just about jerking off to their own egos.

FastChef
FastChef

@Playboyize
Reading comprehension skills
The show is praised on Sheeky Forums, , call it shit if you want but stop being a memespouter that brings reddit or MAL to insult everything that you don't like

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Raving_Cute
someone spent their timing making this picture in order to impress anons on the internet

someone posted this unironically trying to defend /a/'s snooty attitude over it's own shit taste

I don't know what's more pathetic.

WebTool
WebTool

@hairygrape
Can you give some source on your numbers?

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Raving_Cute
mfw I have 6 of those in my 3x3
Also, why isn't NGE in the center, it is way more popular than LOTGH.

@Playboyize
implying any of those are bad series

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@FastChef
But Mal loves it though, they think it's up there with the greats, like miria nikki and NGNL.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@hairygrape
And is that not a reasonable complaint when the show is centered on the characters 70% of the time?
No. The majority of the time, atmosphere and the world around them was what the show was focusing on. Don't be stupid.

muh artistic choice amirite?
I'm not defending their choices, I'm just telling you that the animation wasn't a result of their lack of skill as animators.

girlDog
girlDog

@Stark_Naked
Again, read the context of the reply instead of making a epic shitpost

eGremlin
eGremlin

@PurpleCharger
No self respecting /a/non would ever give a fuck about what Mal/reddit/ANN/tumblr thinks, or considers good.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

tfw I only started watching it because of gay shit

I don't know what the fuck it is, but when it has 2 guys kissing I always want to check it out. I'm not even gay.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@hairygrape
Reminder that dystopian fiction revolves around the world created, not the characters.

And, let's be honest, SSY did an amazing job at worldbuilding.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@eGremlin
/a/non
having self respect

Why are you here?

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Ignoramus
I'm not even gay.
Sure.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@PurpleCharger
Shinsekai Yori isn't even on 90 in MAL ranking though.Mirai Nikki has a pretty low ranking there, as far as i remember.

Anyway, i don't see how that's relevant.Sheeky Forums praises SSY much more than MAL

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Lord_Tryzalot
Why are you?

Supergrass
Supergrass

The themes and story were interesting in their own right, but I liked the series more for all the faux-Buddhist/Shinto visual stylings. Shun's Karmic Demon crazyhouse episode was probably one of my favorite individual episodes of anything I've ever watched

idontknow
idontknow

@hairygrape
Nice made up numbers.

Also, did you forget that the bigger focus of any story is in its plot, not the characters?Not that the characters are that bad anyway

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Ignoramus
Male fujoshi

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Ignoramus
Are you me? This is literally what I did. Well I checked it out because of gayshit. I saw a thread about it and decided to watch it, though this was back when the majority of the threads were anons saying it was shit. Now it's a majority of anons saying it's a masterpiece. You'd think a good anime like this was get some good discussion, but nope can't have any of that.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@JunkTop
Center
I don't that's relevant, the order is probably random

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@DeathDog
It's called fudanshi, you pleb.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@w8t4u
It get's tons of shitposting because it's an okay show that get's called a masterpiece, so there is blowback.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@w8t4u
See @cum2soon
.

The anime fandom is retarded and SSY is the perfect example, people only pay attention in the most flashy anime when they're airing.Waiting is much better to see what's actually worthwhile

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Ignoramus
I wish I knew it had a gay scene before watching, because I watched it with my brother. Most awkward boner ever.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Deadlyinx
It gets tons of praise because it's a masterpiece that's get called a okay show

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Every anime that's polarized on Sheeky Forums is good, never saw a exception.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Booteefool
trying to rewrite history to pretend Sheeky Forums liked this shit series
Fuck you, you piece of shit cancer.

Sheeky Forums hated this series. Threads would get no replies until gayshit happened. It's literally riding on the popularity of faggotry coming out of no where.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Sharpcharm
shitty pacing and flat characters abound

masterpiece

You need to get better standards,
you deserve more.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@lostmypassword
Naruto
DBZ

Though I guess you could argue that the people who think those are good aren't really people who browse Sheeky Forums other than to talk about those shows.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Boy_vs_Girl
@w8t4u
@Ignoramus
Fuck off back to reddit.

I wanted this series to die so bad and it did. It was dead. It was gone. There was nothing here. Then gayshit happened and cancer like you revived it.

I will never get over that.

Sheeky Forums will never get over that, honestly.

You set back this board five years.

Fuck you.

Just, fuck you.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@BunnyJinx
/a/ hated this series. Threads would get no replies
That doesn't mean Sheeky Forums hated the series you fucking retard, it means nobody knew about it or it didn't out enough at first glance.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@TalkBomber
Did SSY run over your cat or something?

Skullbone
Skullbone

@BunnyJinx
Whatever you've got to tell yourself.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

10/10 completely flawless masterpiece.

FastChef
FastChef

A real human bean.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Spamalot
Stop spouting the same nonsense over and over again, pacing wasn't that bad and neither were the characters.The rest was fantastic.and the anime was great

StonedTime
StonedTime

@TalkBomber
Whoa, the Sheeky Forums police is here to enforce his Sheeky Forums culture! We're doomed!

eGremlin
eGremlin

@TalkBomber
Don't bother wasting your time with these people

They don't care that SSY is mediocre.

