Overlord Thread

Spamalot
Spamalot

Continue Chapter 9 discussion.

Who is the best boy?

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WebTool
WebTool

Mare

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Spamalot
Demi for best bro
Cocyutos for best uncle
Mare for best girl

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

http://www.youdubber.com/index.php?video=jMoVmSV4yA8&video_start=0&audio=ItjFLbYDvo0

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Spamalot
Demi is best boy, because Mare is best girl. Aura is best tomboy though.

MPmaster
MPmaster

Bullies Nabarel
Makes Nazarick poor
Wastes time being famous
Makes maids cry
Shits up chapter 9's climax.

The worst thing about this story honestly is Momon. Serious, fuck Ainz's retard side. If he really wants to love and support his sons and daughters, he can do that on this throne being awesome.

Techpill
Techpill

After a nice Sadpanda visit I'm really craving Climb/Runner femdom doujins.

JunkTop
JunkTop

“So that’s what you are; a man-eating monster right? Even wearing a maid outfit, what kind of joke are you trying to pull? Who’d want some bloody smelling monster like you around them?”

“wHAT arE yOu SAYInG?! bItCH!”

Without pausing to think, Entoma let out her real voice, then immediately clamped down on her own throat.

Reminder that Evileye is maid bully.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Spamalot
Alibido
She is my fetish

idontknow
idontknow

Is Demiurge the reason she pees herself?

hairygrape
hairygrape

@MPmaster
Momon gets by entirely due to his EX rank luck, seriously if things had gone just slightly differently he'd be out on his ass.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Techpill
If on the last pages Demi shows up and NTRs Renner away with his morphing giant demon cock and proceeds to fuck her infront of Climb im all in for it.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@idontknow
In case you aren't just trolling / shitposting, that's a part of her cloak.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@hairygrape
That "calm the fuck down" aspect of undeath also helps as it makes him have a perfect pokerface/voice.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@hairygrape
I don't know. A lot of times things go wrong out of his control, he only gets back on track because his subordinates are willing to fix it for him or he just uses his real strength to power on through it.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Harmless_Venom
Now that you mention it... Damn must have been unable to unsee it after some user said she pissed herself.

RumChicken
RumChicken

Reposting since last thread is about to die
Not knowing how it appeared, Shalltear sensed a presence right by her side. It was filled with such hostility that she could not simply overlook it.
Who was that?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@idontknow
I really hope she gets the skelly D.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@RumChicken
Use your brain. Who else was around the battlefield?

massdebater
massdebater

Why is this author absolutely obsessed with the phrase "like a puppet/marionette whose strings have been cut?"

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Evil_kitten
Oh shit
i feel dumb now
Fuck me sideways

whereismyname
whereismyname

@massdebater
because it's a good metaphor?

Nojokur
Nojokur

@massdebater
could be the translator's choice of phrase

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Harmless_Venom
surprisingly red cloak has a surprisingly red inside
skirt is cut in triangles and can be seen further in between her legs, and over those triangles the urine is coloured on
She's pissing herself. Deal with it.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@massdebater
Why does he constantly need to tell us the impossible stuff happening is actually possible, but totally not possible in the current situation?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@whereismyname
It is, he just uses it 19 times per chapter

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

This Momon shit is getting old fast. At first, okay, we're seeing the world through MC's eyes, with some light Naberal bullying to keep us engaged. Cool. But he keeps injecting himself into otherwise decent plots.

Watching Momon is sort of like watching Clark Kent wear a disguise while he effortlessly takes Smallville's junior football team is victory. There might be interesting characters, dynamics and drama going on with the other team members, but it all get shits on when on game day, Clark "heroically" wins the game. It's not heroic at all because Superman literally can't lose at football. And for what? To be famous? He could be way more famous being Superman.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Sir_Gallonhead
well, there a lot of strings being cut apparently.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@idontknow
BURN THE MEIDO BULLY!

farquit
farquit

@massdebater
Why is he so in love with the smell of ammonia?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Gigastrength
Of course Superman can lose at football.
He can get kicked out of the field because he accidentally annihilated someone's leg.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@farquit
people piss themselves when scared. There's a lot of scaring going on.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Can ainz defeat batman with prep time?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Carnalpleasure
Batman is cool and all, but Ainz is a super magic casting skeleton.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Gigastrength
He hasn't done shit since vol 2 aside from pretending he defeated Shalltear.
He only showed up in this volume after Entoma and Blue Rose had their cool fight and the only thing left was for Demi to kill Evileye.
Instead of petty slaughter, now we are getting a cool fake battle between the Hero Momon and the Villan Jadalbaoth.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@CodeBuns
but he has prep time man

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Carnalpleasure
In 1v1 yes, if it's in a team fight probably not since he's shit at planning on the fly.

Techpill
Techpill

@eGremlin
Nazarick is too spooky for the New World.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Carnalpleasure
time stop
instant death
armies of undead
black holes
Tell me.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Stark_Naked
Sigh. You can see clearly where the front of her cloak touches the floor and folds underneath her. You can see the black at the edges. The cape/scarf is red, and she is not sitting on it. Also, you can see one of the pointy frill pieces from the front resting flat on the floor yet it is not submerged in anything -- it is in fact lying ontop of the inside of her rear cloak.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Emberburn
Imagine if Ainz went all Batman super villain in Arkham. That makes me laugh for some reason.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

I wonder if we'll ever get scans focusing on other characters.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Carnalpleasure
Batman somehow survives being in shit deeper than Ainz' level, so he can probably handle him too.

They'd be best buds in no time if they met though.

girlDog
girlDog

ok lets amp up a little
can ainz defeat the flash?

happy_sad
happy_sad

When IS volume 10 supposed to come out anyways?

@eGremlin
Batman survives because his villains are fucking stupid.

askme
askme

@Fuzzy_Logic
Sigh

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Sharpcharm
I hope so

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Emberburn
Batman started his own guild in Yggdrasil.

It has 20,000 lvl 100 members and they all came into the new world.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@hairygrape
Yeah really, that shit is corny and cringy as fuck to read

Sounds like
*teleports behind you*
"Nope it was just an after image!"

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Spamalot
Who is the best boy?
Papa Bones is best boy.

Demiurge is best right hand man
Nabe is best klutz
Albedo is a cute
Aura is best girl
Shelltear is best Chair

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@MPmaster
Reminder that Ainz wants to actually just explore the world and find his old friends. It's Nazarick that wants to conquer the world, not him. For him conquering the world is only because it might make it easier to find people like himself.

massdebater
massdebater

@DeathDog
Also since Batman is a billionaire he bought all the good cash shop items.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@massdebater
he brought the game company
has all the world class items

Methnerd
Methnerd

@DeathDog
@massdebater
What kind of NPC would Batman design in Yggdrasil?

Also, what kind of NPC would you design in Yggdrasil?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@massdebater
batman would just take the direct route and hack the game servers themselves. Lets see ainz beat a guy carrying literally every world item.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@massdebater
Nigger please. Wyane Enterprises buys a controlling share of the game company and has the devs custom-make WCIs for him.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Methnerd
Summoner, whatever the equivalent is in Yggdrasil. I've always loved pet classes.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Methnerd
He would design himself as a Superman expy and waste all the money he has into making perfect NPC replicas of his parents.
Then he would just sit there, make them hug him and cry for hours and hours.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Methnerd
I would create a legion of sluts of every goddamn species the game has

TechHater
TechHater

@girlDog
Can flash defeat dragon monk of balanced builds?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Gigastrength
Watching Momon is sort of like watching Clark Kent wear a disguise while he effortlessly takes Smallville's junior football team is victory
That's actually a pretty accurate analogy. I honestly don't see the purpose of Momon in this part of the story. He seems completely superfluous.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@happy_sad
Pet classes all suck since Starwars Galaxies.
That goes for WOW and the 5 trillion shitty Korean games and failed WOW clones since.

FastChef
FastChef

@Dreamworx
mfw even Blizz knows this
mfw Hunters have a talent that let's them trade their pet using abilities with extra damage

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@TechHater
Yes.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@CodeBuns
Momon's purpose is to fulfill Ainz's hobby and is for him to personally go out and learn about the world. Shortest answer is that it's probably the most fun Ainz has and lets him scout out potential talents.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

/a/thread/130097528#p130177777

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Dreamworx
Pet classes all suck since Starwars Galaxies.

I remember the days of walking into Mos Eisley with three Bull Rancors thudding around behind me making the ground shake

dem memories man

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@FastChef
implying Beast Mastery hunter isn't literally just afking and let your pet pull crazy DPS
implying Demonology Warlock isn't fun as fuck

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Dreamworx
Pet classes generally suck because designers make the pet and the owner 50/50. End up with crap pet without good owner or sucky owner without a good pet.

They need to make it 70/30, 30/70. So you get a good owner but a dmg sponge pet or a bluff owner that relies on the pet.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@SniperWish
Became Slaanesh
not bad user

hairygrape
hairygrape

@happy_sad
The Guardians also start to think he's become Momon, so he could rule the world without resistance, because he can predict the future.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Stark_Naked
New to Galaxies
In a hunting party
Someone says she is going to call her pet.
See something appear taking up a quarter of my screen.
Zoom out -- it was the leg of a fuck huge beast.

TechHater
TechHater

@kizzmybutt
tfw will never have fun summoning millions of imps like this again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptmVIanjGnY

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Skullbone
Until the day happened. I think they wanted to replicate WoW's success, but it comes down to the fact that there was no way they could compete with WoW, and they just removed what allowed SWG to be a stand-alone game that could operate in tandem. They got too greedy for their own good.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Spamalot
Demiurge for being consistently competent.

girlDog
girlDog

@hairygrape
Like WOW Warlocks (at least till WotLK)?
I thought they were nice. You either go full Destruction/Affliction and focus on DPS while your pet pretty much does additional damage and tanks mobs from to time to time, being pretty useless overall, or you go full Demonology and get fucking strong pets, with the downside of getting raped the moment they get killed.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Methnerd
Also, what kind of NPC would you design in Yggdrasil?
A qt3.14 daughteru-character I'd adventure with and take care of, that way I'd have some sort of purpose

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Dreamworx
I'm not too big on MMOs but I play DCSS and summoners absolutely rock there. It was so fun to waltz into Gehenna with my 50-dragon army and have them wander around slaughtering everything while I stand there channeling and pumping more dragons, Asmodeus didn't even get to summon his own chums because he was covered in head to toe with my dragon army. Too bad you can't do that anymore because of summon caps/Summon Dragon revision.

Speaking of DCSS, I'd probably take a page out of mottled dragons and make a rust monster type of NPC that isn't too threatening but is tanky and can fuck up your items, so nobody takes it on. Like some bagworm loli that has a case made out of swords instead of pine needles, and if you attack her, your weapon gets added to her collection.

