Why should From bother with exclusives?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Dark Souls 3 already outsold Bloodborne
Why should From bother with exclusives?

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http://www.designntrend.com/articles/63985/20151103/bloodborne-dark-souls-from-software-sony-jrpg-bloodborne-2.htm
Lunatick
Lunatick

sony gives big paychecks.

Spamalot
Spamalot

Sony gives them money up front which in turn they can use to make more games for all.

You're welcome

SniperWish
SniperWish

inb4 Sony Ponys insist BB was a better game

whereismyname
whereismyname

@CouchChiller
comparing platform seller exclusives with money maker multiplats

Supergrass
Supergrass

@CouchChiller
cost of dev

sony bring producing and other resources to the table

Sony will cover expenses and offer a favorable cut

Sony and from go way back

miyazaki got inspired by games, cause of a playstation exclusive

Sony have an amazing working relationship with froms new parent company

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Lunatick
@Spamalot
@Supergrass
implying that's more than what more sales gives them

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@CouchChiller
1 platform vs 3 platforms

5mileys
5mileys

@CouchChiller
Did you also take into account all the PS4's bought to play Bloodbourne? 1 PS4 = $300 (5 dark souls 3's)

Evilember
Evilember

@Spamalot
but if they made BB multiplat then they would get more money in the end

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@CouchChiller

I've never plays a Souls game or a Bloodborne, but it seems abundantly clear that the 3rd game in a series is going to have an easy time beating the first game in a series. The benefit of the exclusive is that they get a higher bonus of some sort for exclusivity, and now they have another series for which they can churn out sequels

Playboyize
Playboyize

@MPmaster
I implied no such thing. Just explaining the process. Stop being dumb.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@MPmaster
fromsoft company culture doesnt care bout sales

look at thier portfolio

sony will fund them and let them take risks

Soft_member
Soft_member

@CouchChiller
Maybe you should buy a PS4 if you want Bloodborne so badly.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@5mileys
PS4s are sold at a loss you stupid cunt

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Evilember
gets pirated by the millions on the PC
From already made the money back because Sony covered it

Come on you're smarter than this

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Evilember
https://twitter.com/yosp/status/685616464229838850?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Evil_kitten
damage control

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Dreamworx
You don't actually know what corporate culture is do you?

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Spamalot
never ever

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Playboyize
I know about the process, thanks.

@Dreamworx
a company doesn't care about sales
lmao

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@CouchChiller
Comparing sales of multiple-platform version with sales of only 1 console version.
Retard.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@TalkBomber
So why ask stupid questions?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@CodeBuns
40% of DS3 sales were on PC
I may be smarter than you, sure.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Spamalot
meaningless bait-y buzzword
bloodborne's the best in the series and ds3 is a step backwards and if you haven't played it you're missing out but that's not to say the other games in the series aren't great

Methnerd
Methnerd

@PurpleCharger
source: my ass

StonedTime
StonedTime

@CouchChiller
why people still think bb only sold 2m? that's sales from 4 months after release, no new number was released.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Sir_Gallonhead
I think you're the stupid one here m8. They're probably just going to churn out whatever they need to complete the contract with Sony and not make any more Sony exclusives. Multiplats give significantly more money.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

ds3 ends up being a namco focus tested dud

"p-please f-f-fromsoft make more g-games for p-p-p-p-puh-puh-peeeeeeeceeeeeeee"

Evilember
Evilember

@RavySnake
Are you this stupid? Wow, it must hurt to be this painfully retarded.

The PS4 is produced for a slight loss, but it still has to sell to make back most of the production money. What the fuck do you think, they just sit on shelves and Sony is content because they're gonna sell for a slight loss?

Do I even need to add how buying a PS4 for BB will also encourage the users to buy other exclusives like Until Dawn, Uncharted 4, Tearaway, etc

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@PurpleCharger
it sold some copies so pirating doesn't matter.