They'll praise it left and right because it's unwell-known and weird.

It's actual quality is meaningless to them.

Just look up the thread, they praise it for having shitty characters. They don't care, they just want to feel artsy.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@BunnyJinx
Not the same guy, but that wasn't the case at all. If Sheeky Forums had hated it threads would have hit the bump limit one after another with shitposting.

But what happened was there just weren't a lot of threads, and the ones we got weren't very active. Sheeky Forums just wasn't interested in it.

When the gay stuff first happened there was a small surge in posting for a little bit, but it more had to do with it being novel and unexpected than popular.

Not saying Sheeky Forums liked it, just saying you're making stuff up and shitposting like it's your job.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Playboyize
It's a shallow, poorly written, sophomoric attempt at deep speculative fiction that falls on its fucking face. The author thinks he has something smart to say, but everything is either nonsensically vague or hamfisted. Then it uses cheap tactics to get idiots to watch, and you all pretend that it's a smart and meaningful story?

Fuck you. It's an insult to fans of true science fiction and dystopic stories.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@TalkBomber
It has been a long time since i saw someone THIS mad for absolutely no reason.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@TalkBomber
I don't particularly love SSY. It had shitpacing (those fucking episodes of nothing but skiiing) the animation was shit (but the artstyle was lovely to me) and the characters, save for a few, were bland (subtle character my ass). It's a personal 7/10 only because of it's world building and the rats were that interesting to me. To say it's a masterpiece is retarded, but to say it's shit is just as stupid.

Techpill
Techpill

@TalkBomber
You sound upset

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@BinaryMan
You just said the exact same thing as me. Prior to gayshit, no one gave a shit. It may as well have been live action or Western, for all Sheeky Forums cared. Then the gayshit happened and everyone started watching and shitposting.

LOL BONOBOS
I AM A REAL HUMAN LOL

I hate you so much.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@TalkBomber
I wanted this series to die so bad and it did. It was dead. It was gone. There was nothing here. Then gayshit happened and cancer like you revived it.

The gay stuff happened really early in the series, and no one who wasn't watching it knew or cared that the show existed before that. Then it went back to no one knowing or caring about it two weeks later and stayed that way until Squealer went full keikaku doori and Sheeky Forums lost its goddamn mind for it

takes2long
takes2long

@BinaryMan
This. If Sheeky Forums hated something, they'll make sure the entire board knows about it (See fucking AZ where even after it has ended, there'll still be at least one thread per week bitching about why it sucks).

If there's barely any thread for a series, it's more apathy.

TreeEater
TreeEater

mfw someone doesn't think SSY is a masterpiece and posts a wall of text about how it's mediocre

Uh huh.

Name a better sci-fi/fantasy anime. Prove how moronic your opinion is.

This is an open invitation. Validate your opinion. If SSY is "mediocre" then tell me what falls on the high side of the quality spectrum. Tell me what other anime are as good since they're apparently so commonplace.

I hope you do.

FastChef
FastChef

@TreeEater
rec post
clever

JunkTop
JunkTop

@takes2long
Hell, there's probably been more and more active threads this past year about SSY than there were during the show's run

girlDog
girlDog

@GoogleCat
cheap tactics
Shinsekai Yori did the very opposite of that.
It didn't had characters with exaggerated personalities or weird quirks to attract retards.
It didn't tried to rush its story to appeal to people with ADHD
It focused on world-building and plot, which are things that the majority of anime fans don't care about.
It had no fanservice apart from the infamous episode 8, which doesn't count as much because it was there to establish a important part of the world building.
It manages to create mystery and ambiguity without ever needing to use cheap tricks, like most anime.

In short, you're full of shit

Inmate
Inmate

@Fuzzy_Logic
I hate you so much.

Whenever I wonder why people like NTR, I'll remember that there are buttmad people like you who takes everything so damn personally that it feels so damn good to get off from your anger.

Keep sperging out, user. Your autism is a major turn on for me.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@FastChef
By describing anything as "mediocre" you are making a statement about an anime in the context of its genre. If you're unwilling to describe the parameters of this "mediocrity" then it's just a convenient and easy way of saying "not very good."

SSY is, at the very least, above average. To call it "mediocre" is to imply that there's either a lot of similar or higher quality anime or far less lower quality anime than there actually is. Tell me what quality spectrum SSY falls on the middle of.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@TreeEater
Name a better sci-fi/fantasy anime
They won't user.

They're just mad because something that they like is getting praised, it can't be helped

hairygrape
hairygrape

Yeah, SSY popularity rised during the gay moments because a faggot wouldn't shut up about kept making threads complaining about it and of course that got people attention, not because they liked the faggotry but because the spam made them curious about it, so yeah shithead your shit whining just made the anime more popular.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@JunkTop
I like SSY, calm down user

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@girlDog
It had no fanservice apart from the infamous episode 8, which doesn't count as much because it was there to establish a important part of the world building.