Needs a ranged attack not to get super fucked by mages, though. Maybe she can shoot some of the swords out.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Remember to cheer for Ainz Ooal Gown!

http://overlordmaruyama.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Zack_Tan/Volume_7_Intermission

PDL incoming for those interested/soonish. Or you could wait.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Methnerd
Books

RavySnake
RavySnake

@AwesomeTucker
We're still on 6 though. Almost got me excited.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@AwesomeTucker
XD

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Fried_Sushi
well user you are clearly forgetting the basilisk, the goblins, the goddess tree, the undead invasion.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@iluvmen
Goblins and undead are from volume 2.
Basilisk and Goddess tree are from specials and it's not like he forced himself into those.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@happy_sad
There's a lot of specialized summoning in DnD. If you're the edgy type there's the Fiendbinder, Alienist and Vermin lord. Zombies and vanilla/magical animals are there to I guess.

Skullbone
Skullbone

best meido

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Dreamworx
path of exile did it right

Booteefool
Booteefool

Would entoma beat Evileye in a one on one? Seems like it, but that vermin bane skill seems OP.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Booteefool
Entoma would have beaten all 3 of them if it weren't for that hardcounter spell.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

“Let’s see… who is my enemy?”
Damn it Ainz! Now I understand how did you made Evileye's dust-filled pussy flooding like the Niagara.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Garbage Can Lid
he's got that cool guy hero thing going.

I suppose the already knows Demi is there right?

Bidwell
Bidwell

@CodeBuns
*he already

Inmate
Inmate

@Garbage Can Lid
Being Momon lets him act out his Chuuni side. He's having a blast pretending to be Momon.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@massdebater

Also, "The clothes were luxurious, the type which most people could not get their hands on. They were high-class goods that even Hilma could not obtain."

It sounds so awkward. I'm thinking the translators want to keep the translation as close to the Japanese as possible.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@CodeBuns
How would Momon the hero of man know about some demon god king?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Methnerd
what kind of NPC would you design in Yggdrasil?
minmaxed loli oni triplets

w8t4u
w8t4u

I've started watching the anime and I get the feeling the original's way ahead, and checking the manga, that wasn't first. What's the series I want to be reading, and is it solely moonrune?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Methnerd
I would probably do all the final fantasy summons as guardians. I love them.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@w8t4u
The manga is far ahead but no one is willing to translate it.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Need_TLC
Fuckity. Is everyone here talking about it reading the untranslated scans then?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Garbage Can Lid
EvilEye is a good girl.
Shes deserves to be fucking into a mindless cock slave of Momons that will follow his every order.

girlDog
girlDog

@Snarelure
The fuck have you been reading? We're talking about the light novel translations.

farquit
farquit

@Burnblaze
How is that awkward? English isn't my first language so I'd like to know what exactly is wrong with it.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Snarelure
Most people here can read moon. You should learn it aswell if you want to read it ;^)
Just kidding, it's the novel that's ahead. https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Overlord

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

He's not an ordinary demon king, he is a demon god king!

girlDog
girlDog

@Soft_member
You know, even with the explanation "Demon God King" sounds like shit.
Actually, the "King" title itself is shit compared with cooler shit like "Emperor", "God" or "Overlord".

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Snarelure
Fuckity. Is everyone here talking about it reading the untranslated scans then?
they're reading the translated Light novels.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Inmate
@Garbage Can Lid
@Soft_member
Here, I buffed Momon accordingly.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@girlDog
The king title only refers to the race 's strongest individual. God refers probably to any lvl 80+ being.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@hairygrape
I dont think he's arguing that it's an ineffectual title. Just that it sounds stupid.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Boy_vs_Girl
You forgot hidden royalty.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@hairygrape
I know but it sounds lame.
Why not go full chunni and add "Ultimate" at the beginning?
I mean, Ultimate Demon God sounds as lame as Demon God King, but not as bad.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Nojokur
Emperor would probably be used for someone who roles over various races and king class individuals. Overlord/God are only for Ainz sama personal use.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Fried_Sushi
his 3 levels of Royalty are hidden behind "Other"
Sasuga, Ainz-sama!

takes2long
takes2long

@Boy_vs_Girl
Shouldnt all his stats be about the same as his lich form except the m.atk? Plus hes getting some boosts to str from his gear.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Methnerd
platoon of warmage catgirls

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@takes2long
Ainz's stats on his character sheet are with his Divine gear on.
Also Momon and Ainz are two different people.

massdebater
massdebater

@Nude_Bikergirl
did momon and the sod killing a few ogres and goblin really count as repelling a goblin horde?
or is that a separate special

FastChef
FastChef

@takes2long
It's not a serious chart, just a joke one that represents the strenght that Momon pretends to have.
I still believe he should be around lvl 50, though.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@farquit

The sentences are oddly structured and kind of vague. You don't normally just describe a pair of pants as just "hard to obtain." You would describe the quality of which makes them hard to obtain. Maybe it's not a translation thing, but a writing thing, but I feel like there are better ways of describing how much better Entoma's equipment is compared to Hilma's. Maybe english fantasy just takes things into too much detail, I don't know, but Overlord is pretty lazy in a lot of aspects.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Fried_Sushi
That is how the author described it more or less. And you know that the author has no actual training or academic background in writing so it comes out like that. It's a side project he began on a website too.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Methnerd
I would have my own personal group of shota/loli jobbers who take care of everything for me as I run my illicit slave business.

Techpill
Techpill

@RavySnake
Would Aura let this happen?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@CodeBuns
No he actually doesn't, he was left out of the loop and just jumped in because SOUNDS OF FIGHTING AND LARGE FIRES.

Demiurge has to ad lib the entire thing and views it as sort of a test. (AS EXPECTED OF AINZ SAMA)

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Fried_Sushi
The sentences are oddly structured and kind of vague

This statement is too vague for me to understand ironically enough. Mostly the oddly structured part cause again, second language here I don't understand.

You would describe the quality of which makes them hard to obtain.

I need an example. I'm starting to get a clue, but I don't get it.

Maybe english fantasy just takes things into too much detail, I don't know, but Overlord is pretty lazy in a lot of aspects.

Can you show a comparison? Like an excerpt from an English/Western book you enjoy that can be put side by side with the statement you find oddly structured or strangely written.

I feel like I'm totally missing some common sense when it comes to English reading your posts.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@askme
I think that's the shadow of her cloak, not the cloak itself.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Carnalpleasure
Ah, so that's why Demi looked like he was caught off guard.

Evilember
Evilember

@askme
The bottom layer of the red outline can also simply be a shadow, though I doubt it.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@viagrandad
Why would only half her dress be spiky?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Holy shit, Mare's fucking brutal.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

If the strongest being of a race gets the "King" title then would Ainz be the Lich King?

Techpill
Techpill

@Lord_Tryzalot
Also Momon and Ainz are two different people.

Elaborate

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Sir_Gallonhead
He's got -100 evil, so yeah
I don't get why he snapped her leg first, seemed unnecessary, but I guess she did attack him

likme
likme

@Techpill
At the end of Volume 9, when Ainz strides into the capital of the Kingdom as the "Sorcerer King", Momon meets him at the gate.
Momon then agrees to be Ainz's enforcer within the city.

Methshot
Methshot

@askme
@viagrandad
@Evilember
Guys what if she just peed on her cloak?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Techpill
Ainz Oaal Gown is the Overlord of Death, Ruler of Nazarick, Supreme Being. Bane of the New World, Conqueror of Kingdoms, Butcher of the Katze Plains.
Momon is the choosen hero of humanity.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@likme
That's the worst decision though. All the hate for Ainz will be heaped on Momon.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@likme
Ainz strides into the capital of the Kingdom as the "Sorcerer King",

As expected of Ainz-sama

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Booteefool
Momon asks people not to start a rebellion for his sake, and they agree.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Booteefool
Then Momon kills Aniz and be a true hero. Then Aniz can go back to being Momonga.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@likme
That's because Pandora's Actor is disguised as Ainz.
>tfw he will "betray" Ainz, "kill him", win the hearts of the people, and become ruler of the lands.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Poker_Star
no, he's the Overlord

hairygrape
hairygrape

"… That this might be our last adventure, right?"
"Please don’t say such phrases that might cause bad omens."
I fucking love this shit.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Booteefool
Momon will act as the Kingdom's representative, which means he will have a hugeton of influence in the government and every faggot who is plotting to do something against Nazarick will come up to him to ask for help.
Ainz basically became the leader of both sides, which would be cool as fuck it it wasn't just a coincidence.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Fried_Sushi
Don't be silly, user, Dopplegangers don't exist.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Has the epub been updated yet?

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Flameblow
This is the first time such an image has made me upset

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Burnblaze
coincidence
This is what he wants you to believe

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Lunatick
This

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Burnblaze
Conferences will be awkward as fuck, though.
It will just be him alone in a huge room, making noise so people think he is actually talking with someone or something.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Flameblow
But user, I never said he was a doppleganger.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@hairygrape

When was this?

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Boy_vs_Girl
I think Demiurge literally has fangirl googles.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Poker_Star
A good chance to bring PA out.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Poker_Star
Him and Burger-kun. Of course.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@BinaryMan
Volume 7.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Boy_vs_Girl
WE'RE ONLY ON VOLUME 6! STOP THAT SHIT!

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Boy_vs_Girl
Ah yeah now I remember. Shit here I thought you were referring to this chapter.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Fuzzy_Logic
AINZ*

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@BunnyJinx
Yes, timestamps and v# are your friend.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Poker_Star
that would be hilarious
doesn't he get multiple voices too after realizing he can use voice bugs

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Skullbone
We are on vol 8 user. Did you not see the 10 updates this week?

MPmaster
MPmaster

@CouchChiller
Until 6 is done I refuse to acknowledge anything past that.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@CouchChiller
Don't do this to anyone. We are on volume 6 ch 9.

iluvmen
iluvmen

For those of you who've spoiled yourselves, was it worth it?
I really don't want to skip ahead to volume 7, but the thought of waiting another MONTH is excruciating. Should I do it?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@DeathDog

It's nothing complicated, it's just lazy writing. In a situation like that, you wouldn't just say Entoma's armor is the "type which most people could not get their hands on." What makes this armor so special? Why wouldn't Hilda ever be able to obtain armor like this? In this situation, to explain to the reader the quality differences in the armor, maybe the author could've used a different kind of exposition. There was a part of the fighting where Hilda noticed how hard Entoma's armor is even though she is clearly wearing a maid's uniform. That's good exposition. The reader can infer the differences in gear quality just from a little description while they fight. There's no pause in the action. But just saying "they were high-class goods that even Hilma could not obtain" is lazy because the author has to take time out of the story to explain something to the audience.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@iluvmen
Even if there's a spoiler for what the overall story is, the actual novels are still great reads.
Maybe even better if you already know what's going on.

Evilember
Evilember

@iluvmen
Volume 7 has like 3 chapters translated so just wait till vol 6 is done.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Sharpcharm
No Demi gets BTFO by Sebas for trying to fuck over his student

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@DeathDog
Its just super formal sounding.

