Jiraiya is the most stupid character in the whole thing

StonedTime
StonedTime

Jiraiya is the most stupid character in the whole thing
says all three students child of prophecy
wrong two times

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Skullbone
Skullbone

Jiraiya was an OK variation on "pervert teacher"

The problem was that kishimoto couldnt think of an original plotline for pein.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

When the Naruto manga ended, I really hoped these threads would end too.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Give him credit, he was one of the few to die and actually stay dead

Techpill
Techpill

@Need_TLC
honestly I would prefer if he got revived to Zabuza or asuma. Those were just pathetic chapters.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@StonedTime
Fuck off Narutard.

farquit
farquit

Jiraiya was fine. Post chuunin exam had several interesting characters, the story was just shit.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Need_TLC
pretty unfair, actually. But I respect that. Most of the zombers needed some closure, and that was given to them. Jiraiya didn't need that.

I can't forgive Zabuza and Haku, though. Seven swordsman, fine. Better late than ever, I suppose, but bringing them back just to learn what they already knew, that's just terrible

Techpill
Techpill

@farquit
according to interviews all the interesting plotlines were "suggested" by the editor.

Kishimoto could mak decent characters, and draw well enough. But he couldnt write for shit, and that was the downfall of the series once the editor lost control

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@TurtleCat
The ride never ends, user. We were foolish to hope that it would.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@StonedTime
To be fair, when you have a ridiculous set of students like he eid, its understandable to be wrong kultiple times.

One guy solo'd an entire war.
The other guy has the fucking Rinnegan
The last one was, well, the MC.

iluvmen
iluvmen

Were there any special conditions for learning Sage Mode? Because I like to think that learning it was the one of the few things that Naruto did without his massive chakra reserves/fox chakra.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@iluvmen
it was supposedly hard to do but might turn you into a frog

TechHater
TechHater

Stop with your fucking 24/7 general, Narutards.

WebTool
WebTool

fuck off narutatds

DeathDog
DeathDog

@iluvmen
What type of sage was hashirama

Techpill
Techpill

@iluvmen
You need to control Nature chakra well I guess it depends on talent and compatibility.

If you don't you get an imperfect transformation with animal features(frog in this case) while the perfect form gives you only the color around the eyes.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@StonedTime
I think the 3rd has Jiraiya beat.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Techpill
Man sage mode was really one of the best hypest power up to come out of this series.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@StonedTime
Well, to be fair one turned out to be the father of the real child of prophecy and the other one had the eyes that ninja God had (and he had no way of knowing that they were just transplants)

girlDog
girlDog

@Techpill
I always thought that it was bullshit , Minato could use a perfect sage mode. Even with the whole "longer charging time", I think it would've been better to give nardo credit and have his dad use an imperfect form like his teacher.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@PurpleCharger
Well Naruto did go from slightly above Sakura tier to the strongest person in the village after learning it

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@girlDog
Well Minato was a genuine genius so It's ok I guess.
Also he was nerfed being an edo tensei

cum2soon
cum2soon

Aside from jiraiya, anyone know where to download this shit?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@kizzmybutt
and missing an arm

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@kizzmybutt

nerfed

He only got rekt by Madara. Sheer power was the only reason the four Hokages seemed as they did against ten tails Obito.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@cum2soon
@CouchChiller
@Spazyfool
the dubs tho

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Need_TLC
Funny how Kishi said he couldn't edo tensei him because he didn't how Naruto would react, but he could still edo tensei Itachi and Minato.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Techpill
Minato having access to sage mode was such bullshit - not to mention perfect sage mode.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@SniperGod
Was Naruto really only slightly above Sakura at that point in the story? I'm pretty sure he was head over heels above the grand majority of the village because of his rasen shuriken shit.

Techpill
Techpill

@BunnyJinx
Rasen Shuriken was a massively fucking unwieldy technique (not that Sage Mode wasn't at first), was incredibly difficult to hit with and fucked Naruto's arm up when he used it.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Who's ready for best girl filler?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@BunnyJinx
He always had more latent power, but it felt like he was more or less on equal grounds with Sakura until that point.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@StonedTime
toads teach him how to be superhuman
a fuckhuge one tells him a prophecy, presumably about him teaching a child of prophecy
one he teaches has magical eyes that humble the (normal) sharingan, lets the guy learn all the elements and have a bunch of weird abilities from controlling gravity to growing a cyborg arm that shoots lasers
the other is a prodigy who by himself takes out a whole fucking army, was probably the youngest at the time of his becoming a Hokage
It's fairly understandable that if you are told you will teach a child of fucking prophecy, it will be one of those two.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@cum2soon
Here's Hinata grappling with feelings of wanting to fuck her son: http://www.narutoforums.com/showpost.php?p=54260472&postcount=1885

And here's Burrito playing dress up while his Ghost Dad does paperwork: http://www.narutoforums.com/showpost.php?p=54263342&postcount=1916[s/poiler]

You can tell that Sauce showed up because he could smell the residual nardo musk off his jacket.

5mileys
5mileys

@Lunatick
Who greenlighted Boruto running off to join Sasuke, fight aliens, and save Naruto?

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Carnalpleasure
I wonder if they really are going to try and pull off a filler episode for each (semi-major/liked) character in the dream world.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Skullbone
I'm hoping they atleast start jamming multiple character's dream into episodes. This shit has gone on long enough. I'm just going to check it out because I always wanted more bitchnata.

takes2long
takes2long

@5mileys
Who greenlighted Boruto running off to join Sasuke, fight aliens, and save Naruto?
Sauce, Gaara and mommy.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Skullbone
So far it's just two: one for 10/10 and one for B. Weird characters to pick, I know.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Raving_Cute
I can see them trying to get over minor and relatively uninteresting shit like Kiba's dream fast, unless they make it a gag episode.
Then there's real sad shit like Tsunade's dream, and if 10/10 got hers expanded and Bee a whole new one invented for him, Orochimaru is bound to get his, which is probably going to be interesting.
I just hope they do right by Shino for once and make something good with him. Poor creepy nigga deserves better.

Snarelure
Snarelure

Naruto's return is slowed down like crazy
The portrayal of his new attacks were lackluster as fuck
These dream sequences took 1-2 pages tops, because they held no relevance to the plot

Does the anime studio even care that they are butchering the shit out of what made these chapters cool as fuck in the manga?

farquit
farquit

@Snarelure
Aside from the filler everything else is ok.

I don't know what the hell you want from a 500 episode anime

FastChef
FastChef

@farquit
Yeah I get that it's supposed to be drawn out for more screen time, but it just does not produce a good product. One of my gripes was in the manga Naruto's revival was exciting because he shows up, saves Gai, and fucks up Madara's shit while discovering his new powers. In the anime Naruto is revived, goes back the regular world, saves Gai, looks around for a while, and throws a half hearted rasenshuriken. I know it doesn't sound like much here, but the anime lacked the excitement that was conveyed in the manga.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@farquit
Not him, but some actually well animated fights would be nice. It's been ages since I saw it, but the Kakuzu fight for instance, something much more low key and technically less important was far, far better animated than this shit.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@LuckyDusty
Doujins when?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Boy_vs_Girl
Well like I said, it's a 500 episode anime. More if you count first part.
Also i'm pretty sure they're going to adapt the LNs after the main story is done(something I'm looking forward to actually), then the Gaiden.
Hell, they'll probably re-tell THE LAST and BORUTO THE MOVIE.

@FastChef
I get this, but most anime is like that. That's why manga is superior 99,9% of the time. Naruto is not an exception and the fact that it's an anime with 10+ years on it's belt makes it have even more sense.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Skullbone
The problem was that kishimoto couldnt think of an original plotline for pein.
fuck, everytime I read or watch about pein's and nagato's plotline, I forget it. it's just how stupid and unremarkable it is. I remember a lot of details on a lot of other, smaller characters, but I always mix up and forget what were pein and nagato on about.

Evilember
Evilember

@Snarelure
Dunno why but Naruto never gets good doujins.

Or at least we never get them scanlated. I'd like mom-son doujins a lot.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Snarelure
I don't even care about the main series anymore tbh. I want SP to get through this as fast as they can so we can see Burrito's adventures.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

When did Naruto go from being an interesting tale about a fuck up who overcomes shitty situations using his wicked tactics, to being about wizards who have powers relating to balls?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Raving_Cute
I wonder this Neji is also perv too like in the RtN

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Gigastrength
about when 4th shinobi world war started.

kishimoto just buffed and buffed everyone to Allah level of power. and so we have 3-5 Allah-tier fucks and 10 strong folks and the rest are trash.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Lunatick
Wasn't the full movie leaked tho? I've been seeing shit recently about how the dubbed version got leaked.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Evilember
Same here especially ones with a bit femdom in it

Firespawn
Firespawn

@VisualMaster
Hell, they'll probably re-tell THE LAST and BORUTO THE MOVIE.
Would it not be simpler to just show the films on TV?
It's been almost a year since the Last already, and given the current pace I would not be surprised if in a year we still haven't cleared the main manga's story.
Funny thing is, if they just stuck with a better pace they could have just made a whole season or two of stories focusing on The Last's era, shit with the Ninja UN, some light gag episodes and whatnot and people would have watched that shit much more than that slog of a war arc, if SP made the slightest fucking effort not to make it suck.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@StonedTime
Since this is a naruto thread, I might as well ask. If Yamato were to get Sharingan implants, would he unlock the Rinnegan?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@King_Martha
I'd say it actually started when Naruto learned the rasengan. Which the rasengan, what the fuck was it even supposed to be? In theory a ball of dense energy rotating at a high rate should rip through anything it touches, but instead was retconned into being a close quarters kameha.

Methshot
Methshot

@Gigastrength
The moment he started tapping into the Nine tailed Fox as rent.
The moment his entire goal became "beat the opponent by brute forcing them with my superior reserves." all semblance of tactics was lost on him.

Occasionally against the God-tier people he'd need to bust out some fake-outs but if Naruto wasn't God-tier, none of his opponents feasibly would be either as a necessity to keep the relative power balance.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@ZeroReborn
No. He's not Indra or Ashura reincarnated.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@ZeroReborn
Only transmigrations of Indra and Asura can unlock Rinnegan.

Madara(Indra) got Hashirama cells(Asura) and unlocked his.
Sasuke got his rinnegan because Hagoromo gave it to him.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Raving_Cute
Is that Road to Ninja Hinata? What the heck is going on in the anime now?

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Dreamworx
10/10's greatest dream is to make Lee and Gai chill and to bring Neji back to life
she also wants to discover that Neji was taking each and every opportunity to peep on her with his magic eyes
she never dared to make a move and kept on hoping that he'd just snap one day and savagely fuck her in all her holes
her dream has finally come true, but people broke the dream world
now she's stuck with having, yet having not lived out her fantasy
she'll just be a bored weapon and ninja supplies store owner who spikes genin's soldier pills with ninja viagra and aphrodisiacs instead

Inmate
Inmate

@ZeroReborn
If that was possible Obito would've gotten Rinnegan in like a few years since he had a HUGE compatibility with Zetsu.
Seriously, dude had half body made of Hashirama cells and even his Sharingan never wore out(he never went blind and he used his MS even in the bathroom).

It's about this @BunnyJinx
@iluvmen

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@King_Martha
Allah level of power
Why did i laugh Estağfurullah

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Methnerd
IT sends 10/10 to the RtN world.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Carnalpleasure
probably our common turkic sense of humor :>

also requesting that le epic naruto pasta that was made into a banner

Emberburn
Emberburn

@iluvmen
Madara should have won
Fuck kishi
Fuck nigger zetsu
Fuck kaguya

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Even if you hated him, you have to admit that Sauce had some of the best fights in the series. Even if he got his ass whooped in like half of them.

Evilember
Evilember

@Emberburn
Fuck kaguya
Would you Sheeky Forums?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Gigastrength
It was never about that. nardo was always OP as fuck and relied on the fox whenever he faced overwhelming odds.

And they were always wizards. Ever since the Land of Waves they were throwing around water dragons and shit.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Emberburn
true
hihi haha I am now Allah I am literally invincible I have all power in the world I can drop meteorite you all ded lmao

and he still somehow lost

very bad

@Raving_Cute
me personally, I came when Kakashi and Obito fought hand to hand in pocket universe or whatever

it looked so good it almost felt it wasnt naruto. probably because they had time to work on that episode, since it was like 7 fillers before that

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Raving_Cute
I realize I'm in the minority here but Susanoo is one of my favorite techs in the series, so yeah, I agree.