I'm on your side, but the Shun becoming Karma Demon episode had lots and lots of Sakibutt. In a good way. I mean, the animators fell in love with her ass, and so did I.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@girlDog
This post is exactly why I hate you faggots. You're the type of garbage who was watching before the gayshit then uses the fake popularity after gayshit to defend the shitty writing.

It's not world building. It's not in-universe events. It's fanservice used to bait and draw in idiots, which apparently most of Sheeky Forums consists of.

B-B-BBUT BONOBOS
Fuck you, you pseudo intellectual faggot. You're an insult to fans of real science fiction. How dare you defend this garbage.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@GoogleCat
It's a shallow, poorly written, sophomoric attempt
ad-hominem

deep speculative fiction
Its dystopian but that doesn't mean its speculative.

Falls on its fucking face
In what way?

The author thinks he has something smart to say, but everything is either nonsensically vague or hamfisted.
Nonsensically vague or hamfisted
You can't be both of these things at once you jackass. The author wasn't trying to say any one thing. He presented a society in which humanity altered themselves and then erased
any memory of that fact and let the audience draw their own conclusions about the implications of such a society. Just because he isn't telling you what to think like Rand and Bradbury do doesn't mean his work isn't at least as good as both.

Then it uses cheap tactics to get idiots to watch, and you all pretend that it's a smart and meaningful story?

The fact that they were all fucking around wasn't meant to titillate the audience it was supposed to dehumanise the members of the society. They turned something deeply personal into a instinctual device to cope with stress.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@eGremlin
You don't need to lash out over getting an erection from homolust. It's okay.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@eGremlin
You are an idiot and you make that more obvious every time you post. Maybe you should take a break. Go do something else for a while.

TechHater
TechHater

Look at what you've done OP

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@w8t4u
@TreeEater
Take your pick. Real authors, verified by readers who can think and analyze.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@girlDog
it didn't have characters with exaggerated personalities

It didn't have characters with personalities period.

askme
askme

@eGremlin
It's not world building. It's not in-universe events. It's fanservice used to bait and draw in idiots, which apparently most of Sheeky Forums consists of.

Yeah, i'm sure that the author of the novel putted a bunch of gay shit there to attract fiction and dystopian fans.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Spazyfool
Oh, so you're not even talking about anime. Fuck off then.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@kizzmybutt
Yeah, right, with that pacing it sure is masterpiece of boredom.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Spazyfool
Nice anime list, can i download them on nyaa?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Spazyfool
You're complete fool, he said anime, ANIME.

Booteefool
Booteefool

This fucking thread.

Sasuga Sheeky Forums.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Spazyfool
You realize the SSY novel won award after award, right?

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Spazyfool
Sure, I'll take my pick. I've read The Handmaid's Tale, and SSY is better than it is.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Supergrass
Squealer had no personality
Sake had no personality
Just give up man

Methshot
Methshot

The characters all sucked except for the two main rats.

WebTool
WebTool

@w8t4u
@TreeEater
better sci fi anime

Evangelion, Crest of the stars, SEL, even Bebop is more meaningful and better written, Dennou Coil.

better fantasy
Kemono souja erin, Moribito, Utena, mawaru penquindrum,

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Spazyfool
Shinsekai Yori is better than Fahrenheit, and on par with 1984 and Brave new world.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Spazyfool
no chinese cartoons on paper/video

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Lord_Tryzalot
The novel did, not the anime, asswit.

The novel may be an amazing piece of work with a mediocre adaption

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Spazyfool
SSY was originally a science fiction novel. Not a light novel a REAL novel. Don't turn your fucking nose up at it because it comes from Japan and it has a bit of homosexuality in it.

cum2soon
cum2soon

I can't say this anime was good because the concepts of attack inhibition and death feedback were so pants on the head retarded that it simply detracts from the overall experience. It's the single reason that made their society so backwards, but I simply can't believe a real human society couldn't see that simply allowing people to kill each other, and at the same time establishing a working judiciary and police system to prevent murders wouldn't be the best solution.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@WebTool
Evangelion
Cowboy Bebop
Utena
Penguindrum

I love all of these. They're about as good as SSY.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@haveahappyday
Real authors
This implies you were talking about the novel, unless you think the anime is written by an author?

eGremlin
eGremlin

Why do you even waste your time arguing with people who describe things as "mediocre?"

No worthwhile post on Sheeky Forums has ever contained the word "mediocre" except this one. Just add it to your comment filters and have a better browsing experience.