"He was tall, thin, and very old, judging by the silver of his hair and beard, which were both long enough to tuck into his belt. He was wearing long robes, a purple cloak that swept the ground, and high-heeled, buckled boots. His blue eyes were light, bright, and sparkling behind half-moon spectacles and his nose was very long and crooked, as though it had been broken at least twice."

vs

"Very tall they were, and the Lady no less tall than the Lord; and they were grave and beautiful. They were clad wholly in white; and the hair of the Lady was of deep gold… but no sign of age was upon them, unless it were in the depths of their eyes; for these were keen as lances in the starlight, and yet profound, the wells of deep memory."

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

>>130182273
that implies she used it during that great player invasion of Nazarick.
What the fuck are you talking about? She didn't get to fight during that invasion and even so there is no such thing as a non-rechargable ultimate power, unless it's a magic item.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@haveahappyday

How does anyone like Sebas?

girlDog
girlDog

>>130182273
Her 'ultimate power' would have taken out that group if it weren't for said hardcounter spell.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@iluvmen
If you have read all the spoilers until vol. 7 you can go ahead and read the sneak peek. Without knowing how vol. 6 ends it's a bit strange maybe.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Burnblaze
Just wait until they start losing children to Demiurge's farms, or the merchants start paying taxes instead of evading them.

The people will resent Momon for enforcing Nazarick's demands.

WebTool
WebTool

>>130182273
Did she not use one on the house ? And they recharge after a few days at most

RumChicken
RumChicken

@haveahappyday
wanting Demiurge to get blown the fuck out

askme
askme

@VisualMaster

wow, the second part is very Tolkien-ey

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

>>130182273
She had already used it to eliminate all enemies inside the mansion with a single breath, leaving behind two more instances when she could use it.

niggapls

TreeEater
TreeEater

@WebTool
Yes, it was clearly stated in this chapter. That user is just fucking retarded.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Gigastrength
Demiurge understood that Ainz wants to leave a good impresson, so he won't take anyone to his farms but those who openly oppose their rule.
Also, the Kingdom is a shithole torn between two factions fucking each other while an underground criminal organisation goes around doing their shit while not suffering any kind of punishment.
Nazarick's rule will greatly improve the lives of the Kingdom's citizens. The only one who will complain will be corrupt nobles and jewish merchants.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

>>130182273
Entoma has a three-use ultimate power and it's not rechargeable. She used up the final two on the Evileye. Because she started the fight with one charge already used, that implies she used it during that great player invasion of Nazarick.
That implies there is some sort of memory effect since that great fight for the guardians of Nazarick.
nah dude
its a 3 a day spell she used the first one when they took over the mansion

none of the pleiades fought any real player ever
nobody made it past floor 8 and they were on 9 or 10

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@askme
That's probably because it is.
It's literally a description of Galadriel. The first one was of course albus dumbledore.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

I thought Entoma was like, level 55 or something and the Blue Rose besides Evileye was 30. I knew it was coming but I still don't see how Entoma couldn't wreck those scrubs faster than she did.

Techpill
Techpill

@Sir_Gallonhead
@ZeroReborn
I don't see why people react like "man he's brutal". She tried to attack him with a deadly venomous snake! And he just broke her leg. Fact is fact she tried to kill him, he broke her leg and his order is to capture her, not to be gentle. Like Spetsnaz, SWAT or SAS wouldn't do same shit.

likme
likme

@Dreamworx
Because she's hungry. Yup, hungry.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@TurtleCat
Thank you, friend.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Dreamworx
because Evileye brought bug spray.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Techpill

He could've carried her out on his shoulder or used magic to knock her out or something. Dragging her out by the hair is pretty brutal, and we're not talking about a couple feet here either. It's probably many many miles back to Nazarick where torture awaits.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Dreamworx
She was cautious of them being stronger so she wasted timed measuring their strenght and playing with them long enough for Evileye to come and fuck her over with her magical bug spray.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Dreamworx
Because she wasn't taking them seriously until they dirtied her maid uniform and then insulted her pride.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Dreamworx
She was being overly cautious. One of them was dressed as a ninja, a class that requires level 60. If Entoma is 55, then she believed her opponent was stronger, and held back rather than dive in with reckless abandon.

eGremlin
eGremlin

Best meido.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Enhanced Maximize Magic: Crystal Dagger」!”

A larger crystal dagger than the one before appeared in mid-air and shot out! This sword did purely physical damage and could not be resisted. On top of this, by further applying special magic skills, it was able to easily break through defences.

Kind of reminds me of Shalltear's Divine Spear attack.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@DeathDog
There's no way Mare would drag her all the way back to Nazarick.
Demiurge almost definitely set up a portal system for prisoners and breeding fodder.

Inmate
Inmate

@DeathDog
Dragging her out by the hair is pretty brutal
Breaking her leg was okay, this is the real offense here.

I mean, the leg is justified given the circumstances but that shit is clumsy as fuck. You'd drop her like a dozen times across the way. You aren't being evil for the sake of practicality, that's just plain being a dick.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@DeathDog
hes short even if she was on his shoulders she'd still be dragging on the ground
any magic cast on a new world lvl 1-10 human would probably kill them instantly even if it wasnt the intent

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Lord_Tryzalot
well. Evileye IS a vampire like Shalltear.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Lord_Tryzalot
Speaking of her magic. That spell she uses to move the damage from Demi to her MP pool is bugging me. Demi smashing her should have completely drained all her MP.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@DeathDog
It seems particularly brutal because it's Mare, but it really isn't that bad compared to some of the other NPCs.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Burnblaze
Vampires have a lot of ways of fighting, Evileye on the other hand, has a rather suspiciously similar skillset to Shalltear.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@happy_sad
Maybe she has a hugefuck MP pool like Ainz.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Spazyfool
Like Ainz

I doubt anybody has as much MP as Ainz.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@happy_sad
Maybe like shalltear she can use blood as mana. She did kill many bugs and gagaran+tia had to heal themselves a lot of times.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Stark_Naked
I didn't mean as much as Ainz, just that she has a huge mana pool too.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Spazyfool
She's obviously nowhere near his level and had already used a lot by that point.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Spamalot
@Spazyfool
eh, I guess there's just too many factors for that one. Guess I'll drop it.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@happy_sad
@Spazyfool
or you know those skills that gives you immune to death for 1 hit but leaves you at 1hp, maybe it's just like that

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Illusionz
What if the people from the NW are just reincarnations of the players and NPCs of Yggdrasil?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

I like that Evileye created that magic. That means that new magic can be created. And Ainz being the MLG caster he is could come up with new stuff.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Why the fuck is Demiurge playing Demon King when he's supposed to be punishing those who insulting Ainz

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Stark_Naked
They already accomplished that mission. And Ainz gave Demi permission to do some extra ops stuff on the side.

SniperGod
SniperGod

I want to make love to Entoma and start by peeling off her mask bug and kissing her true mouth

Do you think she has a clitoris bug whose entire body is used to make her feel pleasure when licked

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@CodeBuns
Flaming Sharknado

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@TreeEater
There's like 8 places they need to attack

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Pivx fanart of Evileye about to be raped by a centipede

Fuck that was fast.

Techpill
Techpill

@Lord_Tryzalot
Pic pls.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@happy_sad
If you're willing to prestige, Malconvoker can majorly beef up your summoning power.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@SniperGod
Just give her some coffee. That should make her happy.

@LuckyDusty
would be sick

@BunnyJinx
That was the extra part of the plan though.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Lord_Tryzalot
WHERE YOU NIGGER

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Lord_Tryzalot
Isn't Volume 6 already released in Japan, since like months/years ago?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Lord_Tryzalot
fast
That volume came out months ago.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Lord_Tryzalot
fast
You aren't fooling anyone

JunkTop
JunkTop

@happy_sad
Lolimancer.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@happy_sad
Alienist? Alien summoner?

Skullbone
Skullbone

@SniperGod
She needs to get a pair of ground pearl/honeypot ant bugs that she can stuff in her maid dress to give her huge tits and the ability to lactate honey.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Fuzzy_Logic
Uploaded on 8/24/2015
Close enough. Some new Narberal stuff too.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Burnblaze
You are outright lying. We can just go there and see if we have accounts, which I do.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Gigastrength
because Evileye brought bug spray.
Evileye to come and fuck her over with her magical bug spray.

Tell me this makes more sense in the LN.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@TreeEater
Go ahead. Search using イビルアイ

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Stark_Naked
It reads fine bruh

Inmate
Inmate

@Stark_Naked
basically evileye knew an anti-insect magic, and used it to great effect to melt Entoma's face-bug off, and then wear her down, while two fighters kept her at bay. typical situation where a mage with the right magic and some tanking support can take care of a superior foe.

Really this wouldn't have been a fight had Entoma not been playing with her food for the first half of the battle. by the time she got serious she was outnumbered.

Evilember
Evilember

I think it'll be neat if Evileye fell in love with Momon because she's really an NPC of a dead player and she is unconsciously trying to fill the void her master left when he croaked.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Burnblaze
I apologize for doubting you, it's just that this isn't in the Japanese language Overlord tag for some reason.

TechHater
TechHater

@Stark_Naked
There was a part of the fighting where Hilda noticed how hard Entoma's armor is even though she is clearly wearing a maid's uniform. That's good exposition.

So you want some kind of comparison line between the Kingdom goods that a wealthy person like Hilma (not Hilda) and Mare's clothes? I can understand that thank you for pointing it out. It seems I still need a lot of practice before such things become more obvious for me, or maybe I was just too engrossed in reading further to care.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Narberal a cute. A cute!

girlDog
girlDog

@CodeBuns
http://ihititwithmyaxe.tumblr.com/post/22331104288/breaking-dd-35-the-locate-city-nuke

tumblr
I'm lazy and it was the first hit on google, sue me.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Evilember
I think it'll be neat if Evileye fell in love with Momon because she's really an NPC of a dead player and she is unconsciously trying to fill the void her master left when he croaked.
no, she falls in love for the same reason warlord Emi fell in love with Ainz. Because bones are sexy, and papabones is a fucking chick magnet who saved her from death.

askme
askme

@idontknow
literally a helpless wetter

Evileye diaper art when?

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Bidwell
Spoilers? Are they on the wiki?

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Firespawn
No worries. I actually stumbled upon it by complete accident looking for the source of the Evileye looking for her mask picture (which I can't find apparently).

@GoogleCat
She's finally gaining some attention!

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Methnerd
What kind of NPC would Batman design in Yggdrasil?
Parents. Sons who don't eventually leave or die.

What else were you expecting?

WebTool
WebTool

@VisualMaster
Thank you for this example, though is it possible that in the instance of this chapter it's less of an offense? I ask that because the description of Dumbledore is more than double the length of Mare's clothes so to me it seems to drag on, whereas with Mare his clothes were given short and concise points.

