I'm not sure what to think of this

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

I'm not sure what to think of this.

http://www.newsarama.com/29144-rebirth-green-arrow-writer-ollie-is-a-social-justice-warrior.html

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AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Ollie was always liberal as hell so it makes sense.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Sharpcharm
This makes sense.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Sharpcharm
I'm not sure what to think of this.
If you read comics you'd be like, "seem like this writer is gonna be writing Ollie like he has been since the 60's"

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Warrior
Check
Wants justice check

Why can't he be? Aren't all heroes inherently social justice warriors?

There's inequality out there

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Sharpcharm
Seems perfectly in-character. As long as he's smug as hell about it.

iluvmen
iluvmen

So he'a gonna sit on Twitter all day and whinge about titties in comic books?

Snarelure
Snarelure

@viagrandad

Lots of people on Sheeky Forums don't so expect an abundance of Tumblr boogeyman shit in this thread.

WebTool
WebTool

@SomethingNew
No, Ollie is much more political than the average superhero

Try actually reading comics

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@iluvmen
Honestly I want to see him argue with Hawkman again

FastChef
FastChef

@iluvmen
Do you idiots actually think social justice is about online shit?

"Social justice is the fair and just relation between the individual and society. This is measured by the explicit and tacit terms for the distribution of wealth, opportunities for personal activity and social privileges"

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Sharpcharm
He always was insufferable.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@iluvmen
get your hate speech off our city

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Sharpcharm
Ollie is actually doing something which makes him an actual social justice warriorand not a meme one who only ever use their mouth.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@FastChef
Do you idiots actually think social justice is about online shit?

I think they know better but it's easy to shitpost about

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Sharpcharm
Oliver Queen campaigning for social justice
SHOCK! GASP! This cannot be! What next, Wonder Woman comics that explore feminist issues? Stop the fucking presses.

Seriously, people, why are you surprised that superhero comics often serve as platforms to explore sociopolitical issues? That's half the reason capes exist in the first place.

cum2soon
cum2soon

how young are you, OP?

takes2long
takes2long

@FastChef
She's never going to sleep with you.

askme
askme

@Sharpcharm
Green Batman has always been a terrible character, this isn't news.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Green Arrow's natural evolution as a character from super liberal to super social justice warrior

StonedTime
StonedTime

@TurtleCat
Greatest friendship never explored.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@FastChef
Probably because non-issues become issues under "social justice" lenses.

inb4 but those aren't REAL social justice warriors

farquit
farquit

@Sharpcharm
"social justice warrior" refers to someone who was hyper aggressive and militant; who uses social justice as an excuse to bully others.
It's NOT just someone who wants equality.

Someone who isn't an asshole about it is a social justice advocate.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@StonedTime
they both believe the ends justify the means, that killing is necessary/can be heroic

put them both in the justice league and they're the only ones with those opinions (aside from wonder woman, who only shares the latter)

massdebater
massdebater

Whoa, are we in the 70's again?

No, seriously, how is this news?

Inmate
Inmate

white man with beard
yeah, that's pretty much what most SJWs are

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@SomethingNew
Batman beats everyone equally, but he'd probably get called a rascist every time he hit a black thug.

We all know he only hates italians.

Methshot
Methshot

@farquit
Green Arrow's always been an asshole about it.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Bidwell
SJW's are always smug as hell about it.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@FastChef
No. That is what it should be. What it is are self-declared victims crying about how opressed they are and how unfair society is and how wrong someone is for an expression they made as though they did it to intionally be malicious, who really don't do a damn thing to bring about the change they seek.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Inmate
Rich white leftist.
Pottery.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Isn't this usual for Ollie?

JunkTop
JunkTop

why put such a shitty label on it?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@massdebater
No, seriously, how is this news?
Do you really think Sheeky Forums reads comics? Most people here just shitpost and whine about "muh tumblr boogeyman"

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@JunkTop
Percy is clearly unaware of the connotation the term has taken on.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@BlogWobbles
Yeah...

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Sharpcharm
You think this guy chose "Social Justice Warrior" just to cause a fuss and get clicks?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Need_TLC
Indeed.

Being called a SJW isn't a good thing nowadays.

whereismyname
whereismyname

The goatee is back!?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

For all you people saying that it makes sense, I think you are missing the point. Things have changed - it is about context.

Grell's Oliver Queen was quite liberal but also very brutal. Conflating his old position then we more modern ideals of social justice is like comparing fruit to a car. A liberal in one day might be a conservative tomorrow. The injustices he thought then are different to what many social justice people fight for today.

I loved Grell's Green Arrow. This annoucement? Well, we will just have to see how it goes. I am not very hopeful. I enjoyed Lemire's brief run on Green Arrow but I feel like there are very few creators out there with ideas for it.