Illusionz
Illusionz

Isn't the novel this is based on award winning?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Spazyfool
You know what? Fuck this. I'm giving up on anime completely and reading some fucking books. And I'm going to start with everything on that list. Thanks user, I just hope that isn't a troll image.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@WebTool
Complain about shit characters
Mentions fucking Lain
Lists Penguidrum and Bebop, two anime that are the very definition of style over substance
Also, Crest of the stars is the only anime from your list that has actually good setting and world-building

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@VisualMaster
Eva is, its worldbuilding may be inferior, but the characters of Eva are on a completely different level.

likme
likme

@cum2soon
a real human society couldn't see that simply allowing people to kill each other, and at the same time establishing a working judiciary and police system to prevent murders wouldn't be the best solution.
They lived in a world were one person could kill hundreds upon hundreds of people at once. Its why society collapsed in the first place.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Spazyfool
So what you're saying is books are better than anime.

girlDog
girlDog

@VisualMaster
Fuck me,

Okay, How am I supposed to watch this show to enjoy it? I've been arguing (and shitposting) up and down the thread because I can never get why people put this up on a goddamn pedestal. It reminded me of the kind of shit middleschoolers praised as the second coming of anime christ when I was younger, shit like Elfen Lied.

What did I miss on my first watch through? What am I not getting that makes this story so great in spite of it's weak characters and it's weird pacing?

Like, you have good taste, so why did you like SSY?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@VisualMaster
@Boy_vs_Girl
Shit, I misread your post, please ignore.

likme
likme

@Need_TLC
Style is substance.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@PackManBrainlure
Not going to touch the rest of the post, but speculative fiction is an incredibly broad designation referring to stories that include any non-mundane elements whatsoever. All science fiction and fantasy are by definition speculative fiction.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@cum2soon
Yeah, try to arrest a guy that can blow up your head from kilometers, or that can kill a whole police squad in an instant. They went through many wars to stop PKs before Saki's society and concluded that changing their DNA to make them less aggresive was the best idea and even after that unhappy PKs managed to destroy normal humans through mutations and stuff.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@girlDog
Comparing SSY with Elfen Lied
That's too much man

hairygrape
hairygrape

@girlDog
You need to step back and stop taking other people's opinions so seriously.

Methshot
Methshot

@Need_TLC
I didn't even realize SEL was referring to Lain. Who calls it SEL?

Surprised he didn't mention Ergo Proxy and Texchnolyze too. I bet he thinks they are both masterpieces.

Evilember
Evilember

@girlDog
Do you not know what dystopian fiction is? I mean, if you thought this was like Elfen Lied, thats the only conclusion I can come to.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Dreamworx
@Evilember
mutants with mind powers locked away from the outside world in a strange facility

not at all like Elfen Lied

k

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Spazyfool
Of all the people I know who read tons of sci-fi, I've yet to run into someone else who's actually read Asimov. Does not compute.

likme
likme

@girlDog
Why are you this asspained that people like things you don't? Do you seriously have autism? It's just preference in fiction, not matter of life and death.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@girlDog
You do know that taste is subjective, right?You don't need to force yourself to enjoy everything that some people consider it good and you also don't need to dislike something because some people consider it bad.Just have your own taste

I'm not him but i enjoy most of the anime that you listed, i also think that SSY is amazing but that's just me.

Stop getting so worked up over something so minor

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Need_TLC
I didn't watch the show

k

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Poker_Star
because taste and quality are different?

Because just because I like something alot doesn't instantly mean that I start going around calling it a masterpiece?

Because when everyone is saying that something is the best of the best and I don't get it, I then want to try and get it?

cum2soon
cum2soon

@iluvmen
He's probably read one or two of the books on that image at best. He just googled that image to shitpost.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Need_TLC
has similar premise
IT'S THE SAME THING
Yeah man, Death Note is just like Code Geass, both shows are about teenage geniuses who think that the end justify the means!

WebTool
WebTool

@girlDog
It excels at things that are rare in anime, it's also better than most anime. It's been said before, but the world building and atmosphere are done well.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@girlDog

SSY is a lot more understated and softspoken than all those series. It doesn't beat you over the head with everything. You have to watch it attentively and pick up on the subtle story cues.

Things like, for instance, when Saki is remembering that conversation about how "our names have meaning." You take that one detail and start to explore the other characters and you see patterns. Maria means "Mother of the Messiah" for example. The other names have specific meanings too (like most Japanese names, really) but they are relevant to the characters. So that's a neat bit of foreshadowing.

That's just an example, it's little details like those that make SSY so good. It's just a show that gets better the more you think about it. That, of course, has to do with the fact that it's adapted from a much more fleshed-out novel, so there actually are answers to all the questions that the series raises, and it gives you just enough information to piece it together yourself.

Some people enjoy thinking about the anime they're watching and learning new things by thinking. SSY is very thought provoking, it's very spare in the information it gives you (save for a few isolated infodumps), it doesn't insult your intelligence, it expects you to give it thought and it expects you to trust that there are answers to the good questions it raises about itself.

It's an example of why I wish more actual novels were adapted, especially fantasy or sci-fi novels, because it allows for an anime adaptation that has a lot of depth and is very rewarding.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@MPmaster
That's the typical mentality of a highschooler, objective quality doesn't exist.

askme
askme

@Nojokur
objective quality doesn't exist.
That's the typical mentality of a highschooler.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@MPmaster
is the best of the best and I don't get it, I then want to try and get it
So what? It doesn't matter if you don't. If you care so much about differences in tastes all that much, you should just channel your autism into invoking Instrumentality instead.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@LuckyDusty
I knew there had to be some specific draw to it that I didn't get on the first go.