But on the other hand, I can't say I understand the appeal of the latter example, even if I dislike the first. I understand Lord of the Rings is very old school, but lines like "yet profound, the wells of deep memory." just completely flies over my head.

I bet I sound like some new generation casualfag trying to defend stream lined 'RPGs' but I swear I'm just terrible at English. Please elaborate on why the latter is good writing, I know it's fancier but that's it. I do not understand the value of the 'frills' so to speak.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@girlDog
tfw I had a friend like that in my pnp group

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Firespawn
Yes, there are summaries for all volumes.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@MPmaster
Makes Nazarick poor

But that's not true. He's actually paying the bills for everything with his work to prevent Nazarick's treasury from being drained up.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Boy_vs_Girl
He needs a stat bar for [Calcium]. It's off the chart.

Techpill
Techpill

@TreeEater
Even if he paid with YGGDRASIL gold, they literally had millions (if not billions) of YGGDRASIL money.

The treasury holds metric tons of gold.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Evil_kitten
the same reason warlord Emi fell in love with Ainz
But she's lovers with Nphrea and thousands of swarthy goblins.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Although insect-made weapons were powerful, they had many weaknesses. One was that the weapon summoning consumed a large amount of time.

I don't get it, did each spider take like 30 seconds to pop out? Why would Tia and Gagaran allow that to happen? If it was instant then how does it take a lot of time?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@WebTool

It leaves everything to the imagination yet is descriptive enough to be thoughtful. It is very different from the writing today which tries to describe everything as much as possible, or in the case of Overlord, to leave most of the story up to narration.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Techpill
They use metric tons of gold just to revive one floor guardian.

Evilember
Evilember

@BinaryMan

Japanese people can only think in turn based combat for their fiction battles.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@hairygrape
Which is why he's purchasing wheat to put into his money converting box to get more Yggdrasil gold.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@WebTool
You're a native English speaker right? Not that it makes much of a difference if you are.

The answer is simple, taste and sophistication. Now, that sounds really fucking arrogant, but it's totally true. When you spend a lot of time doing something you develop a more sophisticated opinion of it. For instance, Sheeky Forums frequently criticises anime for things that most people don't even notice, and /g/ can spend DAYS arguing over tiny details in the representation of computers in media.

When you spend several years reading hundreds or thousands of books, you get a more comprehensive hold in the English language, and you start to appreciate artful use of it and dislike simplistic kludges.

Put another way, the reason it sounds stilted and weird to me and not to you is that, somewhere in the giant pile of books I've read, I've seen someone do it better. It's like those stories about people eating fairy food and it's so good that they starve to death when they go home because normal human food tastes like dirt to them afterwards.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@hairygrape
That's my point, Nazarick is in no way poor, Victim is designed around being revived any time someone gets to him. The whole point of creating Nazarick was to have an actual incentive for players to go after the hardest dungeon in the game. If 1500 players were willing to risk raiding it, the treasury must be worthwhile.

WebTool
WebTool

@hairygrape
He did that ONCE and is very much looking to not have to ever do that again.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@hairygrape
The pile of gold wasn't THAT huge.

And they still have a lot of items that they can convert into money.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@WebTool
i think the point he's trying to get across is the "frills" give context to the information.

saying something like the maid clothes are impossible to buy means nothing

saying the maid clothes were impossible to buy because the materials composing them are impossible to create and out of this world. adds context and a explanation of why X is so great

farquit
farquit

Already have Overlord thread open
Open it again when browsing catalog

Why is Papa Bones so enticing?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@farquit
We keep wanting to see shit get fucking absolutely wrecked by a cute skeleton and his happy children.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Raving_Cute
It leaves everything to the imagination yet is descriptive enough to be thoughtful

Would that apply to the line that I point that flew over my head? I think in this age people want accuracy first and foremost, even at the expense of imagination.

While I think imagination is very valuable, the writing of ages past did not have wide spread media to fill their needs, and relied on imagination to make up for what their plays or scripts couldn't deal with. It also might have been influenced by the literacy rate and the culture of the readers themselves no?

I bring this point up because in Asia a famous novel is Romance of Three Kingdoms, but if you read it the story is very dry and formal, almost the complete opposite to The Lord of the Rings. Yet even to this day it's still super popular.

I do like the concept of what you said though, since I can relate to that. Many books that turned into movies I always end up saying "I didn't imagine X to look like that or Y to sound like that" and almost always preferred what I imagined in my head.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@BinaryMan
spider
They were talisman summons that was instance just like her thunderbirds. Her insect weapons, are the bullets, centipede whip, that insect sword she had in the beginning

If I remember right, that sentence was said when she was summoning her bullets while the spiders took care of the two

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Entoma is so fucking cute. I want to kidnap people and feed them to her.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@PackManBrainlure
Here.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

bug bullets wrecking everything
stop using bug bullets because...reasons

Why does Japan keep doing this dumb trope?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Gigastrength
Still kinda disappointed she has no real mouth or tongue. She can't give cutemeido blowjobs.

Techpill
Techpill

@Garbage Can Lid
they died though

SniperWish
SniperWish

@BinaryMan
Yes, this is good. You are a master.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Crazy_Nice

What are you talking about? You can literally fuck her throat anytime you wanted. She could even hand you her throat for you to use as a pocket pussy

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Garbage Can Lid
Too much time to generate
adamantine shield blocks it
Evileye showed up

Skullbone
Skullbone

@lostmypassword
No I am not, English is my second language I started 3 years ago.

The answer is simple, taste and sophistication.

I can understand that. I was merely trying to see if there was a way for them to water it down so even I can understand it, because I want to appreciate the stuff I read better.

I get the impression there's no such shortcut though, so thanks anyways.

@Booteefool
Oh I understand that, I didn't reply to him but I pointed it out here @TechHater

I was mainly curious about the more complex use of English which makes me go ??? instead of even forming a picture in my head. The main line I have a problem with imagining is "yet profound, the wells of deep memory".

Maybe it's something I'm missing out, but I have always been unable to relate to those statements that pertain the eyes. For example like how Sebas could read Climb just from looking into his eyes. I can't ever do that in real life, nor do I understand how that even works in a fictional sense.

So when you give a vague line like "wells of deep memory" all that clicks in my head is memory = age therefore deep memory = old? But unlike the descriptions of the rest of that post I can't even create a mental picture of how such eyes are supposed to look like.

Evilember
Evilember

@Crazy_Nice
Eh? Spiders have mouths, just no lips or tongue.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@SniperWish
It helps that I had a True Warrior mockup already done

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Skullbone
But Gagaran didn't exactly give her time to summon it or the shield/sword nor did it say she was slowly summoning the spider. I understand the concept but it feels like I missed out on 10 or so lines.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Evilember
just no lips or tongue.
I'm fairly sure those are necessary for a good blowjob.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@King_Martha
@Techpill

She had more bug bullets she didn't use, they just flew away or some shit. She destroyed the adamantium shield easily and said herself she could've kept using it. Why doesn't Goku just continuously use kamehameha over and over if he has problems in each fight?

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Fried_Sushi
RoTK still explains why their strategy is going to work, how they prepared for this here assault, where they need to attack for what reason and so on. You know why things are happening.

But here you just get "alright, so this bitch has expensive clothing". We don't know whether she has expensive clothing because it's a cash item gift from her creator, because she runs a man-eating giant silkworm industry in her spare time or because it's not actually clothing at all and we've been staring at her bare, velvety carapace all along, we're just told that her bug bling is exceptional with no idea about why it's exceptional.

The later scene where she gets pissed because her outfit gets damaged is much better in that regard.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Garbage Can Lid
How is that any different than a villain of the week's super powers wrecking all super heroes and then superman comes along and wrecks it because reasons? Or vice versa where superman is so invincible yet out comes a new villain and just stomps him because reasons?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

I think it was because Demi was trying his best not to insta-gib her like he did with the other two.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Skullbone
If it makes you feel better, nobody can understand what goes on inside Sebas's head besides "muh honor".

likme
likme

@iluvmen

It is against the Japanese code of honor to attack someone that is charging up their attacks. Didn't you ever watch Dragonball Z? It's how they lost WW2.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Raving_Cute
Why would he try not to?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Raving_Cute
Strongest member of Blue Rose watches her two teammates get instagibbed
barely manages to escape with her life
Dark Hero Momon appears, saves her, and takes out the Demon God King
It makes for a great narrative, as expected of Ainz-sama's forethought and planning.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@SniperGod
I was mostly pointing out RoTK's descriptions of the characters and their behavior/dialogue. Also if you compare RoTK to The Ravages of Time, even how the strategies come into play and their reasoning looks very dated and stiff in comparison.

5mileys
5mileys

@Stark_Naked
fair enough

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@StrangeWizard

the only witness is hysterical woman who is the least popular member of their hero team

What a dumb plan

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Garbage Can Lid
God that's hot. You think she throat-fucks herself? Just to clean it out of course.

idontknow
idontknow

@SniperWish
no adult content. Can't touch them or feel their boobies.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@viagrandad
But what about those other series? Even anime and manga? Every time people say "I can see it in your eyes" I always say in my head "I can't see shit what are you talking about? Do you have 100/20 vision or something?"

@likme
I thought this was Overlord, where even fodder like the workers prepare 1000x as much and act 1000x more rational. But I understand I guess, sometimes you just have to use cliches.

I just don't seem to see a line that tells me it happened.

massdebater
massdebater

@SniperGod
We don't know whether she has expensive clothing because it's a cash item gift from her creator

The maid outfit is obviously from the creators.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Evil_kitten
She can still confirm that:
the evil demon was strong enough to take out Gagaran like a fly
Momon was able to defeat him

It's enough to get Momon regarded as a stronger warrior than Gagaran, at least.

5mileys
5mileys

@Carnalpleasure
I thought Momon was bumming around in a different city though.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@iluvmen
I don't understand your question, man.

When Entoma shot her first bladed insect Tia saved Gagaran and they both were at distance away from Entoma. When Entoma spotted Tia and notice that she was a ninja she started dropping spider talisman. While the spider talisman we're dropping they we're rushing toward Entoma and the four spiders intercepted them. While they were busy, bug bullets were forming in Entoma's hand.

Flameblow
Flameblow

These were three centimetre long insects that had a metallic shine, with a triangle-shaped body and razor sharp tip. Its appearance was very similar to that of a bullet. As for this insect’s use, of course, was consistent with its bullet-like form.
triangle-shaped body
very similar to that of a bullet
bullet-like form
triangle-shaped body

Someone please tell me how this is supposed to look. Just an MS Paint figure would do.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Garbage Can Lid
"eyes" refers not only to the actual physical organs, but also the area of face around the eyes, like eybrows, eyelids, etc...
Take a picture of someone and put your hand over their mouth, looking only at the eyes. What expression can you see?