Please user if you're gonna shitpost put some effort in

askme
askme

@CouchChiller
meme game gets huge sales
Literally who gives a shit

I guess we should stop sales on any other game besides pokemon and call of duty now

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@BunnyJinx
comparing sales between one videogame and another videogame
shut up git gud git gud GIT GUD NEVER EVER NEVER EVER STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP DELETE THIS

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Carnalpleasure
They're probably just going to churn out whatever they need to complete the contract with Sony

ds3 seems to be the rush job that got shat out m8

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Evilember
buying a PS4 for BB
Most people buy a PS4 for CoD and Fifa.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Carnalpleasure
Im not disagreeing with you. Why are you so hostile user? OP asked a question and I answered it

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Spazyfool
and uncharted 4

DeathDog
DeathDog

Dark souls 3 was pirated more than bloodborne
Why should From even bother with PC releases?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@CouchChiller
They should just port over Bloodborne and enjoy some actual sales from the glorious PC master race.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@CouchChiller
honestly the exclusive deal seems retarded
how much fucking money do you get payed to deny a majority of your audience, thats just bad marketing

idontknow
idontknow

@Nude_Bikergirl
ds3 nearly sold 1m on PC already
missing out on these profits and lolxbone ones for the faggots with that
muh pirating
whatever sonypony

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@BunnyJinx
see
@Stark_Naked

eGremlin
eGremlin

@ZeroReborn
ds3 seems to be the rush job that got shat out m8
It the best Souls game. And the DLC will be even better.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

your series becomes popular due to multiplat
make one of your games exclusive
go back to multiplat
why did this happen

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@eGremlin
It the best Souls game.
ds2.2 is best souls game

holy fuck

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@CouchChiller
doesn't the money go to the publisher? not sure how this works exactly

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@CouchChiller
multiplatform
equivalent development cost as exclusive

Nice thread OP

By your logic, no one would make PC games because titles always sell better on consoles.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@TalkBomber
ds2.2
Well meme'd sonygger.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Stark_Naked
Savage

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@idontknow
Implying I don't have a PC
Implying profits matter when Sony fronted the bill
no source for claims

Whatever dude sucks to suck if you can't understand why exclusives exist

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@TalkBomber
ds2.2
parries and backstabs are nearly instant
you literally can't get hit if you just keep rolling
literally not even made by the same team
DS3 is literally DS1.2 you fucking retard

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Poker_Star

You're delusional.

It begain with DeS. If anything, they just came back to the beginning with BB.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@viagrandad
bloodborne's the best in the series and ds3 is a step backwards
I heard if you keep saying it enough it might become true.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Sharpcharm
They'll just keep making games without the original developers like they did with Katamari.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@ZeroReborn
depends on the contracts
but publisher pay for everything or the majority or publishing and marketing... and devs split/get paid, receive bonuses based on something in the contracts...

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Snarelure
nobody played demons souls dude, das1 is what got souls popular

StonedTime
StonedTime

@idontknow
I remember cucks like you telling me that Bloodborne selling 1 million in about a week was terrible.
Considering From will probably do more Sony exclusives, the deal wasn't so bad.
I'll see you crying about it when it happens.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Dreamworx
FromSoft doesn't care about sales

They make a hit, and where as scumbag movie production companies will contract and make a sequel, FromSoft makes 4 sequels all of which are the exact same.

sony will fund them and let them take risks

That's literally the opposite of what they do, and now that they found something that sells to idiots they'll keep making it over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again

Inmate
Inmate

@LuckyDusty
oh man the new

RavySnake
RavySnake

@LuckyDusty
Demon's Souls sold 39,966 copies in its first week in Japan,[66][67] and boosted PlayStation 3 sales in the region.[68] It has sold 134,585 copies in Japan as of December 2009.[69] In North America, Demon's Souls debuted at the eleventh place of the October 2009 charts according to NPD Group, with over 150,000 copies sold,[70] selling over 500,000 by September 2010.[38]

As of March 16, 2015, Demon's Souls has sold over 1.7 million copies.[71]

TechHater
TechHater

@Burnblaze
great retort
Never ever

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@PurpleCharger
implying you aren't a mobileposting niggarell sonybrony
implying profits don't matter
http://steamspy.com/search.php?s=dark+souls

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@LuckyDusty
The community was better before people like you showed up.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@eGremlin
I refuse to call the souls game with the worst magic the best. Even BB had better magic builds than DS3.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Nude_Bikergirl
It really doesn't. It's not like they lose money for each copy that gets pirated. There can be 1 pirated copy or a million pirated copies, it literally doesn't matter one bit. Or are you one of those idiots who thinks each pirated copy somehow takes money out of their bank account?