It was out of place as fuck, but man, giant samurai chakra mech is just too fucking over the top not to like.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Sharpcharm
There is no dubbed version available. Hell, there isn't even a subbed one yet. All we've got so far are these brief snippets.

@Firespawn
Would it not be simpler to just show the films on TV?
I'd watch the hell out of it.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Gigastrength
Wasn't it supposed to be a manga about wizards from the get go? But Kishi's editor didn't think a wizard manga would sell in the current climate?

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Emberburn
Fuck Kaguya

HARD

@Evilember
You know it

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Ignoramus
I like it too, but there should have been a better explanation other than two Mangekyous lol

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Evilember
Yup. I'd fuck her so hard the Eight Gates turns my dick to dust. I'd fuck her so hard she'd burn through all her Chakra just regenerating. I'd die with no regrets.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@cum2soon
Bunny-chan should have just chilled out, had some ramen, took a bath and then visited a fuckhouse to unwind a couple thousand years worth of pent-up frustration and stress.

Inmate
Inmate

@Gigastrength
@King_Martha
@Poker_Star
FIRST PAGE FIRST CHAPTER

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@w8t4u
shit man, oh well. Thanks anyway bruv.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Emberburn
MFW we find out that weve just been reading Naruto's version of Mugen Tsukiyomi
No happy endings, he was just asleep in his dream world where everyone loves him and he made his primary dream of bringing the Sauce home. Also letting Kabuto and Orochimaru and get away with shittons of War Crimes.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Did Naruto have the worst final arc in manga?

w8t4u
w8t4u

@haveahappyday
Did you mean the worst gateway of anime one?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@PurpleCharger
Kenichi's final arc wishes it was Kaguya Strikes Back good.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@VisualMaster
@VisualMaster
pr00fs?

King_Martha
King_Martha

@PurpleCharger
Would that be the war arc or does Sausage's last chimpout count as an arc unto itself?
Because nothing was quite as bad as the war arc.
The final chapter was good to see though.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@PurpleCharger
I'd say Gantz's was a bit worse.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@whereismyname
No proof. Just would be a great ending if Kishimoto should decide to retcon it for the inevitable release of Naruto Shippuden Super

SniperGod
SniperGod

@King_Martha
I think nothing surpassed the four of sound vs kiba, neji, chouji etc. most epic series of episodes, and it wasnt even shippuuden

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@ZeroReborn
What the fuck is this guy role in the whole story?
We didn't even see any of his 1v1

Techpill
Techpill

@iluvmen
Funnily enough you had to have massive chakra reserves to be able to pull in enough of the stuff without it turning you immediately into a stone frog.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@PurpleCharger
Not even close.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@PurpleCharger
Bleach's is pretty bad.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Poker_Star
Nope the fights in Kenichi's last arc are better than Naruto so it wins by default.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Stark_Naked
He never really had any roles after the Pain arc. Kakashi took his spot back.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Booteefool
the fight vs Senzui and Hongo was a chapter long.

Yeah no. Go for a walk. That arc was rushed as shit and all the build up for the fights we were going to get never happened.

At the very least Naruto's pacing wasn't breakneck speed and actively avoiding every fight the fanbase wanted.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Stark_Naked
He was suppose to be able to suppress Kurama's charka thus stopping Naruto from chimping out.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Stark_Naked
He was introduced just to have something new and so that there is someone who can take control back when Naruto goes 4 tails. Funny considering how later the sharingan was made out to be the best tool to control such a beast.
If anything I'd have had Neji lead that team and instead of Sai I'd have brought along someone from the original cast too.
Yamato and Sai really did not need to exist.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Methnerd
IT happened and now we are all stuck in everlasting filler. This time it's RTN from tenten's perspective.

Also means we get to see non-edgy Menma.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Techpill
It's something within the human scope, at least, otherwise Jiraiya could not have done it.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@DeathDog
Yamato's cool and without Sai there's no Inojin

idontknow
idontknow

@Emberburn
Not the other guy but Kenichi had nipples and ass shots. I'd take that over the whole war arc in Naruto.

5mileys
5mileys

@Evil_kitten
Hinata
shy, gentle, kind and quiet
probably becomes assertive and energetic in bed

Bitchnata
loud, territorial knows what hers and tells everyone out to get it to fuck right off
is probably shy as fuck when it comes to real bedroom stuff and has to be comforted and loved the most tender way you can

Which is better?

w8t4u
w8t4u

@VisualMaster
MFW we find out that weve just been reading Naruto's version of Mugen Tsukiyomi

But his parents are still dead, and Lee is not to anyone's knowledge a closet tranny.

poor Hinata might never know that Naruto wants some rough love from her

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@idontknow
Shigure was the best part of the series but I still stand by my statement that there isn't enough nipple and ass in a shonen magazine which can salvage Kenichi's last arc even when Shigure was naked for 96% of it.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Ignoramus
Yamato's cool
He has his moments, granted, but really did not need to exist at all and was ballast for most of the show.
without Sai there is no Inojin
Can't make an omelet etc. It would also give Ino the chance to produce offspring that does not look like an alien.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Evil_kitten
I hope they make MenmaxBitchnata canon just for those delicious NS tears.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@SniperGod
This.

FastChef
FastChef

@5mileys
Kinda makes you wonder how their kids turned out in the RtNverse.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@PurpleCharger
Yes because Kishi fucked one of the best characters in series in the hardest way possible.

I remember when I read this chapter. That was the first time I had actually been excited for a Naruto chapter in a very very long time.

Fuck me, right?

5mileys
5mileys

@JunkTop
rip in peace actually good Madara
At least we got a pretty sick final Battle.
The anime adaptation will be nothing short of amazing r-right?

Emberburn
Emberburn

@GoogleCat
MenmaxBitchnata
Someone post THAT pic.
You know which one.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@JunkTop
The tailed beast fail hard at looking threatening, they are cute.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@5mileys
The anime adaptation will be nothing short of amazing r-right?
I have very little hope. The animation has been shit since Kakashi vs Obito and that was a year ago, I think.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@iluvmen
You needed at least kage level reserves and someone who already knows it to reach you.

Natuto got his chakra reserves from his Uzumaki bloodline and from hosting the fox, and got a teacher from being the some of the Fourth/ Toad Sannins student.

So no, he got to be a sage because of who he was, not through training or effort just like all his other abilities.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@FastChef
RtN Burrito is probably a shy introverted pussy and RtN Himawari is as aggressive as her mother but secretly a kitten.

WebTool
WebTool

@StonedTime
tfw you realize Jiraiya's one of the most OP characters in the show
tfw we'll never see him fight Madara in his prime

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@haveahappyday
I wonder when he'll pass that shit onto his son. He's already got larger-than-normal reserves due to his lineage. And those Hyuuga genes let him master nature infused Rasengans in less than a month with no prior training or idea of what he was doing.

And someone needs to strangle Salad's puppy so she can get MS already.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Emberburn
user wants it.
user delivers it!

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Bidwell
I know it was that which fucked the powerlevels far out of proportion, but Naruto should have made buddies with Kurama much earlier just so we could have had some friendly, assholish and occasionally tsundere banter.
I decide to let you handle an enemy by yourself for once and you try to beat him with a fucking fart? I guess I'll just have to be kind and let you borrow my power in the future too.
hey! hey! Naruto? hey! I think Ino would enjoy being pissed on
come on, kid, try to take off Kakashi's mask, what's the worst that could happen?
how fucking dense can you be? that vixen really wants to have your cubs, the fuck is up with human mating?
hey, I'm kinda sealed off in here, could you eat a raw rabbit every now and then and send it down here?
man, just looking at that guy makes me worried I have fleas, you sure he did't get one on you?
did that cunt really try to fake a mating call? stupid fucking cunt, she's giving off a completely wrong smell.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@LuckyDusty
Delicious suffering

MPmaster
MPmaster

@GoogleCat
Sarada's MS

YFW you realize Sakura can now be killed off.

takes2long
takes2long

@LuckyDusty
And heres a bit more higher resolution

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Lunatick
Calm down, Satan.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@takes2long
@LuckyDusty
Did their child die, or what?
Why would anyone make that?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@LuckyDusty
I don't get it. Why are they sad?

5mileys
5mileys

@StonedTime
I dunno
Its either some butthurt shiper or fucked up nip

Inmate
Inmate

@MPmaster
Don't worry user, uncle Orochi will develop a drug that triggers MS artificially
@Raving_Cute
2deep4you

hairygrape
hairygrape

@StonedTime
Probably one of them is sterile.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@MPmaster
If SP continues the series I want that to be the plot to a future movie. Uchiha just aren't the same without a healthy dose of DARKNESS and it'd be the only possible thing they could do to redeem Pink.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@takes2long
Just make one out of Hashirama cells and stop crying, you big bitchy baby.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@StonedTime
@Raving_Cute
Spontaneous abortion is a thing

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Raving_Cute
Too much malasion airlines destroyed Bitchnata's uterus or their child got stillborn

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Nude_Bikergirl
Millennia old demon speaks like an underage faggot with a few 'fox' bits thrown in despite him merely looking like one and sharing no other features and having never met one
Your idea is bad fanfic levels of shit

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Evil_kitten
So will this stop all the crappy fanart with black haired menma?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Inmate
No! (S)he can't take this from me!

Playboyize
Playboyize

@SniperWish
I hope so
His outfit was bishie as fuck too

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@haveahappyday
He/She/Zi/It got away with everything, of course he take that from you.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Raving_Cute
@Evil_kitten
I wonder how 1010 is gonna react
Is she gonna try to convince others that she is dreaming or she is going to beleive IT and the whole war thing was a bad dream?

Nojokur
Nojokur

@MPmaster
Damn, I'd like that to happen, but the monarchist in me needs Sasuke to have a son, the Uchiha dying off would suck.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Emberburn
If the Yamato episode is anything to go by she'll have a little bit of doubt but accept that everything is fine and dandy.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Nojokur
implying boruto and sarada isnt gonna create new house

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Nojokur
needs Sasuke to have a son
Sibling rivalries are the number 1 cause of death for Uchiha.

And Salad's not gonna be an Uchiha for much longer, let's face it.

massdebater
massdebater

@Nojokur
the Uchiha dying off would suck
The Uchiha should have died out before the series began or not existed at all. Also
monarchist in me
wat The Uchiha were a big name, elite clan like the Hyuuga or Senju at most, not actual royalty.
The feudal lords of the setting are muggles, no Kage has been an Uhiha so far (until Salad) and that system is some weird mix of naming your successor and the clans/elders electing someone they think appropriate.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@PurpleCharger
She will probably keep her last name like Kushina did.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Sir_Gallonhead
Yamato's dream was too mobile
Sections are moving too quickly before he get a grip on whole situation

viagrandad
viagrandad

@VisualMaster
Might as well kill Hinata too so they can finally make the "SN family" that most of the merchandize has focused on an actual thing.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@PackManBrainlure
Uzumaki is a much more famous and powerful name, why would she want to remain a filthy, backstabbing Uchiha?

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Gigastrength
original was about a loser who "trained hard" to become strong and become respected

sequel is about a character who wants to help/save another character and become someone who creates peace.

Both have alot of shitty moments but some good ones.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@viagrandad
Hinata is too beloved. Pink Shit is a much easier character to dispose of.

@PackManBrainlure
Probably. The world will be ruled by a combination of Uchiha and Uzumaki with a dash of Hyuuga. How horrifying.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@StonedTime
original
not op
not a faggot

/thread

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Firespawn
I disagree. It was exactly as a dream should be.

@Emberburn
And the third is about a kid who doesn't want to do anything his father or grandfather did.

massdebater
massdebater

@DeathDog
Ent (Tree Spirit) Sage.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@iluvmen
Having good chakra control do not speed up the training.
You still want to have a decent chakra pool so you can feel the edges. And avoid instant death(all those fucking statues)

And the only reason Naruto do not go beyond 3 clones is in case they do get popped, he does not die from Overload.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Sir_Gallonhead
Uzumaki is a much more famous and powerful name

Did you even read the manga?

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Sir_Gallonhead
If i were Boruto, i would try to kill Sarada by all costs. Seriously the Uchiha clan is the worst clan in the series

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Carnalpleasure
OH LAWDY 10/10 with TWINTAILS.