As for the bug things, it doesn't take long, only a second or two, but bug summoning isn't instant. The bugs appear from the surroundings, jumping or flying out of shadows/corners/etc and landing on Entoma. You can see how later in the fight she summons another swarm of bullet-bugs but before they can all get ready to fire Evileye kills them.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@5mileys
He probably got a call since the princess was planning the raids.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Methnerd
But that's practically instantaneous unless Tia and Gagaran just stood still for awhile. How is that a draw back?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Flameblow
Like bedbugs?

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Flameblow
From the side, not the front.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Stark_Naked

Even in volume 7 some podunk bitch ass adventurers think the demon king was a scrub and Momon made everything up.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Spamalot
Are you mistaking her spiders as insect weapons? They're her summons.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@MPmaster
well, that shit happened, what, 700 years ago or something? Can't really blame him.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@SniperGod
This makes more sense to me, but doesn't that directly conflict with the words "look into their eyes", mainly the "into" part? How do I look into their eyebrows or eyelids etc etc? I can understand looking into the eyes cause ya know it's kinda like watery and has a reflection but everything else?

You can see how later in the fight she summons another swarm of bullet-bugs but before they can all get ready to fire Evileye kills them.

I see, though if I can't say I look forward to Ainz vs Shalltear because of this. From how Sky's team translates these chapters, it seems people like to call out their spells. I cannot imagine how you can pronounce "Triple Maximize: Insert Long Spell Name Here" in the span of less than a second in close quarter combat.

It's probably the most shonen part of the series. I understand the concept since it is MMO based, but yeah even in MMOs you sure as hell don't see casters pop out some text whenever they shoot arcane missiles.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Guys, some perspective:

1. Entoma is a multi-role battle meido. She doesn't really excel in one area (besides being a qt).
2. She recognizes Tia has a ninja, which makes her cautious as the minimum requirement for ninjas in YAGG is Level 60, which is her than her.
3. Gargan and Tia didn't really matter in the fight -- they were just distractions / annoyances.
4. Evileye just so happened to have a custom magic she developed to fight a Demon god that had insect powers. It melted all of Entoma's best stuff and caused her a lot of pain, and being multi-role Entoma's resistance wasn't strong enough.

Probably any other of the Pleisades could have won that fight the way it developed. Except for maybe CZ.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

What are the chances that Evileye is going to be sacrificed by Momon as the second vampire he came to kill?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@lostmypassword
That would be brutal. Even by Overlord terms.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Ignoramus
except for maybe CZ
She'd probably have an easy time.

Strong opponents show up
Uwaah~
*DAKKA* *DAKKA* *DAKKA* *DAKKA*

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Nude_Bikergirl
they are discussing it like a month later but to be fair they are in a completely different country thats not the kingdom

the demon king is demiurge not one of the greed kings

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Illusionz
No, when she drops the spider talisman and it summons Tia and Gagaran don't seem to try to stop/interrupt it, so that concludes either they are dumb or it summons really fast. For example since the talisman fell on the floor Tia would say, throw a kunai at it and if Entoma tried to block it her stance would be broken making it a good trade.

But they didn't do that at all, which suggests it summons within 1-2 seconds max like someone else said. That's not all that big of a draw back, well maybe I am too used to typical RPGs, in Yggdrasil and NW it seems all your spells are instant cast except the big ones.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@VisualMaster
You have peripheral vision. Looking into someone's eyes directs your focus onto them, letting you take in all the details.

likme
likme

@5mileys
It was stated that he was heading towards the capital in vol 5. It was very short so I don't blame you if you missed it.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@LuckyDusty
tfw CZ will never go to Cairne Village to teach Enri's goblins about dakka
tfw Enri won't be called Warboss

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Ignoramus
Entoma got reckt deal with it. In fact Evileye should be appointed head meido by Ainz.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Ignoramus
weaker because didn't specialize in something, having a half-baked build
underestimated the enemy
the enemy pulled a sudden trick and fucked her gimmick
any other member of her group would have won
So she is Succulent?

Inmate
Inmate

@BlogWobbles
I want to see an edit of that one manga page where the MC is beating in the skull of the tomboy as she confesses to him with Momon and Evileye.

Methshot
Methshot

@MPmaster
Which one? From the chapters translated so far the only possible person who could think is is Eruya, and he backed down like a little bitch the moment Ainz came out of the carriage, nor did he dare to challenge him to a 1 on 1 like the elder.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Ignoramus
Gaga&Tia&Ivileye trio can keep a fight against CZ & Solution, since the latter is weak against magic. Nabe would be troublesome for her high tier magic and the same goes for Yuri with higher combat abilities.

Lupus a shit, A SHIT.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

To moon readers, is there any blowback on Entoma for losing to humans? That's got to be some disgraceful shit for a creation of a Supreme Being to lose to lower life forms.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Spazyfool
Lupus a shit for making Ainz mad

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Sharpcharm
No, Ainz says she did a good job and deserves a boon. She asks to be the one to fight Evileye again and rip out her vocal cords before killing her.

askme
askme

@Sharpcharm
No, he even grants her a wish for her hard work.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Sharpcharm
Nigga how have you read five and a half volumes and not yet realised that Ainz doesn't think like that?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@w8t4u
Overlord really hates hybrids. Makes me wonder if the author has some bad experience with them. In fact I still wonder if as a heteromorphic race whether or not someone can obtain more than one race tree.

Cause while there are talks of multiple forms, we've yet to see someone like say, go from a vampire and turn into an ogre. If you are a vampire, you get vampire related transformations. Slime gets slime types, etc etc.

The closest one to different is Yuri Alpha, zombie -> dullahan but it's not a big stretch.

So even for race mix ups it seems the author does not like multi classing.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Sharpcharm
Ainz gives her some icecream, sat her on his lap and said everything is going to be alright.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Sharpcharm
Papa bones would probably lure evileye somewhere as Monmon just so Entoma can have her wish and vengeance. As a good father should.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

that Mare
my dick

cum2soon
cum2soon

@BinaryMan

The author likes Mare though and he's a druid, and if Baldur's Gate 2 has taught me anything about D&D it's that druids are just shitty priests.

Evilember
Evilember

Hugs when?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Evilember
Tuesday. Unless they don't do it.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Sharpcharm
Just to let her die by that self-crafted super effective counter spell of Evileye?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@w8t4u
underestimated the enemy
Did we read the same chapter? All this shit happened because she was too careful and the only reason they managed to beat her is because Ivileye pulled a can of Raid out of her ass, and they were still almost dead by the time they beat her.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@BinaryMan
zombie -> dullahan but it's not a big stretch.
Zombies are mindless undead, dullahans are faes with magic powers, it is a pretty big stretch.

askme
askme

@Evilember
Wait for censored to be censored while she spills censored

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@idontknow
I can't find this on pivx. Anybody got a link to the artists page?

WebTool
WebTool

@Garbage Can Lid
Was Mare the one who broke her ankle or was that Entoma?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Sir_Gallonhead
She was cautious but still thought she was stronger than them and could easly kill them till the very end.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@cum2soon
I don't get it, I thought druids are just one kind of class. What does that have to do with hybrids?

Also level 100s don't count, you can't be level 100 without being a hybrid anyway right? Even Ainz who went from skeleton mage all the way to eclipse had lots of levels to spare.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@WebTool
Mare, he's the girly dominant shota Sheeky Forums needs

Firespawn
Firespawn

@happy_sad
Yggdrasil dullahans could just be ya know, a perfectly preserved zombie, with their head not attached properly. I mean Hyou Yi certainly didn't shoot magic and elements when it shot down suns.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@CodeBuns
She was pissed the whole last part of the fight.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@TreeEater
Alienists summon, command, bind and serve the creatures of the Far Realm.

The Far Realm contains an infinite number of layers, these layers range from inches thick to miles, and it is possible to perceive multiple layers simultaneously. These layers can grow, spawn further layers, breathe and possibly die.

To look through these layers is to invite madness for in the far distance one can spy creatures of such size that they dwarf continents, and these creatures are but specs when compared to those which can only be dimly observed through the mere ten-thousand-thousand layers that separate it from the viewer.

The Far Realm is home to many powerful and unspeakable beings ripped from the nightmares of the darkest minds of the waking world, beings so unfathomable that their very existence is a perversion of reality itself. These beings are governed by lords of unimaginable power and knowledge completely alien.

The Far Realm is a plane far outside the others and often not included in the standard cosmology. It is sometimes referred to simply as "Outside", because in many cosmologies it is literally outside reality as mortals understand it.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@CodeBuns
She fucking retreats and calls Demiurge for backup. She was well aware towards the end that she wasn't going to win.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Ainz's problem is that he's a shitty parent who has no concept of discipline, so his kids would turn out to be horrible psychopaths if half of them weren't maneaters to begin with.

Put an actual 70-something grandma in his place and you'd get world peace in like two weeks flat.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@BinaryMan
Overlord really hates hybrids.
It's more along the lines that they're some of the more easily-exploited at low levels. They're jack-of-all-trades that don't have any overwhelming advantage one way or another outside of synergistic gimmicks until they get farther in their builds.

For the New World inhabitants, that's as far as they can go (Succulent being the prime example). For multi-role characters like Entoma, it's to give them some sort of weakness that others can attempt to exploit (like her resistances not being high enough for the powerful, but honestly nothing grand Evileye).

Case in point, the Level 100 "I will wreck you and laugh at your pain" build of Demiurge is just impossible for Evileye to even comprehend and he just shrugs off her shit.

Hybrids are just whipping boys because they have at least some weaknesses that aren't coincidental asspulls ("oh noes you set me on fire when fire was my only weakness!")

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@DeathDog
So basically Eldritch Abominations Summoner?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

all of our members must participate in gainful employment so that grinding hurts more
Explain this faggotry.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Burnblaze
It's so that everyone could afford to pay to win.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Burnblaze
It was a P2W game, no-money NEETs would just be deadweight.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@cum2soon
if Baldur's Gate 2 has taught me anything about D&D it's that druids are just shitty priests.
In real Dnd 3.5, Druids joined Clerics in the CoDzilla formation. In essence, they were overpowered, along with Clerics, in terms of their versatility. They could be competent fighters with access to mid-tier weapons/armor or support members (giant-ass useful magic/skills repertoire), but also had access to fairly powerful magic (namely both arcane and divine magic, of which healing magic is a giant-ass boon).

Lakyus is probably sort of an example of Maruyama taking a lot from 3.5. She's not only a charismatic party face, but a front-line fighter AND able to use healing magic, compared to the one-trick ponies her friends are.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Spazyfool
Solution is immune to physical attacks. Only Evileye would be a danger. Garagan and Tia would have been absorbed before Evileye arrived too.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Burnblaze
So that they have money to pay for shit that makes grinds hurt LESS.
For paying real monies for imaginary data items, they get more for less of their limited time playing in the standard MMO grind.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Burnblaze
The strongest known player in the game so far is Touch Me, an old geezer who looks like Sebas in real life.

Probably because 100+ years from now, people literally grew up playing vidya. So at that point age no longer matters as much when you've been playing games from the time you are born to when you have white hair.