Emberburn
Emberburn

@CouchChiller
Because the game has become casual souls prepare to summon edition. I'd imagine the next dark souls will just reuse all its assets from dark souls 3 as well.

FastChef
FastChef

Bloodborne > Dark Souls 3

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@CouchChiller
why should from bother with exclusives?

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Burnblaze
He's right though.

DaS3 has dropped to 89 now btw.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@TechHater
BB is the best because I say so
What kind of retort did you expect?

Spamalot
Spamalot

@King_Martha
I didn't pay for it
So it didn't lose money!

Okay

whereismyname
whereismyname

@SniperGod
Do fat people really get sweat under their manboobs? That's fucking gross.

takes2long
takes2long

@Harmless_Venom
worst magic
It's just balanced for PVE and not retardely broken.
Sniping people with Soul Stream and Obscuring Ring is fun though.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@CouchChiller
a game that is available on PS4, X1 and PC has outsold a PS4 exclusive

No shit sherlock.

Why should From bother with exclusives?
'Cause Sony pays them.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@whereismyname
Yes, women also get sweat under their womanboobs.
Tits are overrated.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Spamalot
He thinks Dark Souls 3 didn't make money
This is how a sony pony's mind works.

girlDog
girlDog

@Stupidasole
So angry user. Would a link to a petition calm you down?

likme
likme

@SniperGod
muh metacritic
I guess LoZ OOT is the best game ever?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Bidwell
But this is the last dark souls

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@King_Martha
That's a sale they could of had, so yes they lose money. I'd imagine this mentality floats around the lower tier of society. Silly poor fags these days...

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Poker_Star
Sometimes I wonder how people who frequent a board that's supposedly about video games understands so little about how they are made. Sony paid for Fromsoftware to make Bloodborne. It was probably a great deal for them because it takes away a lot of the risk of investment and also they get a lot of support developing the game. Also Sony owns Bloodborne as an IP so you will not see it ported unless someone buys it from them which, is highly unlikely. They're probably developing Bloodborne 2 as we speak.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@New_Cliche
Who said that?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@takes2long
balanced
absolute garbage for 90% of the game
pretty much hard mode compared to virtually any melee build

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@RavySnake
des 500k in a year
das1 2.3m in two years
look nigger some people played des but das1 is what got souls popular
@Stark_Naked
the community was better before people with eyes showed up
ok

viagrandad
viagrandad

@New_Cliche
Please explain how anything in my post implied that. Go ahead I'll wait.

askme
askme

@girlDog
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/xcom24ps4
Here's one :^)

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Spamalot
Download five thousand copies of dark souls
From loses $200,000
That's how it works right?

WebTool
WebTool

@BinaryMan
I'm more of a b cup guy partly for that reason honestly. But it's grosser when it's a fat dude than when it's a tit. Maybe because the tit is supposed to be there and the moob isn't.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@likme
No. The best game ever made is whatever first party game Nintendo has released most recently.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Evilember
encourage the users to buy other exclusives like Until Dawn, Uncharted 4, Tearaway, etc
Mine is still a BB machine. Waiting for FFXV and Deep Down (Is kill) though. Probably Ace Combat too, but the rest is just disappointing.

TechHater
TechHater

@likme
r-reviews don't matter

I can't even imagine the sheer amount of shitposting you faggots would do if DaS3 had a higher meta

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Ignoramus
absolute garbage for 90% of the game
Lol what?
I completed the game with a pure magic build with no issues, you just have to invest more in stats than the other games.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@viagrandad
The bit where you implied that I'm stupid for thinking that piracy doesn't lose them money and therefore implied that they actually DID lose money somehow.

Do you struggle with english son?