Please enlighten me on which episode this will be.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@hairygrape
You can't simply kill the Salad

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

So how long until pic related

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@hairygrape
I'am pretty sure burrito will end up fucking her

whereismyname
whereismyname

@hairygrape
hating best family

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Evil_kitten
To be fair:
one family struggled to not be oppressed by a village they helped found but were all but immediately pushed out of and proceeded to do fuck all for generations
They died out due to being so weak that two members of their own damn clan who both went crazy in one way or another could just off the whole lot. Their last offspring is a girl in severe danger of becoming a useless medic with retard strength, despite the clan being known for its visual prowess she needs glasses
the other is the founder of a village all by itself, a strong and trusted enough of an ally for Konoha to still brandish their logo decades after they are gone, being practically immortal and possessing sealing techniques strong enough to make the other villages shit themselves and try to kill them all off
They probably died out in glorious battle and their scions are still around, some of the most broken fuckers out there.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@hairygrape
He'll kill her genes instead. With his dick.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@haveahappyday
that two members of their own damn clan in one way or another could just off the whole lot.

Those two happened to be two of the strongest non-ninja-god-reincarnation characters of the series.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@DeathDog
That is one spicy Salad.

And is it just me or is Burrito trying to go Super Saiyan in that picture?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@BlogWobbles
One of the reasons I want SP to continue the series is so that we can eventually get long hair Salad.

Burrito you lucky son of a wonderful lady.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Crazy_Nice
maybe in 20 episodes?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Evil_kitten
Yes, did you?

hairygrape
hairygrape

@whereismyname
9/11 of these people are or at some point have been fucking crazy

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@cum2soon
They were still up against the clan with the most broken eyes in the series, did not use their biggest, most flashy moves and managed to kill the whole damn clan in silence.
That's more a testament to the Uchiha being pretty damn weak besides a few individuals here and there, rather than the strength of those two. I stand by my point.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@StonedTime
didn't even get any love

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@haveahappyday
And now we're gonna mix 'em together. With a dash of Hyuuga.

This shit's like diet Coke and Mentos + napalm.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@hairygrape
Like killing them actually does shit.
3 of those fucking bastards came back to life.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@hairygrape
9/11
Indrahu Akbar!

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Spamalot
They've even got their own prophet and crazy holy book with that stupid stone tablet written by a goo nigger.

Techpill
Techpill

So are you guys looking forward to the final fight? I herd rumors they started working on it months ago. do you want it in weekly epps? or just dump the final 3-4 epps all at once? like a mini movie?

Emberburn
Emberburn

@haveahappyday
useless medic with retard strength
Isn't Tsunade canonically the most powerful female ninja in the Nardoverse?

Nojokur
Nojokur

Who is going to get Sage mode next guys? Burrito? Sauce? Salad?

MPmaster
MPmaster

@haveahappyday
in severe danger of becoming a useless medic
Salad might be able to make something for herself, but her goals are relatively low compared to Boruto, who wants to surpass one of the strongest men in the world and follow in the footsteps of the other.

With her Sharingan she should easily surpass both her mother and Tsunade. She'll be one of the better Hokage, but not by much.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@GoogleCat
Find a single clan other than the Senju (if Hashirama is alive) that Itachi and Coolest Guy couldn't wipe out.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Nojokur
Toad for Burrito and Snek for Mitsuki.

Salad gets Byakugou + Slugs because fuck her.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@iluvmen
I love Pixiv.

likme
likme

@hairygrape
Who were the ones who weren't?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Burnblaze
Sauce come home for a visit few years down the track
Decides its time to train Salad up abit in some seacret Sharingan eyehax
Starts with controlling creatures
Summons a snake expecting her to make a contract with them
SaCuckra allready had her sign one with slugs
kek

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Lunatick
dat part I music

5mileys
5mileys

@MPmaster
probably 10 or so more episodes of the IT dreams depending on how many new ones they introduce and whether all of them will get an episode to itself
one more episode after those of Madara gloating, winding up for a final fight, then in the last few seconds, bam, TWEEST with Zetsu
another episode of Zetsu recapping the mythology of everything totally not made up on the spot as Kaguya emerges
between five and ten episodes of Kaguya fight, possibly broken up by another flashback filler because fuck you
at least a whole episode of cheer and heartfelt speeches before getting down to the business of reviving everyone, only to be cut off by Sausage breaking out his edge once more
hopefully a beautifully animated bit of him penetrating Sakura deeply, touching her heart
final fight, again between five and ten episodes, not counting the likely heavy amount of flashbacks to childhood and waxing philosophical about reincarnations and what to do with the world
that scene
epilogue and chapter 700
Knowing SP's pacing problems, I'd put it closer to between 30 and 40 episodes, really.

takes2long
takes2long

@Poker_Star
She could easily sign two contracts like Sauce did.

And slugs are actually better than Sauce's useless falcons.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Emberburn
Acid/lava spitting Christmas Cake Mizukage exists.
Not to mention Kaguya. Technically the bigass punches are really powerful and fearsome, but they never fucking hit anything, and when Sakura was somehow made to be able to connect that hit, instead of bashing in her skull and killing her outright, she just barely slowed Kaguya enough for Nardo and Sausage to do the men's work of sealing/killing her.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@haveahappyday
Actually, her being a medic would ironically make her more useful in the new age of dwindling military action; at least she'll always have a job.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@takes2long
She could easily sign two contracts like Sauce did.
Wait. you can do that? I thought it was a one at a time thing? Jesus this seris had so many cool points they never got fully dived into.
Actual Genjutsu other then Sharingan
Like... 8 people having summonings? most of which were the same fucking type
Naruto knowing any jutsu other then rasengan and shadow clones
Yeah the slugs are hella useful seeing as Sai exists to completly obsolete the need for air travel summons

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@FastChef
Like this

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@cum2soon
Does the Raikage family count? I know their main beef is with the Hyuuga for whatever reason, but they'd make those magic eye crackas eat some lightning.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Emberfire
She's already going to be ninja president. Tsunade only did extra medic stuff because there weren't any competent ninja medics when she came back to Konoha.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Burnblaze
Don't forget Bort also getting Sauce's prized Hawk summons.

And Himawari gets a panda because she's an asshole.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@SniperWish
I thought it was a one at a time thing?
He summoned a hawk against Danzo, then a snek against the juubi, then a hawk again against Kaguya.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@takes2long
falcons
useless
When you get blisters on 90% of your body because you decided to walk to Suna instead of fly, don't come crying to me.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@hairygrape
Go to bed, Brother.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Sharpcharm
but they never fucking hit anything
Hence the advantage of the Sharingan.

@Emberfire
she'll always have a job
Yeah. Giving healing handjobs to Burrito while he does all the heavy lifting.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Crazy_Nice
This joke was never even funny to begin with.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Skullbone
Hes the only person who has done it in the series then that was shown.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Naruto is just "Every Supporting Character is More Interesting than the Main Cast: The Anime". I dig the setting and most of the side characters, but almost none of them get any character development.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Sir_Gallonhead
Ill never understand how that 38 guy is still alive. Dude got Kunai to the chest way back when Orochimaru ganked Sarutobi

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Sir_Gallonhead
Design wise, Anko looks like she would be a major or important character. She does jack shit the entire series.

Evilember
Evilember

@Sir_Gallonhead
That's why I guiltily read fanfiction. Even though 99% of it is shit there are always a few that take the setting and characters and make something interesting.

FastChef
FastChef

@Sir_Gallonhead
The sad part is that you could easily just remove the tumor that is the Uchiha and the Uchiha-heavy plot parts (about 500 chapters), keep most of the main cast and have a new plot driven by the characters involved, and you'd have a fairly decent series on your hands.

Inmate
Inmate

@5mileys

Of all the fillers Naruto has had the recent ones weren't too bad (with a few exceptions).

I liked Kakashi's backstory and how it finally put everything in place.

Then again I was one of those retards that watched the Naruto (non-shippuden) fillers from episode 120-200 as they were airing.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Inmate
recent ones weren't too bad
Did you like the latest rerererererereretelling of Obito's story?
Fiver says we'll get to see something from it at least once more when he teleports his magic eyes back from the afterlife to loan to Kakashi.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Sir_Gallonhead
We get ULTIMATE NINJA GOD
He gets dwarfed in power level, at the least 7 times afterwards

@Inmate
Some of the fillers was decent.
Some was really good.
A minority was actually shit.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Firespawn
That's Madara, though. None can even touch Uchiha Madara.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@StonedTime
The only major sticking point for me with Jiraiyas character is that he didn't teach Naruto anything during the training trip.

idontknow
idontknow

@FastChef
Don't kid yourself, the issue isn't the characters. It's the terrible writing.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

there is a whole team made up of the son of Ninja Jesus, the daughter of the other Ninja Jesus, their odd ball teammate is the son of the immortal genius mentor of the other Ninja Jesus, and their master is the grandson of the second Ninja God and student of Ninja Jesus

Konoha the Village Hidden in Nepotism.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Boy_vs_Girl
Depends on Which Madara you are talking about.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@SomethingNew

I actually stopped watching Shipuuden around the time Naruto went 4 tails and fought Oorochimaru on the bridge, I picked it up again when someone told me Guy's 8th gate fight was animated.

That being said, if I have to see Obito help out another old lady, come late to a meeting, kiss that fucking picture or tell Kakashi the 'trash' story I'm gonna commit sudoku.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Carnalpleasure
Hidden

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Carnalpleasure
The only other team to graduate from what we could see are the trio groomed from birth to be a team.
Even if Naruto did not want to put those three together (and he clearly would have wanted to put them together), there were hardly other options.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Spamalot
Konohamaru is destined to be Hokage next, then Salad and then Mitsuki after Orochimaru mind controls him to wipe out the village

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Carnalpleasure

Basically if you aren't Uchiha/Uzumaki/Hyuuga, you're shit.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Evilember
you know some good ones?

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Sir_Gallonhead
I don't nor have I ever cared about any of these people.

@TurtleCat
kunai to the chest
There's your answer.

Methshot
Methshot

@ZeroReborn
Close but no. It is not Konohamaru that is going to be the next Hokage. It is a certain someone who is skilled enough to be entrusted to protect two of the strongest fighters in the Leaf Village.
They have the required levels of nepotism to become Hokage as well.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Spamalot
Why is Danzo getting so buttblasted?
It's not like he is innocent from this Jew bullshit.

The only reason why Hiruzen never killed him is because he was his friend and he is only on the council because he was trained by the 2nd.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Supergrass
Right now reading Dreaming of Sunshine.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Boy_vs_Girl
None can even touch Uchiha Madara
Vanishing Rasengan would like to have a word with you.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Methshot
Mirai is cute.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Sir_Gallonhead
This. I would have been hyped if anko had gotten more time than that ocean filler arc.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@GoogleCat
It's actually Senju/Uchiha/Uzumaki

Hyuuga are closer to the fodder tier clans than to the top ones.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Methnerd
Why is Danzo getting buttblasted?

Become some punkass bitch is sitting in his seat with that soft-tier Hashirama-styled ruling philosophy.

Gas the Uchiha, Clan war now.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@happy_sad
He taught him about boobs.

@Carnalpleasure
Hidden

Methshot
Methshot

@Methshot
implying

Mirai is only the granddaughter of the third and possibly the 6th's personal cockwarmer.

Konohamaru was the grandson of the third, plus he was the pupil of the 7th, and is raising the next sannin which will see the future Hokage.

Evilember
Evilember

@Fuzzy_Logic
She really is. It's a shame she was the first of the new generation. She'll never be anything more than the most minor of minor characters even though she's good enough to guard Guy and Kakashi and she has passable genetics and Shikamaru as a teacher.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@idontknow
It's the terrible writing
Which is why if SP is smart they'll hire the actual author who co-wrote Boruto to write the plot for a new series.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Stupidasole
Shino
Ino
Nardo
under Anko
Credit where it is due, I could see some fun shenanigans with a team like that.
Reeks of fanfic, though.

askme
askme

@Poker_Star
and he clearly would have wanted to put them together
Nigger, he was already arranging their fucking marriage. Of course they'd be on a team together.