If anything it makes those who are older much scarier. Imagine some 60 year old gaming thoroughbred.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Emberfire
Garagan and Tia would have been absorbed
Gagaran
I cannot begin to imagine how engorged Solution would be after eating Gagaran. She's bigger and more massive than most men.

Ainz: Solution! What the hell did you eat?! You're huge!
Solution: Ainz-sama, I'm not fat, I'm bulking. If you excuse me, I have a workout to continue. Please help me off the ground.

TechHater
TechHater

@Illusionz
Solution inherits Gagaran's legacy, muscles and face
Actually likes the face, keeps it on during workout sessions
I didn't think it was possible for best maid to get better but here you go

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Illusionz
I'm not fat, I'm bulking

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Spamalot
what a disjointed translation. Hard to read.

Inmate
Inmate

@Nojokur
more like translators phrase of choise

StonedTime
StonedTime

@AwesomeTucker
Don't forget animal companions, which with proper builds and pre-buffing could out-perform other player characters. They also had crazy battlefield control. Their summoning magic was a little weaker than a wizard/cleric's, but their ability to summon up faeries gave them some unique options.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Spazyfool
Translation was fine. I don't think you've read a lot of LNs.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Stark_Naked
Older players have slower reflexes. That's why in most of the big tournaments (fighting games, Starcraft, etc) it's incredibly rare for anyone over the age of 30 to be able to compete.

Methshot
Methshot

@viagrandad
@Garbage Can Lid
shaka-shaka-shaka-shaka-shaka-shaka-shaka-shaka-shaka

cum2soon
cum2soon

@iluvmen
Well, none of that matters when people can whale their way into victory.

When a game allows players to put their own custom-made NPCs and items into it for money, I'd consider either cashing out myself or quitting. So in a way Ainz & co. brought the downfall of their game upon themselves.

girlDog
girlDog

@cum2soon
With its business model, it's a miracle Yggdrasil lasted as long as it did, what with being a micropayment model.

It's what pissed me off about Ayakashi Ghost Guild. No matter how much you tried, your RNG results for good drops/shit was always too low unless you just plain bought your way into strength and higher tiers with cash items.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@girlDog
The gacha model works fine in Asia.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@girlDog
Perhaps in the future all vidya is micro transaction shit. Wouldn't surprise me as that's what publishers seem to want.

girlDog
girlDog

@AwesomeTucker
It would sink itself in other regions with more sense (which more or less just leaves the US/Europe market, considering Asia is the only other big market). That shit's just plain annoying, even if you give it a reasonable plot advancement and cute girls.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@lostmypassword
Man I really want to see more Lovecraftian themed stuff, I just can't wait to read about how the Dark Youngs wreck everything. qt3.14 Nyarlatothep when?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

There are people out there who think that everything was part of Ainz's plan
Not noticing Demiurge's fear is the same as Shalltear or Cocytus after thinking that they were fucking up Ainz's plans

Inmate
Inmate

@StonedTime
If I recall in the WN, the battle between the Dark Young and the Kingdom's armyis like a fully loaded dump truck crashing into a swarm of rats.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@girlDog
Yeah, that model only works when there's nothing to compete over (so no ranking/tournament style stuff) or it is possible for non-paying players to compete on near-equal grounds (like in Valkyrie Crusade where you can accumulate a bunch of swords and then go to town for ranking instead of buying your supplies) and cash options are for marginal power/to get new cute girls even though your old vanilla deck/build is fine for 99% of game content.

@AwesomeTucker
Most gacha games have a life expectancy of a year or so before its players peter out and find other cute girl games to pour cash over. The gacha system only "works" in the sense that the company has run off with wads of cash by that point and can release a similar game two months later.

RumChicken
RumChicken

Ainz-sama.

“I’LL kiLL yOu!”

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Dreamworx
To Demiurge's credit, he recovers far more quickly than the previous two.

massdebater
massdebater

@StonedTime
qt3.14 Nyarlatothep
Well, honestly, that's more an NPC-creation matter. Like, everybody that's "pretty" in Nazarick should be looking like hell.
Solution should be slime, Narberal should be a skin-toned haniwa-face, Entoma would be a shambling pile of giant insects, etc, in their base forms.
They only look so nice because Nazarick in its prime had literal CG model artists as members to create personalized individual NPCs who were beautiful/handsome, as opposed to their base models which no doubt were shitty/generic.

Inmate
Inmate

@BunnyJinx
all are like that? the text simply didn't flow. Weird expressions used everywhere. Many sentences should have been reworded.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@RumChicken
I want to know more about how service guarantees citizenship in Nazarick.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@massdebater
Funny things is that some of the nicer folk in Nazarick are often aesthetically terrifying, such as Nigredo and Pestonya, although the latter to a lesser degree.

Evilember
Evilember

@RumChicken
Those starship trooper movie bug designs were amazing.
Too bad it had nothing to do with the book at all, which was fantastic.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Methnerd
Don't know about Batman but I'd make a dwarfbro.
Jack of all trade type (metallurgy/smiting/mace/mechanic) instead of minmaxing him as a sideline crafter or a main line berserker.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@RavySnake
YGGDRASSIL/New World
not minmaxing
Prepare for your dwarf to get raped by even the shittiest NPCs.

likme
likme

@Inmate
That's because moon is a silly language and most translators do a pretty literal job. They could probably rewrite it into a more English form but then half of their potential readers would sperg out about losing the author's intent or something.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Inmate
I didn't read the chapter released today too-too closely, but it's par for the course for LN translations.

You have to realize LN translators are in something of a bind.
They have to translate the completely-different grammar structure of Japanese into English.

They can go two general ways: "pure" translation, or "fluent."
With the former, you get fairly clunky, overly-literal language and sentence structures.
With the latter, you get accusations of not translating properly certain nuances (and run the risk of doing just that, since prose Japanese is largely contextual for some awful reason).

You really just can't win. At the very least, Skythewood honestly does pretty good translations in terms of the middle ground between the two routes above. They can't help it if Maruyama and most other LNs have a certain level of "bullshit-explanation exposition" that cannot be worded in a manner that's not absolute crap.

The Raildex author suffers from this immensely, if you've tried reading his stuff.

Methshot
Methshot

@BinaryMan
Demiurge is truly based. Is retard meido also there? I imagine she'd be terrible at the whole improv thing.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@likme
half of their potential readers would sperg out about losing the author's intent or something
Good point. Yeah, making it sound sensible is not worth the risk of having to deal with that class of autists.

Besides, it's not like they're translating high literature, it's just cheap fun entertainment written by some dude as a side job.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@iluvmen
DwarfBRO man.
He's there to follow me around and get himself in situations where I have to save him.
<3

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@massdebater
So more like the bottom row than the top?

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Evil_kitten
And thus we can see here the superiority of non-"real" robot girls. They're always honest about who they are.

likme
likme

@massdebater
M-maybe Ainz-sama will find a way to create another npc... one can dream...

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@ZeroReborn
shit nigga

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Evil_kitten
Trueform Entoma is cuter than her disguise.

Look at these teeny fangs, awww.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Dreamworx
get himself in situations where I have to save him
You say that, but they do it with alarming frequency.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Harmless_Venom
Dont worry, you can repair him by swapping out the broken parts with adamantium

Nojokur
Nojokur

@BinaryMan
Calcium Enriched

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Burnblaze
I make a conscious effort to cut out cruft and have the sentences sound as natural as possible, but sometimes when you translate, you just go word for word and nobody picks up on how awkward it sounds (or nobody dares tell you that) and it gets through sounding weird.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Spamalot
Is this another poor man's .Hack just like Sword Art Online

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@JunkTop
Yes.

TreeEater
TreeEater

You people are forgetting this is a LN
Bottom of the barrel tier of /lit/ stuff, made for young japs.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@JunkTop
It's a rich man's D&D.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@JunkTop
yes not worth your time

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Inmate
Insecticide doesn't just hurt Entoma, it kills all her best weapons too, so she was unable to fight back and taking tons of damage too.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@TreeEater
Yes and the author is also an amateur. No one is declaring it as a work of literary wonder. It's just that the content is a lot of fun.

farquit
farquit

@RavySnake
I'd want to make a dwarven magitech.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@JunkTop
It's about a sad, sad shell of a man that goes insane after seeing the MMO he spent thousands of bucks for die and retreats into a fantasy world where he can reminisce about all the NPCs he created and adventures he had with his guildmates in the good old days.

Think about the nostalgia and sadness you feel when you realize your RO days are never coming back and multiply that by a thousand, and you have Ainz.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Fuzzy_Logic
Everyone can get better if they put enough time on it, mahouka's author used to do entire monologues on the public transport system before getting a new editor and enough sense in the head.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@likme
@Stupidasole

I bet you retards thought VC had a good localization.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Skullbone
never gave a shit about Clementine when reading the novel
now she's suddenly one of my favorite characters

It's so bizarre.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Garbage Can Lid
The boy glanced at the wailing Hilma, but did not halt his pace for even a second.
“Quickly! We’ll get in trouble if we don’t hurry up!”
Stone cold.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Fuzzy_Logic
Is it the voice?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Emberfire
I bet Solution would instantly spit cherry-boy popping Gagaran out. Bet there's a limit to how much unpurity she can stomach.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@BlogWobbles
She eats greasy Snape-esque ottermode bandit-rapists.
I'm pretty sure that Gagaran is pretty pure comparatively.

girlDog
girlDog

@VisualMaster
even in MMOs you sure as hell don't see casters pop out some text whenever they shoot arcane missiles.

Have you ever played MMOs before?

@Ignoramus
CZ is a robot, she's immune to all of Evileye's status effects, to begin with. And she always fights seriously, like Yuri-nee. Finally, she wouldn't even eat human beings in the first place so she wouldn't be in this situation, and she probably has some kind of stealth ability to hide from them anyway.

@LuckyDusty
CZ can break Evileye's shields in 3 shots when she's not even trying.

@w8t4u
Well, she did pwn the shit out of Gagaran and Tia, and they're way more competent than Climb or possibly even Brain. And with Succulent, even Climb started seeing through his tactics by himself instead of needing a magic counter to everything Suckulent did.

But yeah, she does come off as one hell of a jobber here.

@BinaryMan
Well, Shallchair is a minmaxed fighter/priestess hybrid. So, much like D&D, I think what he hates is poorly done multiclassing, like a guy with 10 mage levels and 10 fighter levels, who is worse than a guy with 20 mage or fighter levels, because at any point he is only being a level 10 fighter or mage, even though he can do both, because being effectively higher level in something is better than being able to do many things.

@AwesomeTucker
Lakyus is basically a favored soul with a magic sword, though.Charisma out the ass.

@BlogWobbles
Wouldn't she leave Gagaran for Entoma? Snacky man arms yo.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@iluvmen
dominant shota

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@girlDog
Given that time stop doesn't actually stop time and merely slow it down the flash can power past it simply via going faster.