This just seems like another move to drum up some semblance of interest in a character with a show that is increasingly rocky and a not very good recent foundation.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@FastChef
@Nude_Bikergirl
Social justice is the same as feminism. It ignores actual injustice in third world countries because it's much easier to invent issues and "combat" them at home, in a cozy developed society. Only fucking retards believe there's social privilege that stems from anything else but money. As for existing issues like taxation and such, I don't see any sort of educated opinions on the subject. Only bullshit that sounds like something from 1922 Russia.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@SomethingNew
Because social justice and democratic socialism are to justice and democracy what the Democratic people's Republic of North Korea is to a republic. Social justice is inherently unjust because it seeks to forgive people of crimes because they are poor or gay or black while punishing straight, white, rich, and men who haven't committed a crime

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

He will kill white people .

Evilember
Evilember

@Sharpcharm
It's probably just clickbait. I doubt they are using the term the same way you would use it. He's probably not shooting people in the head for manspreading on the subway.

Newsarama thanks you for your clicks.

SniperWish
SniperWish

What's with the faggy bow they keep giving him?

Longbow Hunters more like Compound Amateurs lmao

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Sharpcharm
it's the natural progression of his character
he's grown to be super liberal to counter Batman's heavy right wing values

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@farquit
THANK YOU! Since GG though, this is what the mainstream Internet thinks it fucking means.

TechHater
TechHater

@FastChef
That's not justice, that's social Marxism

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Sharpcharm
Sounds fine to me. This is who the character has always been really. It will be interesting to see how far off the tumbler edge he goes though.

Regardless, this is the right character for that.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@BlogWobbles
he's grown to be super liberal to counter Batman's heavy right wing values

You mean Hawkmans.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

"My chosen name is Olivia Queen. After years of living a lie in hell, I returned to my preferred gender as a demi-genderflux female with only one goal: to save my city from the patriarchy. But my old approach wasn't enough. I had to become someone partially female, I had to become something partially male. I had to become... the Green, Red, Orange, Yellow, Blue, Violet, and Indigo FemArrow!"

SHITLORD, YOU AND YOUR MICROAGGRESSIONS HAVE FAILED THIS CITY!

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Poker_Star
You have a very cartoonish view of what democratic socialism is.

It's not about punishment or reward. It's abput the fact that what rich and poor people are capable of is not equal, and that you can't pretend a free market by itself is just.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Dreamworx
I would really like to see a Green Arrow storyline where he becomes a kind of Che Guevara figure, travelling from country to country helping the locals rise up against despots.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@lostmypassword
Something something something ethics in bow wielding

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@takes2long

underrated post

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Dreamworx
This just seems like another move to drum up some semblance of interest in a character with a show that is increasingly rocky and a not very good recent foundation.
Ir, as they've repeatedly said about Rebirth, it's about bringing back classic elements of characters and the world that people loved but were so far missing since the reboot.

TechHater
TechHater

@Crazy_Nice
He says Batman because he's a casual.

Nojokur
Nojokur

Honestly, if this somehow results in Schmidt giving Dinah a cock I'll be happy

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Burnblaze
Grell GA deals with this to an extent after a botched job lands him as a terrorist for a while and he's out of the country.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@PackManBrainlure
Democratic socialism is a form of slavery just as all socialism is a form of slavery.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@PackManBrainlure
This. Even people who support a true free market admit that it isn't fair. The invisible hand is more than just where you shop and who you buy from.

King_Martha
King_Martha

When you really think about it, no modern superhero can be progressive or even liberal, because as works of fiction they always maintain a status quo, which is inherently conservative.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@StonedTime
Ir, as they've repeatedly said about Rebirth, it's about bringing back classic elements of characters and the world that people loved but were so far missing since the reboot.
What they have said and what they will do are completely different things.

The modern Green Arrow has been very tainted by the show trying to make a younger sleeker version of the character who was, in my opinion, best when middle aged.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Dreamworx
Important to note that this isn't an announcement. They took a line from the preview and made a headline out of it. It's not like Percy or DC is the one pushing the narrative, no one is out to prove something here.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Boy_vs_Girl
Just and fair are too different things. Socialism is not just because it forced people into slavery

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Need_TLC
And then there are terms like "wage slave." No one is truly free because anyone can find slavery in everything.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Sharpcharm
Same per usual

Skullbone
Skullbone

His beard is now ironic

Flameblow
Flameblow

@New_Cliche
It was /never/ a good thing. It existed in fandom circles since around 08. It was sarcastic term used by left-wing people to call out the toxic extreme ones, that pervert the cause of "social justice" into extreme hate and bullying. It's only post 2014, that it get refers to anyone even slightly left of the political spectrum/those who talk about social justice issues.

All that's caused now is a whole bunch of cross-purposes, because people don't know what definition you mean when you use it. "SJW" now means many different things to many different people.

Shitshow

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Sharpcharm
He's more of a Social Justice Ranger

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Evil_kitten
by the show
That had nothing to do with the show, that was just every character in New52

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Evil_kitten
What they have said and what they will do are completely different things.
Rebirth hasn't even come out yet. This is the first preview we've gotten of GA. You know knothing about what they're going to do other than what they said they're going to do.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

he always seemed to care a lot about stuff that doesn't really matter.

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