He can stick Himawari with Metal Lee once she graduates. He's already got his ace in the hole.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Methnerd
Yeah, how convenient that 4 out of the 6 guys in Tobirama's team ended up becoming the ones in charge of the village.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Methshot
Konohamaru will be too busy trying to keep the future Sannin in check.
Mirai will pull a interim-eighth like Danzo did for the 6th.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Methshot
Mirai is the new Asuma. Konohamaru is the new Hiruzen. He's even teaching the neo-neo Sannin for Chrissakes. They've even got Orochimaru's kid and everything.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@RumChicken
I would have liked to see Naruto training under people other than Jiraiya or kakashi. Anko, Might Guy, or even with kurenai to work on his shity inability to do genjutsu.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@askme
He can stick Himawari with Metal Lee once she graduates

Do you even into Crusader Kings. That's a waste of genetics to give Himawari to someone with genetics like that.
Unless you wanted that kid to specifically be so fucking hardcore at Taijutsu that he'd shit all over Guy.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@StonedTime
Kurenai
genjutsu

@Sharpcharm
If Mirai pulls a Danzo then it'll be the student of Danzo's killer to put her in her place.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@RumChicken
Is Mirai even old enough to take her own team yet? By the time she becomes Asuma, she'll be an old lady since she'll be getting an Ino-Shika-Cho.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@New_Cliche
Give her to Shinki.
Leaf/Sand hybrids are apparently god tier and his magnet release and being royal Suna family is a plus.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@StonedTime
And it would fix Hiruzen's ridiculous dropping of the ball in regards to his training. Why would you give your superweapon the standard package and not have him tutored his whole life so he doesn't get his stupid arse killed on his first mission.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Evil_kitten
implying that Salad could become Hokage if she monkeys Sasuke.

Come now. Don't degrade Salad like that. She's the only not utterly shit thing to come from the Uchiha clan. Her and Shisui anyway.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Methshot
She didn't even make a single appearance throughout all the post-700 stuff.

How is even going to become hokage if we ever get to see Nardo retiring?

DeathDog
DeathDog

@New_Cliche
Unless you wanted a kid to specifically be so fucking hardcore at Taijutsu that he'd shit all over Guy
Since Boruto is shaping up to be the next god-king of ninjutsu then yes and his taijutsu will be raised to ridiculous levels through Sage Mode and possibly kenjutsu, that's exactly what I want.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@StonedTime
Anglo was one of the most fun characters in the entire series. Her introduction plus the whole curse mark thing made me think she was going to be a long term character.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@New_Cliche
Anko*
something something autocorrect

5mileys
5mileys

@SomethingNew
Is Mirai even old enough to take her own team yet?
She's likely a Jonin already. And remember Kurenai? She was young as fuck and she got a team. They were fucking useless, but they were a team nonetheless.

@PackManBrainlure
It's possible since Yoda will inevitably fuck Shikadai.

askme
askme

@New_Cliche
Anglo

idontknow
idontknow

@PackManBrainlure
I dunno, man. For royalty purposes it would be a good idea to do that but then you'd need to ensure that Himawari is the one in control of the relationship so that it's the touted Hyuga clan running Suna when her kid becomes Kazekage.

Though Suna/Konoha would be impossibly close given their Kage would have been Uzumaki at some point.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@CouchChiller
Reread my post. I said "student", not "Salad".

Plus Boruto will need to learn the ins and outs of political assassinations where he's going.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@StonedTime
Shame there wasn't a little arc of him working with Team 10 under Asuma as he is trying to master the wind element. Maybe even give him a few techniques to work with, while we're at it.
An extended time with Anko would likely just have lead to a severely molested Naruto and Gai would have infected the kid with YOUTH irreparably.
Also
Nardo
genjutsu
Kurenai could be interesting for character interaction and I could see her becoming a sort of mother figure, sad as that might be, but there is very little in the way of practical reason for him to spend time with her around (unless you make NH happen far earlier or something).

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Sir_Gallonhead

The supporting characters are interesting because they still have potential, it's the same with Bleach. Once they're developed they become boring as fuck because both authors can't develop characters for shit.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@VisualMaster
nardo will probably retire after a decade or so like Kakashi. His dream was to become Hokage, not become Hokage forever. And he's not a dick so he'll step aside once he thinks Konohamaru is ready to take his place.

Techpill
Techpill

@VisualMaster
Careful planning and convincing Naruto that he'd be better off retiring?

@DeathDog
Punching someone so hard it closes their Tenketsu? I think I know what Metal and Himawari's kid would look like.

@5mileys
Oh right. Yeah Mirai will be fine.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@New_Cliche
Im glad that she was popular enough to avoid an ignominious end at the hands of kabuto, but I think that having the last panel of her being fat and playing it as a joke was a bit of a low blow, intended or not.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@idontknow
but then you'd need to ensure that Himawari is the one in control
Hardly. Just make it clear that her brother will teleport a nuke into the village center if he does anything to harm her.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@idontknow
Though Suna/Konoha would be impossibly close given their Kage would have been Uzumaki at some point.

Also it would finally make Gaara's dream come true to being family with Naruto.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Flameblow
I think that having the last panel of her being fat and playing it as a joke was a bit of a low blow,

She was seriously top five for best bodies and Kishi was like "Nah. Let's ruin that"

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Need_TLC
Not even attracted to most Naruto characters but Hashirama's handsome as fuck.

likme
likme

@RavySnake
severely molested Naruto
I don't see a problem with this.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Flameblow
I refuse to believe Orochibuto didn't violate all her holes with his big white trouser snake while she was his captive.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@BunnyJinx
No no. You fool! You don't rule through fear. You be loved and respected.
Himawari has shown the great makings for a leader. She's nice and polite but will straight up end a motherfucker if her precious things get hurt.
If you convince Suna that Himawari has their best interests at heart and then get Himawari to play the political game, you're golden.

@Ignoramus
Gaara would fucking love that. He of most people deserves that to be honest.

WebTool
WebTool

@Ignoramus
Gaara's dream
You're not even wrong. He's the first person to say something about Burrito when he sees him getting ready to save nardo, and uses this opportunity to give the kid a verbal blowjob.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@SomethingNew
of course he is, girl's husbando isn't going to be some ugly fuck

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@SniperWish
who cares about Suna anyway the place is a backwater with no water

The only reason it's useful is to bolster the Leaf's status.

There's no reason in marrying her off politically when her brother's already fucking the leader of the free world.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@SomethingNew
I wonder who could be behind this post.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Crazy_Nice
*best girl's

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Lord_Tryzalot
It's because it's backwater that you have her take care of it.
You need to show that Konoha has more than it's vested interests at heart to solidify the stronghold Konoha has on the continent.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Lord_Tryzalot
And the Stone had a shit showing with the Chunin Exam.
As did the Mist.
Face it, thanks to Furher Gaara and his siblings having offspring that are ubermensch, the Sand is now top tier.

Bidwell
Bidwell

Who is Menma

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Bidwell
Road to ninja naruto

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Bidwell
Alternate version of Naruto who dyed(?) his hair black and was a dangerous missing nin.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Bidwell
Turns out that Universe Fox is more Chaotic Evil, and it turns out that being sealed with a beast as a infant is a lot healthier than doing it later in life.
Especially when your parents are too stupid to make sure the seal is a proper one.

Inmate
Inmate

@StonedTime
He's not very good with prophecies, but...

WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T THEY BRING HIM BACK WITH THE OTHER HOKAGES

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@cum2soon
Why would you want to?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Inmate
Kabuto couldn't get the DNA from the body and he didn't go to Pain's chakra receivers to get it.

I don't know why he didn't just go give the nearest hooker a medical examination. He would have gotten plenty of DNA for Edo Tensei to revive Jiraiya.

Inmate
Inmate

@Crazy_Nice
It's such a bullshit excuse, I'll bet he just forgot about him

Nojokur
Nojokur

Man the guy fight in the anime was such a let down, all those months of filler just for that

idontknow
idontknow

@Inmate
Kishi or Kabuto? Because the first line was actually Kabuto's reasoning, that if he wanted to revive Jiraiya he'd have to go to Pain's rods to get it since the body is too deep underwater to reach.

Still, Jiraiya would have fought Naruto with everything he's got just to see how Naruto has grown.
No sealing required, just beat him once and Jiraiya would have been happy.

Methshot
Methshot

@New_Cliche
And this is the nardo who had a loving family and no abandonment issues.

This could have been Burrito in a couple years if nobody did anything about his edge.

@AwesomeTucker
the Sand is now top tier
Only Shinki. His teammates got their asses handed to them by Konoha kids.

Fucking fatty nigger Chouchou.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Inmate
Minato got brought back so he could fight alongside his son, and because one of his students was now one of the main villains.

Hashirama got brought back because he was the most powerful ninja of the Naruto lore and because he was Madara's boyfriend.

Tobirama got brought back to flesh out the Senju, who were now one of the only two relevant clans of the series.

Hiruzen got brought back because the other three hokages did.

There was no reason whatsoever to bring back Jiraiya.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Nojokur
Hopefully the game will do better. Of course that's been delayed until February.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Has Chouchou got her slim butterfly form yet?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@idontknow
since the body is too deep underwater to reach.
In a world where we can summon meteors and split the ocean with a billion paper bombs, we can't dive to the bottom of the ocean?

Booteefool
Booteefool

@DeathDog
She looks just like Karin in that pic.
"It's only because the fucking glasses!"
I fucking know that! She looks more like Karin than Sakura.
I find stupid that Kishimoto has designed Sarada with more physical resemblance to Karin than to Sakura if the plan always was Sasuke ending up with Sakura.
I can't tell if he's a troll or only he's just stupid.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Methshot
This could have been Burrito in a couple years if nobody did anything about his edge
You gotta admit that fur collar on the cloak is absolutely bitchin' though.

girlDog
girlDog

@New_Cliche
His hair must have been blond beforehand because nobody remarked on Naruto's.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@CodeBuns
Really, Storm 4 got delayed? First I heard of it, shit.

massdebater
massdebater

@ZeroReborn
There was no reason whatsoever to bring back Jiraiya.
Does there need to be a reason to bring back the 2nd best character? With rock lee clearly being the best

Firespawn
Firespawn

@girlDog
He was.

@Booteefool
Kishi knows. He just doesn't care.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Raving_Cute
Pressure is magic user

FastChef
FastChef

@Methshot
And this is the nardo who had a loving family and no abandonment issues.
It was actually Coolest Guy fucking with the dream world and making an avatar. Less mirror universe, more deliberately fucked dream.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Raving_Cute
Kabuto himself apparently couldn't. I'd guess something to do with underwater pressure? It's not like everyone in the world can split the ocean or summon meteors.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Spamalot
Madara makes the best crazy faces when he's thinking about Hashi. His rejected expression after Hasirama told him to fuck off til later when he was stoked to finally face him again is probably my favorite panel in the entire manga.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Booteefool
What the fuck do you need? For her to have pink hair or green eyes?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Booteefool
And I'm sorry for my broken english but I'm fucking tired right now. I don't want to check grammar and all that shit.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Nojokur
Until he went full Uchiha, he was the best part of the ninja war.
Him just using basic Taijutsu to fuck up the entire group was the shit.
It's once he started dropping meteors and 25 wood clone Susano'o is when he started to get boring.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@SniperWish
I remember this when Naruto was actually fun

idontknow
idontknow

@SniperWish
So is that piss or...

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@idontknow
Yeah Ino saw his dick

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Need_TLC
The meteors and shit were still pretty good, mainly because he used them for shit talking purposes.
Oh look, you barely just hit me because I'm not trying
Time to kill you all in one move

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Carnalpleasure
looks like Ino saw her own dick, he is transformed as her

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Skullbone
Yeah nah. that was fairly common by that point. The fact he took it old school and started beating motherfuckers with the basics is what made that more enjoyable.

I'd rather watch someone do the basics and waste someone rather than some massive flashy one hit kill.
It shows you just how truly outclassed someone is when you're beating them with the skills Academy Students learn.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@SniperWish
that was a henge'd naruto if I remember right. the whisker marks and all.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Garbage Can Lid
The glasses are the key.
Without the glasses there wouldn't be all this faggots asking questions about Salad's design or parenthood.
Kishi just fucked it up.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Need_TLC
No, it got boring when he decided for some reason to not use any of his powers to wipe out the ninja alliance and just stand on top of the juubi providing color commentary on the useless jutsu they were using or when he forgot about 90% of his techniques while fighting Guy and Naruto/Sasuke.

FastChef
FastChef

@GoogleCat
By that point he was already boring though. It was just a continuation of the boring train that happened once he went full Uchiha and just started spamming eye techs and wood jutsu.

farquit
farquit

@Methshot
hating based Chouchou
Get the fuck out.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@SniperWish
To this day I still don't understand the context of this picture.