@VisualMaster
I personally enjoy knowing that sort of thing exists even if it's once but at the same time if I actually fuck over everything hardcore it's a complete accident as i expect a DM not to leave a weakness.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@JunkTop
It's not set in a MMO for starters

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

entoma being bullied
This is not okay.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@girlDog
Have you ever played MMOs before?

Quite a few. How about you name some instead of being smug?

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Gigastrength
Ah RO, so long ago

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Techpill
Dat ass is fat son

RumChicken
RumChicken

@girlDog
Well, Shallchair is a minmaxed fighter/priestess hybrid. So, much like D&D, I think what he hates is poorly done multiclassing, like a guy with 10 mage levels and 10 fighter levels, who is worse than a guy with 20 mage or fighter levels, because at any point he is only being a level 10 fighter or mage, even though he can do both, because being effectively higher level in something is better than being able to do many things.

Except we don't know how Shalltear is specced. She could be 50 fighter 50 priestess which is no different than the example of a level 10 fighter level 10 mage.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Booteefool
Evileye would have lost 1v1 against Entoma. Gargaran and Tia providing extra pressure is what tipped things in her favor, and even then it was a slow, steady victory that they achieved basically due to having a buttload of consumables. If Entoma hadn't tried to keep Tia or Gargaran alive, then she probably would have won.

Evileye's pesticide spell is a hard counter for Entoma's summoned insects, but the raw stat difference and her other spirit magic powers would have been enough for her to win. It wouldn't be a clean or easy win, but she'd win.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Techpill
Oh lawdy...

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@BinaryMan
One round is generally 6 seconds of time in dnd.
During a round you generally get 1-2 actions (move+ attack usually. but drawing your weapon or any basic action can take up that time. some can even take up the entire round with one relevant example being summoning.) with a tiny bit of space for quickened spells/abilities. With enough base attack you can get extra attacks off. misc stuff blah blah blah.

30 seconds would be Entoma her getting attacked at least 10 times per bug.
TLDR a long time is relative during a fight where a few seconds undefended equates to getting your shit knocked in.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Firespawn
I think all of you got it wrong. Skythewood doesnt translate from japanese. Namorax (I think he is part of the translation group--- although he is just a headstrong prick) told on one forum that they are using a fan translation from japanese to chinese. So the are translating a translation (in chinesse). Obviously many things are lost.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Gigastrength
He actually went into a coma due to a glitch when the game server shut down and he was still in.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Firespawn
Have you ever considered people from other cultures might consider English as bullshit for the exact opposite reasons as you do for Japanese?

farquit
farquit

@Boy_vs_Girl
panty soaker

Methshot
Methshot

@New_Cliche
@Carnalpleasure
So, it would take kirito to beat him?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

If only Touch Me were still here.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@PurpleCharger
is this in the later volumes?

TechHater
TechHater

@SomethingNew
I swear the shaltear versus ainz was totally this.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Lord_Tryzalot
Then how does talking work? These guys fight while pronouncing spells that are as long as the nobles and royalty in the midst of battle. Sometimes several of them in a few seconds.

Like how do you 'clutch' cast "Shield of Adamantine"? That's six fucking syllables right there.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@MPmaster
Ah man, nothing will ever replaces the feeling of the first time you and a bunch of ragtag team of people you met at the mushroom rock in Payon dungeon decided to venture into lv 2 and so on and get wreck by that one ninetails in lv 3. That was one of the most fun I've ever had in an mmo. That and your first 99's after like a year of playing.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@BinaryMan
Hybrids tend to suck unless you're planning to stop before the build stops being useful. Succulent's build was probably decent or even OP at lower levels but even the NW is slightly too high for it to be anything but shit vs the "skilled" humans of the area.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@haveahappyday
You sure it wasn't just because he invested too heavily in being a maid? The man takes his job seriously.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Spamalot
Did Demiurge find that Humerus?

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Supergrass
"Talking is a free action." is an old/common joke about this very problem.
It's just like how you see all sorts of drawn out arguments in anime/tv/movies and other forms of media that couldn't possibly take place mid fight.
It's there because if noone was talking shit would get boring.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@StrangeWizard
ainz fully embraces inner lichdom
decides to legitimately become evil overlord
conquers everything
non humans rule, humans-demi humans are slaves
papa-bonez's family is happy
touch me appears
waves some paladin moralfaggotry at ainz
he turns good
how hard would you rage, Sheeky Forums?

Playboyize
Playboyize

@iluvmen
I thought you were asking if you should try to GT the chapters at first. Which would be a "no."

There's barely real spoilers between vol 6 and 7. You probably already know how this current arc will end up, and outside of a few small things, you won't learn much more new stuff that will affect your reading of volume 6.

We get anime on Tuesday, including a special with new material. There's also the audio dramas, if you get desperate for Ainz's marrow. Edge yourself until at least Thursday, and see if you can't make it another day and a half. The prologue, by the way, is probably the most spoiler-ish thing.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@whereismyname
At this point im fully expecting them to just pass around a bunch of rocks until they become ballistic weapons.

FastChef
FastChef

@kizzmybutt
I don't think Touch Me is like this. He was the guildmaster of a bunch of chuunis to begin with. Ainz wouldn't be a sadistic ruler and piss him off. His conquest improves everything, as the Lizardmen prove.

5mileys
5mileys

@kizzmybutt
Touch-me not giving Ainz a righteous beat down before destroying his empire and instead of killing Ainz imprison him, no longer friends.
Do you even Justice bro?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@5mileys
that would be better. ainz would turn full skeletor "you haven't seen the last of me mwahahahah"

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Poker_Star
Tibia spams the screen and the chat with spell text

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Supergrass
And since i forgot to mention it earlier if you absolutely need that shit done fast you can hold a readied action for say an attack about to hit you and do it immediately in response but that system is setup rather horribly.
Alternately with quickened casting you could totally get that spell up extra fast as they're not held by a turn based system anymore like dnd is.
@Snarelure
Peasant rail-canon or are you talking about Nazarick when they could just pull a Cuchulain and toss the rocks directly as ballistic weapons to kill entire armies right now.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Burnblaze
That's also a phrase that stuck out to me
I just assume that japanese is ass backwards when written compared to English so when translators translate they try to keep it as close as possible while putting in order

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Boy_vs_Girl
real Human bean
not a skeleton

every time.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@whereismyname
It's there because if noone was talking shit would get boring.

Not really, just do monologue thoughts instead of voicing them out. That works real well because as readers we understand that thinking is way faster than speaking and more importantly anyone not retarded would realize humans don't think by using words but rather the base thought process. So if there was a concept of say, how rain water forms, a human wouldn't need to think out paragraphs of explanations in his head just to think it, yet readers would understand that because we need to know what's going on inside the head of the character it gets turned into text which naturally makes it bulkier.

The Ravages of Time does this the best of all, and even then it keeps most of their thoughts rather base and instinctive, leaving enough that you have to complete the trailing thought for yourself while the characters are in the midst of combat. Speaking of that series this chapter resembles ROT's style of repetitive lines/theme through different characters while carrying the same air to them.

“Well, it’s about time to end this. Did you say your farewells?” -Entoma
“Shall we end it here?” -Evileye
“How about we end this right here.” -Demiurge

But most people wouldn't realize this was intentional.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Flameblow
you got me.

AS EXPECTED OF AINS-SAMA

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Raving_Cute
That's not you saying it though, that's no different than the words that pop up over people's heads along with damage numbers in WoW.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Illusionz
similar
Not at all.

Shalltear is a Cleric with strong melee abilities. Evileye is a magic caster.
Shalltear makes great use of her summons to continue fighting through difficult battles. Evileye has no summons, and is mostly reliant on crowd control.
Shalltear's magic has a large number of direct attacks, and self buffs. Evileye's magic has a small number of attack spells, and is more focused on debilitating the enemy for her teammates to overwhelm.

They had one spell that was vaguely the same, in that it created a projectile that was then thrown at an enemy. But they are both drawing from Yggdrasil's spell list for the most part.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@whereismyname
Sword of the Stranger and Seirei no Moribito didn't do this, and they were hailed as some of the greatest fight anime of all time.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@TechHater
Yes. Volume 8

Supergrass
Supergrass

@RumChicken
Is rebutted
shifts goalposts

The fire is there, please go die in it.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@kizzmybutt
decides to legitimately become evil overlord
non humans rule, humans-demi humans are slaves
Doesn't he have a "human farm" in the dungeon to produce skins for scrolls? He's already -500 evil.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@JunkTop
Taking well aged wine and trying to make it into grapes again.

Terrible.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Supergrass
le semantics by shifting the goalpost myself
le project goalshifting on others

Go back to reddit faggot. You clearly knew the context I'm using because that's the entire point of "talking is a free action" yet you are retarded enough to ignore that just to try to win an argument on the internet. Go back to school I know you dropped out.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Crazy_Nice
peasant railgun. Abusing passing items as a single round action to accelerate an object at stupid speeds.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Garbage Can Lid
the voice IS pretty good...

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Carnalpleasure
he was hired by lord not!royalty leader as a party leader. Climb already explained standing orders were to assist at the final location after sweeping your base. Blue rose was just closer so they got there first.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@New_Cliche
I for one would love to see immaculately described raindrops in flowery prose even if it was just once. It works in literature and drama quite well as you don't have to have the reader process it all in realtime. In RL ( or at least animated media) eventually people are going to notice something is off.
@PackManBrainlure
That's probably more due to directing actually being good than anything. With visual media you can overcome that problem via interesting visuals to convey whats going on instead of the words/text.
In something like a book on the other hand a prolonged conflict scene had better have some character interaction or absolutely amazing descriptions of the play by play.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Lord_Tryzalot
The autism is strong in this one

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Lord_Tryzalot
le
Go back to 9gag faggot.

even in MMOs you sure as hell don't see casters pop out some text
Tibia spams the screen and the chat with spell text
I-I wasn't talking about text
Sure looks like goalshifting to me.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@SniperGod
Funny thing is, it's still a pretty good translation, at least compared to some translations of other series. The original must be an interesting read.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Lord_Tryzalot
tells him to go back to reddit
le

Nojokur
Nojokur

@GoogleCat
There's no flowery prose about raindrops cause it's all about war, politics, muh greater gud, and muh irony, but Ravages of Time uses tons of ancient chink poetry and cites passages from annals of important figures all the damn time. Like during a battle instead of shouting out a tactic to their men, they would just cite a line some famous general from generations past would use and the battalion would immediately react accordingly. Granted if you don't know chink shit it completely flies over your head the first 200 chapters or so.

Actually it does have flowery prose on raindrops. If by raindrops you mean blood.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@SniperGod
Not that many, i used to translate chink to jap and 96-7% is kept intact, its mostly the jokes/memes/ that get lost in translation/replaced by west stuff.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Techpill
Elaborate
He's wrong. It's clearly someone cosplaying as Momon.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@TreeEater
Keep on using buzzwords.