I'll have to rewatch it now.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Nojokur
Except merit in storytelling is a fucking ancient and widely accepted idea.

"art is subjective" is the high school mentality.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Emberfire

Okay, I hope you get something out of it this time around. I'm glad you're open to the possibility that you just weren't getting it.

For a bit of fun, pay attention to when the characters' eyes are twitching while they're talking or thinking about things.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@w8t4u
Gotcha

Thank you for being the only person to give a fleshed out and helpful response

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Poker_Star
Well to be fair, there aren't many anime like SSY.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Boy_vs_Girl
"art is subjective" is the high school mentality.

Both "there is an objective standard of quality" and "quality is subjective" are defensible positions you'll find in university levels of thought. Stop trivializing the other side of the argument instead of actually engaging it. That's actually what high schoolers do.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Poker_Star
@AwesomeTucker
@Stark_Naked
@Evil_kitten
@Firespawn
Shit Suckass Yuri is a book, you turbine faggot. You pretend to be some intellectual watching high fiction, and you didn't even know that?

Kill yourself.

@Lord_Tryzalot
In Japan.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Emberfire
open-minded user

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@askme
Wrong, teenagers are obsessed with objectively quality because they think that they're defined by their tastes.

That happens due to people being extremely insecure in their teens, they have nothing to define themselves so they try to make up for it with their supposed refined and good taste.

Most people realize that's fucking stupid when they grow up, mostly because it's impossible to define something as being objectively good but also because they lose much of their insecurity

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Fried_Sushi
In Japan.
So?

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Boy_vs_Girl
see @Stupidasole

WebTool
WebTool

@eGremlin

My pleasure. I love this series and I want more people to appreciate it. One of the things I love so much about it is that it's very nuanced and understated. For that reason it occasionally leaves people wondering what the big deal is.

I loved it because I found it captivating, though, and it made me WANT to think more about it. Maybe you didn't fall in love with it at first viewing like I did. You might not like it on second viewing either, so no guarantees. I hope you at least come to understand what's loved about it though.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@lostmypassword
Japan isn't known for having good taste in literature.
I mean christ, most of them can't even speak english correctly, much less read it.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@AwesomeTucker
Then you've just admitted that SSY is one of the best anime then if it's so few are on it's level. Congrats.

5mileys
5mileys

@Nojokur
Objective quality does exist, it's just impossible to accurately determine it directly, so we're forced to determine the quality of something through the lens of perspective, which causes a degree of inaccuracy depending on the person.

Most folks take their initial perception of a work at face value and pair it 1-to-1 with quality, which is incredibly inaccurate. Occasionally someone with a brain will actually think about what they've perceived and how they perceived it and have a much more accurate concept of that work's actual quality.

Derp.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@TurtleCat
chose sneaky ways to do it
They're brainwashed to not even conceive of intentionally hurting one another. When the kids even realize it's POSSIBLE they're all "Kill someone? Why would anybody want to do that?"

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Stupidasole
Really? I find a lot of references to Western literature in anime. Particularly English and Russian literature.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Lord_Tryzalot
That's just gay shit with a sad, very gay ending.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@5mileys
The only post in this thread that was actually well thought out.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@AwesomeTucker
Something can't be mediocre if it's peerless.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@lostmypassword
I think user is pulling your leg

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Stupidasole
I find this post highly hilarious.

Entirely correct, but hilarious.

askme
askme

@Boy_vs_Girl
Stop projecting. Go to deviant art. And look at how many people use "That's just an opinion" to defend their nonexistent art skills.

@Stupidasole
Yeah ok. Because nobody translates literature into anything other than English. Lets just ignore that most literature was originally written as languages other than English. And Japan is also a person that only has one poor taste in literature rather than a group of people that have different tastes in literature.

Seriously I hope to God you're trying to troll me.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@BinaryMan
It's not peerless, scifi and dystopia are much more common in books.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@viagrandad
Hot damn, those Dutch can paint

StonedTime
StonedTime

@askme

see
@lostmypassword
@New_Cliche

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Bidwell
Anime and literature are vastly different genres so you can't really compare the two. The art style, voice acting and music direction, for instance, all contribute to SSY's quality. Literature contains none of these elements.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@BinaryMan
he doesn't read audio-books

TreeEater
TreeEater

@BinaryMan
genres

I meant mediums (media?), whatever you get me

FastChef
FastChef

@BinaryMan
Anime and literature are vastly different genres
I stopped reading there. They are MEDIUMS not GENRES. And each medium has it's own compliments. And no one is debating on the visual direction of SSY are they? No, they're talking about the writing, the writing is what their praising. Writing can be compared across mediums.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Emberfire
I just said that's a mentality typically found on teenagers.I'm not saying that you shouldn't argue over the merits of a work, i'd be contradicting myself if i said that.There's a clear difference between people discussing about the quality of something and people who think that they can catalogue everything as being good, bad or mediocre in a objective and cold way.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Spazyfool
Darwin's Radio
Camofauge
Holy shit, I thought I was the only person to read those.