Evilember
Evilember

@farquit
She sucks at her job, user.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@haveahappyday
I think it was
Ino looks like the guys fiance
She poses as her for reasons
Naruto is her backup
Her transforms into her and falls off a roof

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@farquit
Defending shit-tier Chouchou.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@StonedTime
Naruto and Nagato are the child of the prophecy.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@New_Cliche
Nagato is just some guy that got Madara's eyeballs plucked in him because he was from Ashura's bloodline.

happy_sad
happy_sad

Naruto used to be fun.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Sir_Gallonhead
I thought he unlocked them himself

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Sir_Gallonhead
He is still part of the prophecy.

massdebater
massdebater

Thank god that Kishimoto didn't make Naruto a Minato clone.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@happy_sad
Naruto never stopped being fun.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Emberburn
That was a thing? I stopped reading after the fuck up with the 8th gate

Naruto stopped being good after the 3rd died, sound ninja stuff was pretty good though I guess

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Emberburn
Naruto spent aple time looking at attractive men to master this jutsu
two of them looks like Sai/Sasuke
Kind of amazing how he isn't atleast bi, in canon.

TechHater
TechHater

@Lord_Tryzalot
It stopped being good, sure, but it was always enjoyable, right up until the very end.

Which is why I have no regrets about it. That's why it's on Sheeky Forums. It was a series that defined a generation.

Nojokur
Nojokur

I do not see how that makes him the dumbest or most stupid!

Kakashi
rode sasuke Dick and taught him a killer move to make him stronger so he wouldn't go evil
didn't give a shit about naruto until naruto actually started to blow up

SOSP
gave sasuke the rinnagan despite knowing he was evil and knowing what his evil plan was. Hoping that would change him

The third
favored oro over all of his other students until he realized oro was a mass experimenting evil scientist murder.

Tsunade
took Sakura in
chose her dead man over jairaya

The list goes on

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Emberfire
Meanwhile Burrito spent his time spying on all the mothers of Konoha. And Tenten.

Looks like it really was Ashura making nardo gay this entire time.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Nojokur
Madara
basing 3 lives around a rock
Indra
my dad didn't chose me to make peace
better make a war to show him his mistake

takes2long
takes2long

@TechHater
It had way too much filler and so much fucking flash backs, like there's more flash backs to shit we already know than actual content, I really hope they come out with a Naruto Kai kinda deal, you can tell the whole story in a 100 episodes or less.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Spamalot
He is spending his time being a tsundere around his dad and worshiping The Edge.
Boruto's hobby must be watching pic related.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@PurpleCharger
@Nojokur

Danzo was seriously the most stupid character in the show.

Let's trick Hanzo into killing Yuhiko, that totally won't piss Nagato off
Helps Oorochimaru knowing that he committed horrible human experiments
Nominates Oorochimaru for Hokage
Attempted to kill 3rd
Even though Uchiha were pissed off he still stole Suishi's eye
Convinced Itachi to kill his entire clan, causing just about everything wrong in the series

I'm sure there's more, but for all his talk about protecting the leaf, his actions caused thousands to die.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@takes2long
After nardo GT will be nardo Kai, and then nardo Super will show us all just how bad SP's animation can truly get.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

I'm always saddened by the interesting ways the story could have gone, but didn't.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Nude_Bikergirl
He ordered the extermination of a bunch of traitors and helped an allied nation to stop a terrorist group. All that was pretty standard but the consequences were pretty bad.
Nominates Oorochimaru for Hokage
Attempted to kill 3rd
This shit never happen.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Nude_Bikergirl
Let's trick Hanzo into killing Yuhiko, that totally won't piss Nagato off
Because everyone expected the ten tails body to come out of the ground and fuck everything up right?

Helps Orochimaru knowing that he committed horrible human experiments
Also got help from Orochimaru on his Sharingarm and was his boss at one point.

Nominates Oorochimaru for Hokage
Was his boss at one point.

Attempted to kill 3rd
When was this? Unless you're talking about not helping the 3rd during the Crush Konoha arc in which case, that's a dick move but given Danzo's end goal it was internally justified to him.

Even though Uchiha were pissed off he still stole Shisui's eye
And? The Uchiha were clearly in the wrong when the least insane Uchiha know to join the village instead of the clan.

Convinced Itachi to kill his entire clan, causing just about everything wrong in the series
Itachi knew what needed to be done. He would have come to that conclusion anyway and Itachi benefited by forcing Danzo's hand to ensure the survival of the only thing Itachi cared about.

You're going to shit-talking someone for being an idiot. At least pick Hiruzen for his terrible decisions or Hagoromo who ACTUALLY started all the shit wrong with the series.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@SniperGod
Are you retarded? Danzo's faggotry is endless.

orders his underlings to let pain destroy the village, exposing himself as a power hungry traitor
wastes time trying to take out the Mist's Byakugan, after screwing up a peace conference when his status as Hokage is in jeopardy
sends orochimaru to kill kabuto, inadvertently creating one of the worst super villains in the series

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Nojokur
gave sasuke the rinnagan despite knowing he was evil and knowing what his evil plan was.

He was just doing the opposite of what he did the first time.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@RumChicken
early Akatsuki
terrorist group
They were a Saturday morning cartoon cast before getting shat on by Danzo.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Methnerd
traitor.

Hiruzen's softhearted faggotry is what got them in that position in the first place. Danzo's stance was the correct one.

Wasting time taking out the Byakugan

Except for the fact you're also taking out Ao while you're at it and protecting village secrets.
Things a "traitor" wouldn't even consider doing.

sends orochimaru to kill kabuto, inadvertently creating one of the worst super villains in the series

Except Orochimaru and Kabuto ended up being two of the most important people after Sasuke/Naruto etc when it came to saving the world.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@massdebater
It is good he didn't turn into a weak jawed girlyboy like his dad.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@StonedTime
Danzo pls go you're dead

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Nojokur
You're being unfair to Kakashi there, he taught Sasuke chidori so Gaara wouldn't kill him and it's not like he payed them all that much attention beyond that. He did give Naruto veggies occasionally, or was that filler?

happy_sad
happy_sad

@haveahappyday
And with any luck his son will turn out to be him with Neji's cool and refined features.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Carnalpleasure
truly the story of naruto

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Spazyfool
Except Orochimaru and Kabuto ended up being two of the most important people after Sasuke/Naruto etc when it came to saving the world.

By that logic you might as well praise Coolest Guy for killing Minato and Kushina because it got Naruto the fox which ended up being 90% of his power.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@AwesomeTucker
I never noticed, but Indra had the Kaguya markings above his eyes. I guess he's also the progenitor of the Kaguya Clan.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Stark_Naked
Only reason Naruto didn't die like a bitch in the Tourney was because he stumpled upon Jirayia.
Its like Kakashi's master plan is for him to get disqualified after removing the seal on his deathbed.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Emberfire
Danzo should have seen the betrayal coming, seeing as how Orochimaru was licking his lips whenever Kabuto was around.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@StonedTime
narutards

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Fuzzy_Logic
They were trying to impose themselves in the country with their faggotry.

likme
likme

@GoogleCat
No, Neji would have beaten the piss out of him and that would be that.
Why would Naruto have died?

TechHater
TechHater

@Emberfire
implying Kushina and Minato wouldn't have owned the war

Naruto was going to be a genetic beast no matter what.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@likme
Tourney filled with retarded killers
Naruto just so happens to face a non lethal one
Still manages to almost die

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Illusionz
Almost die
Come on, if he didn't have the foxes power his chakra points would have remained sealed and he would have been helpless. Neji would have just pushed his shit it, it would have been good for him, really.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Illusionz
Gaara was the only retarded killer of the bunch. The sound ninja were only interested in killing Sasuke.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@w8t4u
Sasuke
Gaara
Kankuro
Temari
Not random killers

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@RumChicken
That could actually explain why Juugo sees so much of Kimimaro in Sauce, other than it being a stupid plot device for him to give a shit about someone he doesn't even know.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Carnalpleasure
Sauce isn't NinJesus, he's NinMoses.

idontknow
idontknow

@ZeroReborn
Konohamaru won't get the chance. Uzumaki bloodline is gonna keep Naruto in the chair longer than Onoki.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@TurtleCat
so you're saying that you're so fat and atrophied that the extra effort you have to pit into scrolling past these threads and not comment is fat shaming or something

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Raving_Cute
Jiraiya wasn't even at the bottom of an ocean, he died in Ame which is landlocked.

It was a lake.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@idontknow
300 year old Naruto still looks fifty
Senility is finally settling in
Can't remove him from office because he's the strongest in the world bar none
Only way to kill him is if you nuke your own capital city
I'd watch that movie.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@idontknow
But Hashirama's wife died in her 80s.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@hairygrape
Unless he married her when she was sixty+

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Spazyfool
Hiruzen's softhearted faggotry is what got them in that position in the first place.
That's a straight up lie. The Uchiha clan was politicking with Hiruzen until one of their best and brightest floated down river sans eyes.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Sir_Gallonhead
All we really know is that she died as an old lady when her first granddaughter was a teenager.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@TalkBomber
I know, but either Uzumaki longevity is a sham or she was over fifty when Konoha was founded.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@happy_sad
hope SP will animate the oneshots

Booteefool
Booteefool

@PurpleCharger
The whole idea of a "ninja war" was just retarded. The scale was too big for Kishi to handle which is why an event that lasted 1 day took like 4 years for him to finish. Explaining that "oh we lost 40,000 men" in a single panel was stupid as fuck.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Booteefool
The problem is that Kishi is simply not a man who thinks about the shit he writes too much.
He didn't consider how it would be waged, how the feudal lords and the muggles would figure into it, the sheer scale of power, never mind shit like supply lines or manoeuvring your units appropriately.
It's clear he wanted to make a war happen for a long time, but he did not build it up or developed the idea in any way in his head as he made his way towards it with the story. Part of the problem is the amount of work being a mangaka involves with little room to involve extra planning sessions, but when it comes down to it he should have seen the problem coming right at him and dealt with it.
A war like that is a massive opportunity to flesh out characters and make things happen, but he butchered all his opportunities, then wondered why people whop were putting up with his shit before were now dropping the series.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Lunatick
Was there a reason Sauce wanted Boruto to go with him other than maximum poetry?
What would he want with some kid on the battlefield?

whereismyname
whereismyname

@haveahappyday
He may have noticed the vanishing Rasengan and wanted to make use of it, since it evaded his own Rinnegan.
But really, it's the same reason everyone was happy to use child soldiers at all, pottery and possibly a wish to see how well the kid would handle actual, real pressure.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@TreeEater
wanting Yamato to not-exist

Characters like him are needed as well, user. ;_;

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Evil_kitten
fucking lee

WebTool
WebTool

@Nude_Bikergirl
Sounds like those comics of Jesus trying to get people to do bad shit, somebody should draw this.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Evil_kitten
Characters like him are needed as well, user. ;_;
Certainly not for the story to have happened.
Nor for anything he did for any of the characters.
Nor for the slight buff he seem to have given to the Zetsu army.
Nor for anything relating to the First's abilities or Orochimaru's attrocities.
At least Sai was a lead into the Danzo political shit, a plotline that was all but dropped, and he made some dick jokes and was a useful dispenser of ink hawks for transportation whenever Kishi could remember the guy existed.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Fuzzy_Logic
I don't like her tits. They're too large and it looks ridiculous. She can change her appearance at will but doesn't make them smaller and instead flaunts them around. Must come in so unhandy during the war.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

post yfw Lee's dream is actually Naruto SD

TreeEater
TreeEater

@haveahappyday
I'd love that.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Sir_Gallonhead
envious flat chest cunt detect

5mileys
5mileys

@Stupidasole
When is this, it's not during the original series, is it? I thought I'd seen all the filler from it.
Do Naruto, Ino and Shino actually go on a mission together?

King_Martha
King_Martha

@5mileys
There was a whole miniarc well after the filler hell began where they take down an island base of Orochimaru's populated by weird fish-men and scientists.
Why do I even remember this, I am unsure.

FastChef
FastChef

@Sir_Gallonhead
@Booteefool
The entire concept of a "Ninja War" beyond it being a simple aggrandizing term is already fucking retarded.

How many possible people does each Village have? TEN thousand at most? Without large-scale urban construction techniques and a stable food supply, population numbers rarely rise.How many of those people are actually NINJA? One out of Every 5?

So, maybe each village can provide 2-3,000 ninja, but after personnel, trainees and non-military assets, you maybe have 1,500 Combat Capable people.

But in the Narutoverse, what does that even mean? One Genin, can take on 10-15 regular (non-chakra) folks with weapons.But, -One- fucking Jounin can take on ten average genin with ease.