Flameblow
Flameblow

@hairygrape
They didn't earn it so you're enjoying those copies without From getting anything in return. I suppose you think you can walk into a buffet and eat food without anyone noticing and that doesn't matter either right?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Which area marks the halfway point of ds3?
Just got to boreal valley and been playing for about 10 hours.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Ignoramus

I am glad magic is shit. Magic is for losers who don't like to think and just want pew pew without working for the kill.

takes2long
takes2long

@TechHater
abhorent story
what

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Flameblow
pirating is stealing
If I walked into a buffet and cloned all the food I was going to eat and left the originals there, then nobody would give a shit
fuck off

Skullbone
Skullbone

@askme
using Xcom 2 as a boast.

My sides.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Illusionz
losing part of your money = not making money
Are you ok user? I think you should go get some sleep.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@VisualMaster
Boreal Valley

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@takes2long
fake review someone shat out on photoshop

Snarelure
Snarelure

@BinaryMan
That's hot.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Sharpcharm
Your logic is astounding I'm not even mad. You do you user.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Sir_Gallonhead
A game that sells 500k in a year IS popular.
DaS was a big success mainly because it's the spiritual sequel of a successful game.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@PurpleCharger
you just have to invest more in stats than the other games.
not really. i ended ng in ds 1 with 40int, ds2 with 32 and ds3 with 35. even without the boost ring, the magic damage scale nicely. unless you encounter enemies with high magic resistence. but that's what raw weapons are for.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@TechHater
cherrypicking
Were you trying to make some kind of point here?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@CouchChiller
it might have outsold blood souls but the thing is sony pays for the exclusive so they might earn more from exclusive money + sales than only sales

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Carnalpleasure
It is abhorrent, in a good way.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Lunatick
Only because bosses have fuck all HP

iluvmen
iluvmen

@MPmaster
It sold ps4's dumbass

Flameblow
Flameblow

@VisualMaster
piracy loses them money
Okay, put on your big boy pants and explain the logic behind that.

Show me logical reasoning that does not rely on assumptions, your gut feelings or any other bullshit and I will admit you are right and that I am wrong.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

What the fuck is wrong with ps4 owners?

They get shit for games and when a literal masterpiece in BB is released they don't buy it.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@TalkBomber
I'm not the one who equates copying to stealing motherfucker
it may be wrong depeding on your perspective but there is one thing it is not; and that is stealing

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@TurtleCat
they are fucking dump
one guy from my college has every single one playstation consoles and he was playing only the last of us and the new order on ps4

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Exclusives never sell as much as multiplatform, this is something that isn't surprising.

Why do developers do it? Numerous reasons, companies obviously pays a lot of money for exclusivity if they are a big name, but being a big name they can likely make more money selling it multiplatform then the money offered for exclusivity.

So the real reason? Building bridges, by routinely making exclusive deals, they open up opportunities in the future. The benefits for this is to long for one post, but Sony and Fromsoftware have a more cozy relationship, Sony will be willing invest in future projects and keeping the company afloat.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@TurtleCat
Most players like dudebro/commercial games. This is true for every platform.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@TurtleCat
99% of ps4 owners are casuals that would rather play fifa

Supergrass
Supergrass

@iluvmen
What does that have to with From?
And hell, CoD sold more PS4s than it

Emberfire
Emberfire

@TurtleCat
It's the go - to normie console of the generation. I'm kinda surprised BB sold 2 millions.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@TurtleCat
99% of ps4 owners are casuals that don't even know about fifa

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Skullbone
never ever

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Flameblow
Someone is using thier product, which they used man hours and a budget to make, and From does not receive revenue from the product making back the budget and justifying creating the product in the first place.

Is this really so hard to understand?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

>>336590708
@LuckyDusty
@GoogleCat
@Lord_Tryzalot

Does this not prove PC gamers are more deserving of a well crafted game like Bloodborne then shit eating CoD playing PS4 players?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@TurtleCat
99% of ps4 owners are casuals that masturbate to fifa

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Emberfire
It's also the go-to console in Japan.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@ZeroReborn
No, why?

Methshot
Methshot

quality =/= quantity
By OPs logic, Call of Duty is the best game ever made, because it sells the best.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@ZeroReborn
Pcucks have good taste
Then why the most played games on pc are the fucking cancer killing videogames?