Techpill
Techpill

Absolutely
The point of this show is you should respect other creatures like monster rats

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@happy_sad
Honest question, how do they compare to SSY?

Evilember
Evilember

@askme
Trying to prove his point with personal examples instead of explaining his reasoning
Really?

TechHater
TechHater

@Techpill
No, the point of the show is that friendship can overcome everything.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Techpill
There was no point of the show, really. It had a couple different themes played out but no clear answer.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@FastChef
Yeah user, because we all know that everything about the story and world-building that was in the novel was perfected translated and adapted to the anime.It's just like that with movies and TV series too, right?

TechHater
TechHater

@FastChef
I stopped reading because you used the wrong word even though you corrected yourself in your next post

You are an intellectual midget.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@TechHater
That's also a point yeah
Friend ships can be deus ex machina

askme
askme

@Evil_kitten
Moral ambiguity and things not being as they look are the main themes in my opinion.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Evil_kitten
Humans are absolute trash and we're doomed to repeat the same mistakes as our ancestors and watch the world burn down.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

shinsekai yori is on the same level as Nagi no Asukara

amazing story. great visuals. interesting characters and relationships. but could have been so much better.

takes2long
takes2long

@TalkBomber
Except that it's doubtful most people here have read the novels and most peopel here praising SSY are talking about the anime aren't they?
@TechHater
Wow, it's almost like I didn't see your post which was literally seconds apart from mine, sensitive much?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Burnblaze
There's not much to compare.

I really enjoyed DR, but I'm a biology student, so go figure.

Camouflage was also pretty fun, but it kinda dropped the ball in the last couple chapters. It was like the author hit a deadline and rushed to get the last few chapters done as quickly as possible.

I also enjoyed SSY enough to buy the BDs.

They're all enjoyable, but they're too different to say which one is better than the other.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

I still can't believe a shit studio like A-1 could do SSY.

Methshot
Methshot

@CodeBuns
@likme
but everyone in their society could use pk
so why the fuck inhibit themselves if they could easily handle someone going on a killing spree if they wanted.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Stupidasole
While i agree with most of your points, i think that Shinsekai Yori is better than Nagi.

On a related note, Shiki is another example of a anime that had great potential but wasn't so good at the end

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Techpill
kioumaru dieing was the only thing that i disliked about SSY

it was kind of annoying how it was all
WE MONSTER RATS SHOULDNT HAVE TO OBEY HUMANS
and then literally 5 minutes later
OH YOU WANT ME TO DIE FOR YOUR PLAN IN WHICH NO ONE KNOWS IF IT WILL ACTUALLY WORK? NO PROBLEM!

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Gigastrength
I can't believe a shit studio was capable of a shit adaptation

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@takes2long
It also had nothing to do with the conversation. You just felt like pointing out that the wrong word was used even though it was clear what I meant. Proof positive that all you're doing is try to "win an argument" instead of have an actual conversation. The irony is that by trying so hard to make yourself look smart, you're making yourself look stupid.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@takes2long
Except that it's doubtful most people here have read the novels and most peopel here praising SSY are talking about the anime aren't they?
So, why are you comparing novels with the anime?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Illusionz
It's by far their best anime though.

I wish that was Madhouse doing SSY

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@5mileys
Objective quality does exist
Is peanut butter objectively better than chocolate? If you like hard lines over smooth shading, you'll say a show with hard lines is of higher quality if all else is equal. "Quality" is just what you tend to prefer.

Why is you're waifu best girl?
cuz i like her personality and hair etc.
Why do you like those things?
cuz i just do

It's all taste. @likme

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

ITT people discussing a novel which hasn't been translated into English

Good thread

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Gigastrength
Didn't you read my post? Writing is comparable across mediums.
@SomethingNew
Proof positive that all you're doing is try to "win an argument" instead of have an actual conversation
You mean how you're doing right now? If you had bothered to read my post you would know that I happened to have actually addressed your point.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Need_TLC
Madhouse sucks at novel adaptations. They're only good when they have a storyboard to work with aka Manga.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@VisualMaster
You're assuming that absence of evidence is evidence of absence. I'd disagree with his post in that objective quality does exist but to say it isn't is just as retarded. Or maybe worse since it's all about "how I feeel" with you people.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@VisualMaster
You're conflating preference and quality, the exact act referred to by:
Most folks take their initial perception of a work at face value and pair it 1-to-1 with quality, which is incredibly inaccurate.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Crazy_Nice
to say it doesn't*

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Spamalot
I don't know why this is so hard to understand for some people.

Just because you like something the most doesn't make it the best there is.

Just because something is high quality doesn't mean that you have to like it.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Spazyfool
Shit, I've only read 12 of these. I need to get to work

Methshot
Methshot

@ZeroReborn
The anime is a true adaption. The manga is completely it's own thing, but the Anime is page for page directly from the novel

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Spamalot
@Crazy_Nice
Measure why a work of fiction is of higher quality without saying "I like that more."