Quality varies.

This is all a logistical fucking nightmare.

I liked it better then Ninja Villages were just HIDDEN villages that served as each Nation's Ninja Branch, subservient for resources to each State.It made sense. There is no fucking way Konoha has enough resources to provide for itself.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@StonedTime
actually he was right
all 3 are the child of the prophecy
it was just random luck that if was naruto
if naruto was never born, minato would have been that child
if minato weren´t jiraiya would have visited pain again and convinced him and pain would be the child again

compare it to harry potter and neveile longbottom; both are the child of the prophecy

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@FastChef
i agree that the ninja war is bullshit
as bullshit as nejis death
i think it was just to let there be a gigantic fight

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@FastChef
how many possible people does each Village have? TEN thousand at most?
the Allied Forces were made up of 50k people to the 100K Zetsu army.
that means literally everyone went to war.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@FastChef
They're basically just military bases, they were always 'subservient' to the feudal lord, so I doubt they produce much of any of their own resources.

But the Hokage also acts as a military dictator so it's more like a permanent mercenary camp the lords pay to hang around and fight their battles.

Snarelure
Snarelure

fuck everything, we all know naruto is an unthought mess of Allah-tier folks fighting each other.

but

you know what's the worst thing about all of this?

anko is actually FAT

she's fat now

WHY

WHY DID YOU HAVE TO MAKE HER FAT

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@SniperGod
compare it to harry potter and neveile longbottom; both are the child of the prophecy

what?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Snarelure
im not even joking friends, she' legitimate FATSO now. she even hangs out with nigger fat child of chouji and some thundernigger woman.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Garbage Can Lid
Basically, both Harry and Neville's parents qualified as candidates for the prerequisites for the prophesy, Voldemort could have killed either kid's parents, setting off the events that would lead to his defeat. Ironically enough,

There's a video done by that Game Theory fag, on his other channel devoted to movie and tv shit, that goes into greater detail I'd post it, but, y'know...
Game Theory

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Just going to post this here.

likme
likme

@Lord_Tryzalot
@MPmaster
@Stark_Naked

I still dont understand how they had enough numbers to field 50,000 ninja personel, if that's officially what the writer stated.

Do you know how HUGE population numbers have to be field a 50,000 men army? Remember, on average, even ancient civilizations could only at best field 15% of available population/manpower to military personell without disrupting economic infrastructure-food production.

Then , considering that the author stated a SMALLER amount of people in the setting, maybe one in ten have chakra, or less?

So, then 50 THOUSAND NINJA?
Bullshit.
Absolute bullshit.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@likme
what if higher-ups faked the 50k ninja number to raise the morale of their ninjas? like, 100k of zetsu's is scary even if you're at 50k, but at least it's doable you know, it's just 2 shitty zetsus for every shinobi. and in reality there's maybe 10k ninjas, maybe even less, like 2-3k.

likme
likme

@Emberburn
I was underwelmed by how little emotional reaction Tenten had to Neji's death, she didn't even cry

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Playboyize
Sounds more logical.

Assuming that maybe, every ONE of those five great countries can (SOMEHOW) muster 2000 ninjas each, and a few 4-5 smaller countries can muster 500 ninja each...

You'd still be short of 15,000 Ninjas.
Sure, that would be THE most phenomenal army in the world, capable of crushing any other common army in the world with few if any losses.

But taking on 100,000 Zetsu clones?

JunkTop
JunkTop

@likme
Maybe she hated that git.
Seriously, not everyone likes their coworker, and Neji had been an asshole for a while before Naruto fixed that.

Maybe she just never made a connection with him.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@JunkTop
or maybe she put on her big girl pants and realize she cant cry, there's war, war never changes allah akbar gotta fight zetsu throw shurikens and katanas

Techpill
Techpill

@hairygrape
My nigger

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@likme
It gets even more bullshit when you think about the Chunin Exams.
If there's 50000 ninjas in the army, that means each nation has an average of 10000 ninjas.
During Naruto's Chunin Exam, an annual event, 21 people passed the second test. This was considered TOO MUCH, they had to narrow it down to 10
That means that usually, a maximum of 10 people (probably less), become Chunin each year. Not 10 people per village, 10 people TOTAL IN THE ENTIRE WORLD PER YEAR.
That means there's no way there can be as many chunin and jonin as we're usually shown. Logically, over 90% of ninjas should be genin

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Playboyize
@Stark_Naked
I was wrong. They had 80k to begin with. They lost 40k.
This is out-of-universe narration so it's not a lie or exaggeration.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Stark_Naked
The entire concept of the Chunin Exams make little sense
why do you have to pass tests to be promoted? In the real world you get promotions by proving yourself on the field or other reasons
Why are they only done once a year?
Why is it an international event? Why doesn't each village hold its own exams?
Why are the judges for each test from the village the test is being held? Shouldn't their be multiple judges from various villages to prevent bias?
Why are most participants so young?
If the tests require teamwork, how have so many people that hate teamwork become chunin or jonin?
Why is 21 people making it to the 3rd test bad?
How did Kakashi become a chunin without his team participating?

likme
likme

@Stark_Naked
Like I said, that even compounds my theory.
If promotions are limited to 10 people a year from the lowest ranks?

That's inconceivable.
Maybe it would work, if like I SAID, each village provided 1500 Combat-Capable personnel.

But 10,000 ninjas each village?
No fucking way.

Nobody would be able to get promoted.

You know, you're 12 years old, you're a Genin. You've participated twice in the Chuunin Exam.Failed twice. Fine. Now on your third try, you've trained- but OH NO, GUESS WHAT, NOW THERE'S A NEW GENERATION OF FAGGOT KIDS WITH BLOODLINES AND SHIT.

No common ninja dude would ever rise above Genin.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Spamalot
Kakashi's generation probably got rushed promotions due to the war

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Stark_Naked
I think it's an established fact that most shinobi stay genin for life.
Hinata for example was expected to serve the village as a genin for the rest of her life by her clan.

Also, the chunin exams aren't even held every year from what I gathered, though that was said in the filler chunin arc.

TechHater
TechHater

@likme
@Spamalot
@Fuzzy_Logic
I'm convinced.
The author didnt take the time to theorycraft his world.

At all.

80k ninja?
NOPE.
I'm done.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@SomethingNew
Hashirama and Tobirama are handsome as fuck

Nojokur
Nojokur

@cum2soon
Why do the faces in Shippuden look so goddamn flat and bland?

Spamalot
Spamalot

@iluvmen
Obito claimed they were Madara's eyes but at the same time we haven't seen shit to prove it, the "foreign" body parts came back with Nagato when he was revived unlike Sansori, and at the same time stating that the eyes belonged to him still seemed unclear because it sounded like he was just being a standard uchiha/ninja assholeusing doubletalk.
The doubletalk being the whole giving Nagato the eyes when it could just mean he sent the Konoha ninjas over to kill the parents and traumatise Nagato into enough of a state for Rinnegan to happen.

massdebater
massdebater

@likme
@Playboyize
@Carnalpleasure
@Stark_Naked
@Spamalot
@likme
Kishimoto can't into math
A comment by Zetsu in Part II stated that Orochimaru left Akatsuki after trying to take Itachi's body 10 years ago, meaning Itachi was in Akatsuki two years before the Uchiha Massacre, and was 11 at the time.

Supposedly Orochimaru conducted the Mokuton experiments on infants, or at least young children, but Yamato's age is given as 26 in the second part of the manga, and Orochimaru didn't know that he had survived because the experiments' discovery was what forced him to flee the village. This would mean that he left Konoha at least twenty years before the start of the manga. However, Anko is currently 24, but was somehow Orochimaru's student that far back (the databooks even say she was 10 when she graduated the academy). Likewise, Jugo is 18, but since he's what Orochimaru based the Cursed Seal he gave to Anko on before defecting Orochimaru would have also have to have met him before defecting. So either Yamato should be younger or Anko and Jugo should be older.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@cum2soon
Senju

MPmaster
MPmaster

@BunnyJinx
Uchiha
It's Uchiha Sakura in this pic right?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@BunnyJinx
You could kill someone that one eyed guy's chin

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@MPmaster
Why do they look so deformed?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@TreeEater
Then why even bother with exams in the first place?
Jounin don't need exams to get promoted, they just have to prove their worth

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@StonedTime
Abandons godson for 12 years knowing full well his life will be shit, he'll be alone and everyone will discriminate against him
What a shithead. Why did nobody ever call him out?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@idontknow
Nah. Naruto takes decade long vacations every once in a while to give other people a chance and have more lovey dovey time with Hinata.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Sharpcharm
I think it's an established fact that most shinobi stay genin for life.
It isn't.
Notice how almost everyone in the Chunin Exams is young. There was only one old guy with a mustache there, clearly meant as a joke.
If most ninjas were genin for life, there would be plenty of older participants.

The Chunin exams are actually twice per year, that doesn't help much. If there's 16000 ninja, and only about 10 graduates total per exam, it would take hundreds of years for even half of them to become chunin.
It gets even worse, only 87 Konoha genin were in Naruto's chunin exam, why such a low number?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@AwesomeTucker
It's even worse with Kakashi. He was actually in the village the whole time and never bothered helping his mentor's son despite seeing Naruto's problems first hand

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Stark_Naked
@Spamalot
You know, a relatively small amount of world building could try to salvage the Chuunin Exams, if not the ridiculous ninja numbers.
there are normal field promotions and the vast majority of them are those
the Chuunin exams are an event set up by the Third internationally, specifically looking at the creme of the creme to show off the village's assets but still at a low level so no really high-tier techniques can be spied on, yet already showing off to competitors and business partners
to qualify for that, genin need to have completed not just a number of missions but a certain rank of mission and need to have distinguished themselves as an individual or team
it also helps if you are using unique techniques, clan shit or can make a good show when it comes down to it
the chuunin made this way are distinguished and when in a unit composed of chuunin, the one with the most experience/skills might have to take orders from the golden boy, seeding some resentment and room for tension/mistakes as a way of flavouring the world a little
many missing nin are specially promoted big name faggots who were offered opportunities by business groups based on their showing, but there are plenty of those who begrudge the fact that they got promoted 'before their time' and now find themselves at a higher rank yet at lower social status, as fodder captain rather than someone to watch for the future with juicy missions and what have you

Also, the exams were held every 6 months, and you can enter even without your regular team, but you are slotted together with others who also lack a team member as far as I know.
Presumably the condition for the whole of Team 7 to go was an extra condition set by Kakashi to see whether his pupils have a real team spirit, giving them a snowball's chance in hell in the exams proper.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@SomethingNew
At least he had the excuse of emotional baggage and, in retrospect, Naruto being basically a non-Uchiha Obito on some level (very emotional but at least not a crybaby [back then], had no elemental shit but had access to ridiculous chakra).
I could see Jiraiya having every reason for not taking care of Naruto for the first few years, he would not be much good with diapers and a feeding bottle, and by the time Naruto was a few years old Akatsuki began to move and Jiraiya made the mistaken decision to trust the Third not to be a massive retard in bringing the kid up while he ensure he and his village are safe in the face of some pretty major danger.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Stark_Naked
@Spamalot
@likme
@Nojokur
@TreeEater
You've completely missed the point of the Chunin exams, they're not about graduating to chunin, they're about advertising.
All the other tests are to weed out those who aren't the best so the best can represent you in the tournament.
Field promotions still exist. Other avenues to promotion still exist. The chunin exams is about getting clientele first and promotions second.
There's also that whole bit about it being a substitute for war, too.

Or maybe I'm wrong and none of it makes any sense.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Spamalot
Field promotions still exist. Other avenues to promotion still exist
How do you know this?
Where are they mentioned?
How come the main character who has displayed an aptitude to lead (albeit from the front) and rally a whole fucking army, talk no jutsu a bad guy who just nuked the village into sacrificing his life to bring back all his victims in the village, motivated just about everyone to do their very best, is not deemed fit for a simple field promotion to command a four man cell? How come none of his promoted peers actually displayed such qualities, nor do they seem to be required to?

FastChef
FastChef

@Fuzzy_Logic
To be hones, the only reason Jiraiya was spying on Akatsuki, was his huge bonner for Oro. The way Kishimoto presents him just make him look like a big selfish cunt.

Anyway, at the day all inconsistencies in the manga is rather due of Kishimoto being hack, then his actual desire to represnt charachters in that light.