Booteefool
Booteefool

@ZeroReborn
I'm idort and I have to agree. If BB was on PC I'd probably would have sold my PS4 by now.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@TurtleCat
1% of ps4 owners are skillful players that would rather play sf5

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Methshot
Quote where I said that. My point is that multiplats nearly always bring more revenue than exclusives. Do you think From doesn't like money?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@ZeroReborn
Considering 99% of PC users are playing LoL or Dota, no

TechHater
TechHater

@Methshot
No you fucking mongoloid if IW made an xbone exclusive cod and it sold worse than the other ones then there would be a comparison somewhere but you're just literally shitposting.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Gigastrength
Do you think From doesn't like money?
They do, and they decided to make their game exclusive. They obviously know about the business better than you.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Deadlyinx
I didn't ask for a definition of pirating, I asked you to explain to me how it loses them money, which is different to not getting money they never would have gotten in the first place.

Is this really so hard to understand?

TreeEater
TreeEater

@TurtleCat

0.02% of PS3 owners are members of FIFA which is a requirement for purchasing BB.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@ZeroReborn
That's not the world we live in. Sony paid for exclusives so they get exclusives. If you want them you buy a sony console, if not no big deal.

I play on a pc and ps4 because sony always seems to get exclusives I want, I don't feel loyalty or attachment towards any company really.

I didn't want a 3ds but they got monster hunter so I bought one and it's still the only game I own for it but I have 250 hours in it. Feels worth it to me.

In terms of taste, I think pc has some really fantastic under the radar games. It's a shame so many of them play garbage like dota lol and csgo.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@TurtleCat
People have different tastes. Plus the game was full price most places until very recently. Games like cod or fifa drop in price after the holidays. I know personally I refuse to buy single player games for 60 dollars.
@ZeroReborn
No because the most played games on PC are f2p moba trash. It's unfortunate but that's just how it is.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@King_Martha
Then why don't they only do Sony exclusives? You know their next game is multiplat right?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@SomethingNew
you literally can't get hit if you just keep rolling
I hate this meme.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Lord_Tryzalot
What does that have to do with anything that the other user asked?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@King_Martha
You know their next game is multiplat right?
[citation needed]

5mileys
5mileys

@Dreamworx
I'm not saying BB or DaS3... but let's not pretend they give a fuck about taking risks. The past few games have been super safe, playing the exact same mechanics and in DaS2 and 3's case, actively retconning the exact same story, and tons of redone bosses/characters.

The soulsborne series is one of the safest series I've ever seen made. They seldom take a risk. The only two risks they ever took was DeS and DaS1. And even DaS1 took elements from the former in tandem.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@King_Martha
Do you think whatever Sony gave them makes up for potentially millions of lost sales? And potentially lost fans who won't buy the future entries of the series because they're unhappy with exclusivity? The only reason BB was exclusive is because they were taking a risk and needed a safety net. Now that they have boatloads of money from the entire souls series (which is mostly multiplat by the way), they don't have to worry about the risk so much so their next game is going to be multiplat as well. If exclusives brought in more money than multiplats, why would they do this?

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Gigastrength
Oh wow, seems like you know nothing about licencing and how contracts work at all, but i won't blame you for your ignorance. Just stay quiet please.

And you talk about money again, what does this have to do with the actual games? Do you rate a game on it's mainstream success and how much money it made?

Are you that much of a tool?

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Gigastrength
I'm kinda surprised BB sold 2 millions

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Garbage Can Lid
blood born is technically the 4th game in the series, with ds3 being the 5th.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Evilember
That's possible, but I'm sure you have actual numbers to use as evidence.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Stark_Naked
Don't make me post the webm. Because I don't have it. But you know rolls in 3 are bullshit.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@CouchChiller
There's are no reasons to other than financial or maybe company culture and obviously exclusivity deals. Souls games aren't that graphically demanding, not that they don't look great thanks to the design, and basically just need a controller.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@5mileys
I'd say BB was a bit of a risk. Potentially pissing off shieldfags. Having a massive story switch halfway through with no previous indication was like a lesser version of the Raiden reveal in MGS2.