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@5mileys
The only thing that can be objectively measured in anime is the quality of the animation.It's impossible to qualify things like story, characters, OST and setting as being objectively good or bad.You can try to explain with logic why you think that those things are bad or good but it doesn't matter, in the end your logic will always be affected by your own personal perspective/experience.It doesn't matter how neutral you try to be because your bias will always show up in one way or another.

What people have to remember is that things that are bad for you may be considered good or of value by other people and you'll never be able to prove that neither of those are right or wrong.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@MPmaster
Now you're just being retarded and ignoring my post entirely. Just because humans in so far are not capable of measuring fiction on an objective scale doesn't mean it's impossible/

Also even if I were to answer your question it still doesn't mean I'm proving it can be objective.

Measure why a work of fiction is of higher quality without saying "I like that more."
OK, lemme get two series you've probably watched, HxH and Naruto (manga).

HxH is better because it's characters become fleshed out as opposed to being introduced and then forgotten. There I believe this work of fiction is better than that one without saying "I like that more". And it still didn't prove a thing.

Just because your incapable of understanding it doesn't mean it's not there.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Emberburn
HxH is better because it's characters become fleshed out

People tend to like it more when characters are fleshed out

Keep trying.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Deadlyinx
Are you incapable of understanding what I'm posting? I literally said, it doesn't prove a thing. You asked "tell me x without saying y" and I did.

5mileys
5mileys

Shinsekai Yori threads are always full of shitposting and heated discussions but i suppose that's much better than waifu circlejerking

Booteefool
Booteefool

@5mileys
hard shit is better than soft shit

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@iluvmen
To say that there's objective quality is to say all works of fiction exist on a big list from best to worst, and if somebody disagrees then they're objectively wrong. As wrong as if they'd said 2+2=5.

Until you can BEGIN proving something like that, you're effectively saying "Cookie dough ice cream is better than chocolate because people tend to like it more." You've only made an assertion of preferences.

idontknow
idontknow

Most of Sheeky Forums agrees, actually.

Illusionz
Illusionz

A Calm From the New World's Tomorrow

An elderly Saki and Satoru foresaw the degradation of their society and how it would eventually lead to a global catastrophe. In order to save humanity they lead a group of like minded scientists in a project to genetically engineer human embryos with the ability to survive underwater with a special membrane called "Ena".

They limited the embryos' ability for Cantus to only a faint emphatic ability when their Ena reacts with water. Saki's protege, a brilliant young man used his Cantus to alter himself to survive underwater so he can watch over the fledgling civilization. He was known and worshiped by the Sea Humans as the Sea God.

As the Cantus Humans caused untold destruction in the surface, the Sea Humans were spared from the calamity under the protection of the Sea. Thousands of years pass and the surface has calmed and the Cantus Humans were no more. Many of the Sea Humans cast off their Ena to return to the surface.

To this day the Sea Dwellers and Surface dwellers are oblivious to their origins..

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Bidwell
Naruto
DBZ
these anime aren't polarized user, i never saw anyone praising Naruto as being a masterpiece.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Illusionz
Still haven't seen this, but I've heard some shit.
Is it true that it eventually becomes "Shadow over Innsmouth?"

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@GoogleCat
You're thinking of Madoka.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@MPmaster
The merit of its message, the effectiveness of its execution, and the novelty of the work overall.

@Gigastrength
The post outright says both that there is objective quality, but that you can't objectively measure quality.

Perspective doesn't mean a person's judgement of quality is pointless, only that it cannot be perfectly accurate.

A person who thinks "I like it" and "it's good" mean the same thing is going to have such an inaccurate notion of quality that it is probably pointless to give it any credence. On the other hand, if several people with an academic understanding of narrative and the ability to think critically about a story each individually, in a vacuum, come to roughly the same conclusion about the quality of a work, that rough consensus has pretty good odds of at least being close to the objective quality.

Not that it isn't pointless to go around on Sheeky Forums saying shit like "X is good because I say so and have a BA in Literature," since nobody cares, everyone's anonymous, and any idiot can get a bachelor's

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Illusionz
theres nothing lovecraftian about this show

its more of a fairy tale fantasy than science fiction or occult

takes2long
takes2long

Why do you guys always have to respond to this shitposter who never elaborates his points? It's the same exchange every thread.

@cum2soon
Everyone is a walking nuke

Inmate
Inmate

@ZeroReborn
It's being translated, just a few chapters left.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@CodeBuns
The merit of its message
Subjective
the effectiveness of its execution
Subjective
and the novelty of the work overall.
Subjective.

likme
likme

@CodeBuns
The thing is that you may seek objective quality, but you'll be never obtain it.

It's an endless search for something that doesn't exist

Techpill
Techpill

@takes2long
if they are walking nukes (which is an exaggeration btw), then they can easily police each other instead of the convoluted system they created.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

The animation is quite poor and suffers from terrible production values. I'd suggest sticking with the original material instead of bothering with this piss poor adaptation.

likme
likme

@Techpill
Not really, one person alone can wipe an entire city if he gets them by surprise.It happened a bunch of times in the past, the convoluted system was developed after centuries of constant failure

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Crazy_Nice
Animation is poor
Only in a few episodes, the rest is fine

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

If the scientists could easily change the human dna, why didn't they just remove the cantus?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Techpill
if they are walking nukes (which is an exaggeration btw), then they can easily police each other
I don't understand your logic, how would this make it easy to police. We can't even police stable bombs properly, let alone walking bombs with activation based on the intention, moods or randomness of individuals.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@kizzmybutt
I don't care what you think Sheeky Forums
What are you doing here, then?