@Spamalot
It does make sense, but it still doesn't a lot of sense that 12 year old kids are more competent than older and more experienced genins.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Burnblaze
I don't, of course. Obviously since it's never mentioned, I could just as easily be an idiot for trying to apply any sort of common sense to this.
Same as above, since obviously Kishi never mentions it. I did say I could be wrong.
Different set of skills. Leading an army as a charismatic head is different from leading a squad on a mission, which at that point Naruto really could not do. Why are you asking me that?

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Spamalot
Or maybe I'm wrong and none of it makes any sense.
You're right about the advertsing, but wrong about other means of promotion existing.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Burnblaze
As the others said, this is a mess simply because Kishi is a hack who has put next to no thought into the whole system. Ninja in all nations having precisely the same ranks, or the very idea of there being three ranks altogether is plain retarded.
Now, because Kishi is clearly not the sort of writer to actually create his world with rules that he thought about and which he keeps consistent, I can see why you would want to go out of your way and devise an explanation or solution, but at the same time precisely because the man does not think about any of this and makes shit up as he goes along it's pointless to do so and the setting is hardly worth the effort of trying to make sense of it.
How can there be 80000 ninja, mostly composed of chuunin and jounin (remember, genin like Konohamaru are specifically stated to have been left at home) with the promotion mechanics stated above? It cannot. How does it work, then? We do not know and Kishi is obviously happier leaving it as a contrived, crystal clear piece of bullshit he'd rather not touch or think about at all, but presenting the 'fact' of it nonetheless - he's done the same shit, based on that recent interview, with stuff more important to himself and the fans, like how the fuck Sausage and Pinkshit got together or how their relationship is supposed to work.

Now I ask you: if the man who created this world as his baby and a work that took up fifteen years of his life, took precendence over his fucking honeymoon, is and will continue to be what he makes his living off of and which he is known world wide for; if that man is incapable or unwilling to work up a single fuck to give about the sheer amount of nonsense in that work AND he is happy to show off all that as nonsense, why the fuck should you try to salvage it?

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Skullbone
genin like Konohamaru are specifically stated to have been left at home
When was it stated that there were no genin in the army? I thought Konohamaru stayed in the village because he was too young.
I recall some genin being in the war, Gaara's fangirls were there.
I still agree that the very low amount of chunin exam graduates makes no sense and that the whole rank system makes no sense

Methshot
Methshot

@LuckyDusty
@Evilember
More like this?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@DeathDog
I thought Konohamaru stayed in the village because he was too young.
It was stated that Konohamaru's bunch was left behind, so I assumed all other (young) genin were left behind as well, especially as they'd be pretty much useless.
We covered the "all genin are young greenhorns and everyone but massively pathetic losers and the fucking MC becomes a chuunin because fuck you" angle already.
Weren't the fangirls wearing the sand version of the chuunin vest? I forget.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Emberburn
pink shit never believe in him
as usual

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@iluvmen
One guy solo'd an entire war.

All three of them did that.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Nojokur
It depends on the animation supervisor for the episode. I prefer it when the show uses flat colors though, it's better than the usual ugly gradients.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Bidwell
Yeah. By picking up trash and helping old ladies cross the street.

It's like assassinating Girl Scouts.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Playboyize
Did Temari and Kankuro even kill anyone?

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Boy_vs_Girl
Didn't Kankuro assist Kiba in killing those faggot twins while chasing Sauce?

whereismyname
whereismyname

@haveahappyday
Magic Rasengan and to help the little shit fix his mess and get back his father.

5mileys
5mileys

@Boy_vs_Girl
They each killed one of the Sound 4. Temari killed Tayuya. Kankuro stuck Akon and Ukon in a fucking iron maiden and smiled about it.
You'd think they'd have prioritized capturing them alive to get some intel on Orochimaru and where his hideout is

Inmate
Inmate

@Sir_Gallonhead
Flattie detected.

@FastChef
Autism.

takes2long
takes2long

@5mileys
one of the Sound 4
So did Choji and Neji. Who cares about that traveling freakshow? They were barely even human.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Boy_vs_Girl
Temari killed Tayuya and Kujaku, and Kankuro killed Sakon and Ukon and Ryugan. Kujaku and Ryugan come from the Sunagakure Support Mission Arc.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Methnerd
How the hell did Kabuto sign into the Chunin Exams without Danzo and ANBU noticing? How did he even get in if he'd been gone for the village for years, wouldn't that be very suspicious?
Considering the fact that both of Kabuto's team mates in the exam also worked for Orochimaru, was their sensei also working for Orochimaru or did they fool him too? Who was their sensei anyway?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Here's Hinata and Sauce's conversation in full and Bort awakening his Tenseigan out of sheer Sauce lust: http://kroh2011.tumblr.com/post/127910897072

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Soft_member
I believe it was Orochimaru in disguise.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Stark_Naked
Exactly, think about it like this who did kakashi get mad at for using his killer move in naruto and sasuke first fight? Naruto! He actually tried to say that it was a dumb move on jairaiya part for teaching it to naruto. Do he wanted naruto to stay the same that's why he didn't go ask guy or some other strong jounin to teach naruto, he asked the one who couldn't even train konohamaru

MPmaster
MPmaster

@DeathDog
No, because he was in "disguise" as the Sound 3's sensei. Kabuto's team were disguised as Leaf nin.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Evil_kitten
He's nicer to her than he is his wife. And Hinata is the same ol' Hinata.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@MPmaster
I thought he ditched that one after attacking Sauce.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Evil_kitten
Damn Sasuke. Hiding in the shadows like a villain.

5mileys
5mileys

@Spazyfool
That was a different disguise. That time he was a woman, who was dressed like a Grass nin.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Raving_Cute
Ebisu was exactly the teacher Naruto needed at that point, someone to round out his fundamentals, which are fundamental.
Kakashi's plan was sound: Give Naruto to a guy who could fix all his elementary mistakes, Naruto gets the shit kicked out of him by Neji, Sasuke hopefully doesn't get his idiot self killed by Gaara and then they can all happily go on to train for the next chunin exam in six months.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Evil_kitten
He truly is his father's child.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Evil_kitten
Has there been a recording of the prologue battle?

TreeEater
TreeEater

@LuckyDusty
To be fair Sauce was slapping Gaara's shit around during their match.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Evil_kitten
They might as well just give us the movie now since we've already got almost an hour of footage via rips alone.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@5mileys
Right, can't believe I forgot that.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Soft_member
@DeathDog
@MPmaster
Found about him on the wiki
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Kabuto%27s_Sensei
Doesn't even have a name.
The fact that he's still in the village after Kabuto was revealed traitor probably means he didn't know and wasn't working for Orochimaru.
It's funny how it turns out he was Orochimaru's student. Poor man must have suffered because of it just like Anko, and later Orochimaru fucks up his life again by putting 3 traitors on his team

farquit
farquit

@Methnerd
Nope. It's not really an important scene anyway. Just Sauce fucking around in another dimension, stealing their porn scrolls and attacking the inhabitants unilaterally.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@farquit
Oh that's a shame, I'm interested in the fight scenes and I wanted to confirm the animator that worked on the battle at the start.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@BlogWobbles
Yep, I had him confused with the Grass sensei. I don't even remember this guy.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@CodeBuns
I'm interested in the fight scenes
They're good, trust me. Like, really fucking good.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Evil_kitten
I find it funny that Sasuke doesn't adress Hinata by name
Sasuke-kun?
Who are you?
Hinata
...
Hinata Hyuga?
...
Naruto's wife?
Naruto got married?
Yes, you were invited to the wedding, he wanted you to be the best man but you never came, he was pretty sad
Sorry lady, I don't know you
We went to class together for years, we were in the Chunin Exams together, I fought with you during the war
Still doesn't ring a bell

girlDog
girlDog

@Spamalot
I saw the recording of the final fight, great stuff. The movie had skilled action animators storyboarding their own sequences and it shows.

idontknow
idontknow

@Gigastrength
After Orochimaru, when the plot changed from a full ninja geopolitic fight to a generic nekketsu "we need to unite to fight the evil baddie".

JunkTop
JunkTop

@lostmypassword
At least he didn't try and stab either of them.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Fuzzy_Logic
I don't even remember this guy.
I don't blame you, nobody does. He has no name and never speaks.
Kishi only remembered him because he needed someone else to be on Anko's team in a flashback

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@lostmypassword
Not only did these 2 never interact, Hinata never even mentioned Sasuke or ever seemed to give any thought about him even though it was Naruto's number 1 obsession

Methshot
Methshot

@lostmypassword
Why did you repost this? It's not really funny.
Neither character is really emotionally invested in the other, negatively or positively.
One of them is a polite person.
The other has no reason to dislike the polite one.
Thus, there is a basic exchange of information.

It's funny how a scene as basic as that would get both the people who'd hoped Sausage and Hinata would be chummy as well as waifufags who projected their own dislike of Sauce onto Hinata simply not giving a shit, apparently butthurt.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@LuckyDusty
So you admit that kakashi intentionally threw naruto to the wolves? See that's some bitch shit, naruto didn't need fundamentals, what he needed was a great trainer and would have lost if not for jairaiya stepping in on his own. Kakashi was a shit teacher who favored sasuke, you can say "oh but he taught sasuke that out of the need to protect him self" BS man! He admitted he taught sasuke that to make him stronger so he wouldn't feel the need to use oro mark and go evil. And then like I said he went bitching to jairaiya about teaching naruto such a high level move yet tried to ignore the fact that he did the same with sasuke. If that's not showing favoritism then I don't know what is. Hell for all I know if naruto was the one to go evil I doubt he would of put off killing him for so
Long. He would of went with sasuke and the Retrieval to probably end naruto with how much he didn't care for him.

At the end kakashi falls under the line of, sasuke Dick rider right along with Sakura,naruto, Ino, and kishi.

Kakashi is the one parent who shows favoritism all through their kids childhood. but the moment they see their favorite is off on drugs and stealing from them, while the least favorite is successful and actually helps them. Then how quick they are to switch sides

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Raving_Cute
@Evil_kitten
RTN Hinata.
Oh glorious day!

Methnerd
Methnerd

@RumChicken
No, Kakashi threw Naruto to someone who could help him where he needed help the most. He didn't need to beat Neji, nobody expected him to beat Neji, not beating Neji wouldn't have been a particularly horrible thing. His finding Jiraiya and learning the one thing that would let him win was not something in Kakashi's hand of cards at the time, he was doing the best with what he had.
He was a shit teacher, but not for the reasons you describe. He certainly could have handled it better, he could even have stepped in and made Sasuke drop out of the fight after he'd made a good showing. Teaching Sasuke a powerful jutsu when his next opponent is a psycho killer to have him rely on the jutsu and not on the curse seal isn't retarded, as such, it just wasn't the best way to go about it.
And here's where you go full retard, stop reading so much fanfiction. Kakashi never hated Naruto, he was never indifferent once he was his teacher, he just wasn't a very good teacher to anyone.

He was never his dick rider, you're an idiot.

Spending a month teaching him because if he didn't Gaara would have likely killed him isn't dick riding. It's sensible.

You're an idiot.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@TurtleCat
I was sure at the end it was going to turn out he didn't die but got washed away and was just chillin at some distant soapland.

massdebater
massdebater

@RumChicken
Not him, but
naruto didn't need fundamentals
Yes he fucking did.
what he needed was a great trainer
What he needed was to not be childish and listen to his instructors to begin with, but in the given situation to listen to the one arranged for him. Keep in mind that the guy could barely talk to Naruto for five seconds, we don't really know what he'd have done with him or how he'd have prepared him to fight Neji.
would have lost
Here's the situation. Both of your students are about to fight some crazy strong opponents. One of them is a psychotic killer. The other is a guy who's pretty butthurt about his lot in life. You have limited time and energy to train them.
Which one do you choose to train?
Kakashi was a shit teacher who favored sasuke
Agreed. I like the character, but he was not the right sort of mentor or teacher for Naruto.
high level move
The chidori is a bitch technique he made when he could not fuse the Rasengan with an element. The Rasengan, if you pump enough chakra into it, as seen throughout the show, dwarfs the Chidori in terms of how ridiculously dangerous it can be. He may also have judged Sasuke a little bit less retardedly childish (if obsessed with killing a bad guy) than Naruto.

The rest of your post is largely emotional conjecture I will not address.

King_Martha
King_Martha

How come they couldnt not resurecct jiraiya beacause "His body was too deep in the water" Yet people who had years dead can magically be resurrected

How the heck they were able to find the coffins/bodies of everyone resurrected?