Generally Fromsoft takes a risk then plays it safe for a bit.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Snarelure
I don't think you know a business revolves around money you stupid fuck. Do you think From makes games from the kindness of their hearts?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@5mileys
They seldom take a risk
You mean Miyazaki seldom takes a risk. What is das 2

Lunatick
Lunatick

I wish the LoC helm was black like in these pictures and not dull grey

DeathDog
DeathDog

@AwesomeTucker
Sturgeon's law means no one deserves anything
user I *need* good games even though I don't deserve them, and no I don't play p2w or moba's (not that there's anything wrong with players who do)

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Supergrass
You know I don't, that's the point. You only need to compare the sales between the rest of the series and Bloodborne to infer confidently that souls games which are multiplat sell more than souls games which are exclusive.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@King_Martha
user has ps4 and PC
game is released as ps4 exclusive
user has to buy
game is multiplat
user can pirate

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@lostmypassword
Do you think whatever Sony gave them makes up for potentially millions of lost sales? And potentially lost fans who won't buy the future entries of the series because they're unhappy with exclusivity?
Yes, that's why they accepted to do it.
so their next game is going to be multiplat as well
See @AwesomeTucker
exclusives brought in more money than multiplats
Brought more money to Bamco, they own the copyright.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Emberfire
Not really when they hamfisted in mechanics to make up for it so well. The auto-healing, the gun parry that ensures safe parry distance half the time, and super fast dodges that essentially allow one to spam dodge and never really care as much as Souls games and super fast stamina regen with no cooldown for regen from 0 stamina. I mean, I would say they made up for no shield pretty substantially.

The story is definitely unique compared to their other games. But again, they didn't risk anything, Sony did with BB.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

I can't tell if sonyponies are legitimately this retarded, or if PCucks got better over time at false flagging as buttmad sonyponies. Which is it, Sheeky Forums?

Playboyize
Playboyize

@New_Cliche
No, you don't. You don't know if it was worth it for them to go exclusive for Bloodborne or not because we'll never know what the sales for multiplat would have looked like and we also don't know how much they were paid to go exclusive in the first place. We just don't have enough information. As for the citation, it's in an unlisted video on from's channel which I forgot to favorite so I can't bring it up right now. I'm sure someone else has it and can post.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@AwesomeTucker
[citation needed]
he didn't saw the video
lol

Techpill
Techpill

@New_Cliche
Bamco do not own the Dark Souls IP. They only have publishing rights, and only in the west.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Playboyize
Do you think that Sony blackmailed them to do something so unprofitable?
Also http://www.designntrend.com/articles/63985/20151103/bloodborne-dark-souls-from-software-sony-jrpg-bloodborne-2.htm

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Spazyfool
Most people buy a PS4 for CoD and Fifa

lol,so true,but only normie casual ppl do this,so they kinda not count in Sheeky Forums

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@New_Cliche
game one, two, and three bring in three million dollars
game four brings in five hundred thousand dollars
lol but it doesn't matter because the publisher will take a cut

Techpill
Techpill

@TreeEater
Post it.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@PurpleCharger
I agree they made up for it. But that's not what shieldkids wanted to hear. You can find testimonials all over the internet of people getting fucking wrecked. Trophy data shows something like 40% of people never beat the first boss.

They put arguably the hardest section of the game right at the start as a sort of trial by fire. Instead of the undead asylum you get fucking central yharnam.

One last thing, I don't understand what's hamfisted about any of the mechanics, I honestly think you just used that term as a substitute for saying *thing I don't like*. Rally encourages aggression and fits in with the lore of blood healing wounds. The parry fits the game nicely I think and forces you to stand still in a game where that is a dangerous thing to do, the dodge needs to be as good as it is to match up with the enemy design. They wanted the game to be faster and so they made it and the mechanics around it faster.

Maybe I'm just missing what's ham fisted about setting a goal and achieving it or maybe you can enlighten me.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Playboyize
how much they were paid to go exclusive
They weren't paid to 'go exclusive', they were paid to make a game for a publisher who made it exclusive, it wouldn't exist if Sony hadn't approached From.

MPmaster
MPmaster

be a PCuck
borrow flatmate's PS4
play Bloodborne for free
Did I pirate a console game? How much money did From lose because of me?

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Illusionz
And that is related to Japan, how? Does it not have casuals? Is the ps4 selling gorillions to non casuals there? Did BB sold 1M alone in Japan?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Raving_Cute
Trophy data shows something like 40% of people never beat the first boss
That's true for most games

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