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Crazy_Nice
because each person has it?

WebTool
WebTool

@haveahappyday
There are ways to objectively see which works are better than others.

For example, classics are such because they stood through the sands of time. Shakespeare's Hamlet and Macbeth are seen as better than virtually any other plays because of the sheer impact they've had on literature and they have stood the test of time. Today, they're taught in virtually every English class.

George Orwell's essay "Lear, Tolstoy and the Fool"

In reality there is no kind of evidence or argument by which one can show that Shakespeare, or any other writer, is 'good' ... Ultimately there is no test of literary merit except survival, which is itself an index to majority opinion. Artistic theories such as Tolstoy's are quite worthless, because they not only start out with arbitrary assumptions, but depend on vague terms ('sincere', 'important' and so forth) which can be interpreted in any way one chooses. Properly speaking one cannot answer Tolstoy's attack.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@BunnyJinx
Because they care about the cantus users, not humans

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

the characters are dull

They're not dull, they're interesting. They are not like your typical "cool" and eccentric anime characters that teleport behind their enemies and say "ssh nothing personal kid" but by being different, they are intesrting. They feel human but at the same time not fully, as if they're holding themselves back in expressing emotions. That's interesting because it makes them mysterious. The viewer wonder what they would feel like in situation X and it adds to the suspense in the last arc where they were shown to care for each other much more than before (not just what was left of main cast but also the bystanders).

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Illusionz
Why is NagiAsu always compared to SSY

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Carnalpleasure

because MAL tell them so, nagiasu was not even a dystopian

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Emberfire
Your thinking is far too simplistic. With cantus, I can headshot everyone from a distance and no one would even know who is actually doing the killing. Even I might not be aware that I'm the one killing people. And you just need one person to cause catastrophic damage. Stopping is not the method to deal with cantus, prevention is the only way to go with it.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

This was a somewhat nice thread. I'm surprised, given how shit the OP was.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV31EHwtayo

Evilember
Evilember

@CouchChiller
God tier ED

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@kizzmybutt
I've seen like 10 of these threads in the past 4 hours. Are we being raided or is OP just desperately trying to fit in?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Illusionz
This is what I really want.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Illusionz
Did you just make that up or was their another novel?

Flameblow
Flameblow

@lostmypassword
their
I meant "there" but was too tired to get it right.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Flameblow
I made it up by finding a way to make Nagi no Asukara be a sequel to SSY

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@lostmypassword
Nagi no Asukara - From the Calm of Tomorrow
Shin Sekai Yori - From the New World

From the Calm of the New World's Tomorrow

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Illusionz
Hikari and Manaka are descendants of Saki and Satoru

viagrandad
viagrandad

Good thing this shit thread is finally dying.

The posters that participated in this thread must never breed.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@viagrandad
You included? Well, I guess I have to agree.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Bidwell
I personally watched every one of those threads hit bump limit you lying sack of shit.

SSY threads only existed on Thursday night from 12-3 am EST

Playboyize
Playboyize

@kizzmybutt
The manga is better.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Stark_Naked
Oh wow, user, you really showed him. Please, tell us more.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Flameblow
I'm literally asking, you included? I just got in the thread.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Fuzzy_Logic
That wasn't me though. I just got in the thread :^)

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@cum2soon
Same. Hence the question.

eGremlin
eGremlin

2015
watching Shitsogay Yaoi
Might as well kill yourself

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Only reason I finished the show was because of Squealer

Squealer did nothing wrong, he was right

Evilember
Evilember

@Boy_vs_Girl
Him and Kiroumaru were both great characters, shame the main cast was so lack luster.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@eGremlin
Quite the cancerous fag, aren't you? https://archive.org/a/search/filename/1336778713924/ I'd seriously be embarrassed to be you.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@PurpleCharger
12 posts is a lot

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@kizzmybutt
Faggot hipster shit

5mileys
5mileys

@PurpleCharger
woww he uses a reaction image a lot
You seem quite buttflustered user, are you okay?

Supergrass
Supergrass

@SniperWish
That's the worst part, he can be both new as fuck and have a bunch of other "epic reaction images" according to the different shitposting time.
@5mileys
You're literally retarded if you can't get the point across.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Supergrass
This is what I imagine people like you are like.

Evilember
Evilember

I don't care what you think
Clearly false otherwise this thread wouldn't exist

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Playboyize
This

FastChef
FastChef

@Crazy_Nice
bumping a page 10 thread to say "this"
At least sage it you retard

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@FastChef
Hi, Mr. Retard

Playboyize
Playboyize

It wins on atmosphere and the way it got me to feel disgusted.

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