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Flameblow
kishi's favorite girl pre shippuuden
turn her into a fat shit after not showing her for almost 200 chapters

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Flameblow
he still needs to switch bodies ever 2.5 years, just how did he get away with that

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@massdebater
If he needed them why did he still win without them? If they were so important then naruto would have had them or learned them at the time.

Yeah he could barely teach naruto because he was a sapp! Hell every strong thing konohamaru learned was from naruto, that dude was just a washed up instructor who wasn't even important or strong enough to fight in the war and if he did he sure didn't get any screen time.

Well both of them attempted to kill their prior opponents and I doubt kakashi just knew gaara whole back story and knew about everyone he killed. So this me they both was in the same boat. And even if he has limited time and energy he must of had enough to be playing around one arm rock climbing and shit. So I don't see that as a excuse and he could of at least found naruto a good trainer and not try to make him lose. And like I said he just trained sasuke to make him stronger he would of did it if he fought gaara or not.

Yeah he shouldn't had naruto should of got someone like guy who does favor the genius in his group.

Actually I haven't seen it dwarf the chidori! Only time it has was during the first fight, other then that it has shown to be equal with the rasengan. So know it's not a bitch move if either had landed the hit either one of them could have died but he chose to get mad at naruto and overlook sasuke using it

Soft_member
Soft_member

@King_Martha
How the heck they were able to find the coffins/bodies of everyone resurrected?
To be fair most of them are noted historic figures, likely entombed.
I got a hunch everyone got really big into cremation after the war.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Playboyize
Zetsu bodies, son.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Deadlyinx
Because jincuriki are superweapons. Naruto didn't learn them because he never wanted to, because he's dumb.

He was an elite instructor entrusted with training the Hokage's grandson. You only think he's shit because he was mostly comic relief.

Context, you twit. Neji was going to kill Hinata because she was Hinata. Gaara was going to kill anyone who got in his way. You're a fool if you consider this the same, Neji even said he had no beef with Naruto.

Favoritism is ok when someone other than Kakashi does it

Big ball rasengan. Sage Rasengan. etc. Read the manga

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@King_Martha
Just because they were dead for years doesn't mean their bodies can't be found, most important ninjas have tombs. The anime actually showed how Orochimaru and Kabuto had been graverobbing and collecting DNA for years, they also showed that just before the war Kabuto went to the Konoha cementery. It took a lot of trial and error, Kabuto ended up accidentally resurrecting the wrong people a bunch of times. For instance, he went to the cave Sasori died in, took some blood he found, but ended up resurrecting Chiyo instead.
Madara wasn't entombed anywhere, but I'm guessing Kabuto got his DNA from some weapons, just like how Kabuto wanted to resurrect Jirya with the blood from Pain's rods. Or maybe Black Zetsu gave it to him because without Kabuto the keikaku would have failed.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Soft_member
Nah. It was known ( First referenced by Nedgy and that seal) for a very long time that you don't risk enemy villages getting a teammate's body if possible because people can get unspecified stuff from it (or steal eyehax). I think it was even occasionally referenced elsewhere a few times like it was a matter of fact thing.

Since you just needed DNA Kabuto probably found random shit like swords that had the blood of kages on it,baby teeth in their old house, old bandages in a kage's dumpster, or even medical samples taken by others years ago.

WebTool
WebTool

@Deadlyinx
If he needed them why did he still win without them?
Fox gave him a second wind and a chakra shroud. It does not mean that Ebisu improving his basic weapon and tool usage, chakra control and other basics would not have been good for Naruto's development overall. Thing is, with him it was okay to win or lose, at least in terms of the kid still being alive.

both of them attempted to kill their prior opponents
One of them actively took joy in killing people and left a trail of dead bodies after him through the second phase. Anyone paying attention to Lee's match could spot that the guy was bonkers.
The other was calm, analytical and far more easily stopped, should it be needed. He only tried to kill his opponent once she called him the fuck out and thereby outraged him.

chidori
A basic Rasengan is equal with a chidori that uses both shape and nature manipulation. There's a lot more stuff you can do with the Rasengan by pumping more chakra, sage chakra or fox chakra into it, technically modify it by successfully applying a nature manipulation and use it many, many more times per day - every two clones Naruto makes could launch off a Rasengan, resulting in much bigger destruction whereas Part 1 Sasuke could only do two Chidori a day without relying on the curse mark.

Also, is English your second language? I'm not trying to sound like a dick here, but it does not read right.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@TechHater
But it was always enjoyable

Bull. Fucking. Shit. Almost the entirety of part II was unbearable unless you're some shitter that thinks it actually defined a generation.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@SniperGod
You mean the Manga or Anime?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@SniperGod
It was enjoyable. But it was the type of enjoyable where you go on Sheeky Forums to shit on the manga for being shit. If you didn't expect it to be good it was a fun ride.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@WebTool
What? Asuma manage to train both shikamaru and choji in preparation for the chunin exams. Kakashi called Naruto hopeless on their very first mission. Also why the hell dd Kakashi decide to send his students to the chunin exams in the first place after only going on one mission which they all got the shit beat out of them. Plus kakshi never taught hi grroup the most fundamentals of fundamentals TEAMWORK you could see every other team in the hiden leaf working together training together growing stronger together but not kakashi he focuses on Sasuke then Naruto totally ignoring the existence of sakura eventually apologizing to her for screwing her over

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@kizzmybutt
Asuma trained Shikamaru, Chouji was there to help.

Naruto was hopeless.

Kakashi was a bad teacher, no ones saying otherwise. Not that he could have taught Naruto and Sasuke to work together, they were both stubborn little bitches.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Dreamworx
This. Even at its worst it was still a blast.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@PackManBrainlure
Naruto was hopeless.
you can't write someone off as hopeless if you don't even try.
Asuma trained Shikamaru, Chouji was there to help.
Choji said quite clearly the only reason he is training is because Asuma was bribing him. That at least shows Asuma gave a damn about well rounding his team.
Not that he could have taught Naruto and Sasuke to work together
He could have at least try I mean the bell test was good because it taught them to work as a team but after that kakashi never bothered to hammer it in. Though he did get the luck of a draw to get two pig-headed boys and a love struck fan girl.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@kizzmybutt
Asuma manage to train both shikamaru and choji in preparation for the chunin exams.
Both of them use family-exclusive techniques likely kept private. That likely left him with more basic stuff to work with all his students. It's not as if we see much of their training regimen.
Also, Chouji's showing was hardly impressive.
Kakashi called Naruto hopeless on their very first mission.
And he needed someone to set him down a peg. The stuff he'd shown Kakashi, beyond knowing a high tier technique and managing to use it inexpertly, is not going to be something that impresses a man who at that precise age has already invented a technique on his own and has been a jounin for several years.
why the hell dd Kakashi decide to send his students to the chunin exams
Practice and to make them realise what sort of people they may be facing. At worst they'd fail and a failure every now and then might be good for their development, and it was not his fault Orochimaru and the Sand fucked it up for everyone.
TEAMWORK
He did try to get them to do it, but they clearly needed time to truly form into a team. Besides, Team 10 have been groomed into being a team since birth and 8 were all chill, good people, a massive advantage over 7 who had an obsessive and edgy arrogant fuck, a useless fangirl cunt, and an orphan starved for attention and no social skills due to being the village pariah.

massdebater
massdebater

@Spamalot
the point of the Chunin exams, they're not about graduating to chunin, they're about advertising.
this is true.

also most of the ninjas are old as fuck, chosen decades before the chuunin exams were even a thing.

it still doesnt make sense to have such big numbers per village, but is not THAT retarded.

takes2long
takes2long

@AwesomeTucker
Can't write someone off as hopeless
You really can. If someone has gone through school, come out dead last and continues to be a little shit you'd be surprised at how many people would give up easily on such an apparently hopeless case.
Chouji said
Bribing him for his help, it was just a happy side consequence that helping Shikamaru train was training for Chouji too.
Could have at least tried
The bell test is an awful concept, actually, because it's mainly just your new superior officer lying to you as his first task for you on your first day on the job.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Ignoramus
is not going to be something that impresses a man who at that precise age has already invented a technique on his own and has been a jounin for several years.
You could say that but Tobi was on kakashi's team and he was also unskilled and Kakashi himself says how Naruto and Tobi are a like.
Practice and to make them realise what sort of people they may be facing. At worst they'd fail and a failure every now and then might be good for their development, and it was not his fault Orochimaru and the Sand fucked it up for everyone.
Practise also could have been training them as a concise unit working together while going on missions ad boning with each other. especially since Sasuke and Naruto are so volatile they needed the extra team building training

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@iluvmen
Obito was pretty skilled, actually. He would have been about as strong as Sasuke was at the same age.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@takes2long
You really can. If someone has gone through school, come out dead last and continues to be a little shit you'd be surprised at how many people would give up easily on such an apparently hopeless case.
Naruto still passed though you really think if naruto wasn't ready Iruka or the third would have said fuck it let him pass.Plus Naruto demonstrated some potential when he was able to use the shadow clone technique which is an elite level move especially since he wasn't able to do a clone jutsu.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Harmless_Venom
How does that refute anything I said? He only barely scraped through because he was secretly massively talented and happened upon a technique that fit him perfectly. He was still a little shit after graduating and had a long reputation of being a shitty little screw up.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Dreamworx
Obito only got strong once Madara and the living fecal encyclopedia started training him. And he gained the ability to phase through matter and dimension warp because boners.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Dreamworx
12 year old coolest guy was a shit tier ninja

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@iluvmen
He was still a little shit after graduating
Oh please Naruto calmed down a lot when he became a Ninja and only started to act like a douche again when sasuke left the village and he desperately wanted to find him. Or are you saying you didn't notice a definite change when he was hanging out with Konohamaru.
He only barely scraped through because he was secretly massively talented
And kaksahi would have never known that because his only interacton with Naruto after the zabuza arv was avoiding him and thowing his duties as a sensei off to a dude who could barely control a kid. Fact if Jiraiya never came along and begun training Naruto no one would know about his hidden potential. If kakashi had it his way Naruto would have never known the rasengan existed even after he figured out a dude who was able to massacre his entire clan was after him. If Jiraiya never come along Naruto would have never be able to summon the toads or be able to access he nine tailed foxes chakra.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@VisualMaster
To be fair, Kakashi wasn't much better
Runs straight towards the enemy with a jutsu he just made a few days ago and doesn't know the drawbacks of.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@whereismyname
He could use fireball jutsu and had to fight in a war; he wasn't a nothing scrub.
@VisualMaster
Kakashi's just shit talking.

Obito was never a terrible ninja, he wasn't as good as Kakashi, but he wasn't terrible.

Techpill
Techpill

@VisualMaster
Wasn't Jiraiya also considered a shit ninja when he was a child too? Maybe that's why he was good-ish with Naruto he knows whats its like having everyone writing you off.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Spazyfool
I guess the eraser prank, being an idiot during the bell test and trying to steal lunch, screwing up easy missions trying to compete with Sasuke, flaking out in his first real fight and pitching a fit over Ebisu training him never happened, eh?

What does this have to do with anything?

5mileys
5mileys

@Flameblow
flaking out in his first real fight
Its not like it was his first mission or anything in an actual life or death scenario. you would have done so much better I'm sure
I guess the eraser prank
you're right user kids never tries to pull off dumb pranks Naruto is the only one.
Ebisu training him never happened
The only interaction Ebisu and ever had was Ebisu writing him off as a loss cause and a freak because of the nine tailed fox who then knocked himself. Then Naruto eventually decided he will give him a try who then proceeds to get knocked the fuck out by Jiraiya 10/10 instructor.
Yes Naruto calmed down after he became a Ninja he stopped defiling the monuments and being a general nuisance to the village.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@5mileys
I'm not a child soldier who should have paid attention in military school.

Oh man you sure told me, I can see the light about how calmed down Naruto is now. He's certainly still not a little shit.

That has literally nothing to do with what I'm talking about because you cherry picked half of a sentence and took it out of context, and missed the point of that scenario to boot.

I give up, this is going nowhere. You're an idiot.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Dreamworx
I'm not a child soldier who should have paid attention in military school.
What? I'm in the military and what they show and tell can never compare to the real thing its normal to be fucking terrified because this is the first time in such a scenario no amount of training can prepare you for the real thing especially if said subject is a fucking twelve year old.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@lostmypassword
And real life military is nothing like Naruto's magical military. What I was saying is it's stupid to compare this to real life.

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