@SniperGod
I like how you ignored how I pointed out the difference between semantics and context. Are you just a giant nigger who delights in nit picking? How many friends do you have? 1?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Dreamworx
No one's going to believe you because Sheeky Forums hates chinks.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Raving_Cute
Not chink, just had to learn it because i work in the oil industry

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Dreamworx
It helps that sentence structure with Japanese and Chinese is almost completely the same and they share a lot of kanji/hanzi, which are what carry the most meaning in Jap/Chinese.

However, Jap has small but significant difference which mean fluency in one is not the same as fluency in the other.

@SniperGod
For what it's worth, Sky does backcheck my stuff against the original Japanese text, and it can be pretty crazy (there's a demon in v6c11 which is called "Over Eating" and neither of us knows what's up with that.

Ultimately, my goal has always been to provide a translation that flows as well as possible without sacrificing details. Sadly, sometimes meaning and nuance really is lost in translation.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Skullbone
You're looking at a couple things here.

There's a saying in the US for writers. "Show, don't tell." Meaning that instead of saying, "this guy is super rich" say, "the man reached into his pocket, grabbed a suitably large amount of currency and tucked it under the bill as a tip. He had no idea how much he spent just then, anything under a few thousand was beneath his notice."

There's also a strong belief that the eyes are the "windows to the soul." Which is to say, that you know someone, when you look them in the eye. People believe that you can understand a lot by looking into another person's eyes. That's why liars are described as being "shifty" because they won't look you in the eye when they speak. There's some science backing this, but it has less to do with eyes, and more to do with the muscles around the eyes. People look up when they are trying to remember something, for example. So the "wells of deep memory" is basically saying, "These two people looked pretty young, but looking at their eyes, they seemed far, far older. They are people who have seen horrible stuff, and it shows, as long as you are looking at the right place." English language talks about eyes as being the truth of a person a lot. Having "dead eyes" means that you've given up on life, having "fire in your eyes" means you're enraged, etc.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@SniperGod
tfw i tried to translate inrui wa Suitai Shimashita once
never again
fuck that gramma 7 ways to fucking sunday

eGremlin
eGremlin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfgONnjd2lA

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@SniperGod
Over eating sounds like a translation of gluttony to me.
Kinda like how a few years ago sometimes people would goggle translate something into another language then back to see how hilariously bad the result is.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Ignoramus
With how bad Maruyama's english sometimes is, he might literally be doing just that.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Illusionz
It's very hard to get used to unless you're really experienced with the language, and most of the time people who use Chinese/Jap as their first language don't have English as their first language, so the result ends up just as bad because they can't reproduce it well in English.

I'm kind of lucky because English is my first language and I spent my entire childhood (until I was 16) learning advanced Chinese, but it's still tiring to translate Chinese/Jap to English in my head. Am I the only one who does this?

@Ignoramus
I would totally use Gluttony as a demon's name, but the Jap raws had Over Eating in katakana, which suggests that it was the Japanese name.

However, said demon ate souls, so it's entirely possible it might have been an aspect of Gluttony, i.e. Overeating.

DeathDog
DeathDog

has this conversation passed the point in the last anime episode? fuk forgot how to english

Booteefool
Booteefool

@DeathDog
Yes, come back in 10 years when we finally get Season 3.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Lord_Tryzalot
Post it fagget.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@eGremlin
The First Ending
So what's the second ending?

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Booteefool
theres going to be more than one season? srs?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Methnerd
pls respond

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Methnerd
lets hope so.

Inmate
Inmate

So Demiurge created the "aberion sheep" (actually humans), and "chimeras" (also humans) used as materials for potions and scrolls. He has a literal breeding pit filled with humans, orcs and various magical creatures (which works out like a fatalpulse victimgirls hentai) and the human slaves are fed the flesh of their babies as food.

How does that work? Humans are inefficient machines, eventually they'd run out of energy. Especially if they're harvested for materials too.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

It really makes me wish there was some kind of brand new MMO released recently. No guides, no tutorials, only stuff discovered through playing with trial and error. But it's too much for the casual idiots so it would never sell.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Inmate
They use magic to heal them so thats where the energy is coming from.

TechHater
TechHater

@Inmate
what is healing magic

cut off flesh from person
cook the flesh
heal the person
feed the cooked flesh

You now have infinite energy.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@PurpleCharger
Lupus a best.

If people can forgive Narberal every day, then why not Lupus for stuff they haven't even read yet?

Soft_member
Soft_member

@TechHater
people producing their own food from their bodies

It's like photosynthesis!

Evilember
Evilember

@Methnerd
Ya they already announced season five with 2-4 in the can.

farquit
farquit

@BunnyJinx
Clerics and Druids are among the most powerful D&D classes. Thanks to the wide variety of spells available to them, they can act as any of the core classes while also being great healers, which is an ability that most of the magic classes don't have. They can be more effective frontline warriors than the martial classes too, because they can use magic to enhance their physical abilities.

idontknow
idontknow

@TechHater
Casting healing magic requires energy, so there's still a cost.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Inmate
@Burnblaze
@TechHater
So when you heal someone, they go back to normal even if a part of them has been removed?

girlDog
girlDog

@TechHater
@Burnblaze
Demiurge tried this, cutting off human's limbs then casting a healing spell which caused the limb to disappear. He then cut off the limb, made the humans eat the limbs then healed them causing them to starve to death by eating. He thought it was funny so he kept doing it.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Stupidasole
read the LN

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Stupidasole
They cover this exact line of reasoning extensively in the LN, including various experiments and tests.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@girlDog
Yeah, except that last part is wrong. It was stated that if the arm or whatever was removed was altered enough it would not vanish. This applied to eaten arms and the skin scrolls. Don't make shit up.

Methnerd
Methnerd

Was there an LN illustration of Albedo's armour from when Ainz saved the village? Trying to make up a comparison between the anime/manga/LN versions, but my googlefu is failing me.

I remember there being an LN version, but that may just be a brain failure.

idontknow
idontknow

@Poker_Star
@kizzmybutt
I thought the line in Volume, 2 or 4 I think, said that casting healing magic casts it on the soul and that things that are missing stay removed from the body. I think I misread it.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@happy_sad
Undead usually have fuck huge amounts of mana. One of the selling points of the Momonga's race was that it was pretty much perfect for a spell caster class. Also, remember that zombie guy from the 6 rings or whatever? He was outed as an undead because he could spam Fireball without taking any mana recovery potions.

WebTool
WebTool

Still mad about that cliffhanger

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@idontknow
Basically, if it changes form after being removed then healing magic will grow new stuff. Like if it was chewed up and being digested.

Otherwise, if it doesn't then it will disappear and reappear on the person.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@BlogWobbles
How much of a body do you need to be able to heal someone or revive them?

Could you clone someone by splitting them in half and healing both parts separately?

Snarelure
Snarelure

@WebTool
Was Demiurge legitimately surprised when Ainz-sama showed up out of nowhere, or was he acting?

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Stupidasole
I'll spoonfeed
You have to mutate the removed pieces to a point where they aren't recognized as part of the original host.
They did this by turning them into scroll paper.
Then, they heal the host and the scroll paper remains behind.

It's like if you were healed, would every hair and skin particle suddenly disappear from the world? Probably not

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Snarelure
Monmon doesn't actually know what Demi is doing at that time. All he knows is that he's doing to side project. Needless to say they're both surprised.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Snarelure
He didn't tell Ainz that he was going to be doing his Demon King act already.
Ainz showed up and he assumed that he's testing him when in reality he just wanted to check out what was going on.
Ainz knows he was going to do the demon king act, they already mentioned that in an earlier chapter

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

I just wanna see how the youngest sister of the Pleiades maid squad looks like.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@BlogWobbles
Like a girl drawn by Rustle.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Snarelure
Surprised. He didn't expect Momon to jump in, but he recuperates pretty fast and jobs the fight for Ainz.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@WebTool
get about 1/3rd of the way down the browser page
Entoma vs Evileye is starting to heat up
settle myself in for maximum coziness and maximum hype
scroll down excitedly right as Momon intercepts Demi
end of chapter
mfw

Spamalot
Spamalot

So what does Ainz think about Evileye? Does he hate her for damaging one of his maids, or does he just think she's a weirdo he can use someday?

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Soft_member
could you imagine if there wasn't a double release last week

you'd be feeling the same thing, but with sebas instead

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Spamalot
He hates for bullying Entoma, and was on the verge of beheading her with his swords. He reminds himself that he wants information on Resurrection though (Lakyus can use Resurrection Magic).

FastChef
FastChef

@Spamalot
I think in a straight up hand to hand fight, Demi can take Ainz.

takes2long
takes2long

@DeathDog
How depressed is Entoma from getting beaten by humans?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@FastChef
Think? Ainz will get his ass whooped if he can't use magic.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@FastChef
Yeah, Demi can beat Ainz as a fighter.

As a mage, though, Ainz will stomp him flatter than Evileye's chest.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Deadlyinx
@Burnblaze

He might win if he casts Perfect Warrior, but that's cheating.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@FastChef
If he sticks to his Momon persona, he'd get stomped by Demi. Demiurge knows that, hence the jobbing.

Evilember
Evilember

@Boy_vs_Girl
True. You can't make your boss look bad.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Burnblaze
A better example would be Shalltear.

Inmate
Inmate

@Snarelure
I'm pretty sure it was both at once. Ainz's appearance was unexpected, but Demiurge has the brains to instantly formulate/reformulate a plan, so he played up his reaction as a result.

Evilember
Evilember

@AwesomeTucker
Yeah, it finally clicked for me when a friend explained it to me.

A level 1 fighter, with the right equipment and strategy, could probably solo a bear and that would be a cool story about how tough they are. A level 1 druid has less equipment options, but can start with a bear as a sidekick, buff themselves up enough to fight the bear evenly, and then turn into a bear while maintaining the buffs.

A fighter is a fighter.
A druid is a guy with a pet fighter, who can turn into a better fighter.
Everything the druid gives up, is mitigated by being able to transform into a powerful animal.

Clerics get around it by being fighter-lites by design, and then getting better magic than druids on top of it, even if they don't have free shapeshifting.

...peas are not cabbage, captcha.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@hairygrape
Yeah, last week spoiled me. I almost wish there hadn't been a double release last week.
Almost.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@TalkBomber
She's in the same boat. Better fighter, shittier mage. Being super effective against him goes a long way, though.

Inmate
Inmate

Actually, how was Momon even able to block Demiurge's attack? Did Demiurge instinctively hold back upon realizing that it was his master? I thought Ainz was only around level 40-50 when in warrior mode, so no way could he survive a hit from a lv 100.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Spazyfool
he means she has a flat chest

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Inmate
We don't know user. WE'RE NOT THAT FAR! So if you read ahead, shut it.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@New_Cliche
That's when Momon IS using Perfect Warrior. It's pretty much Tenser's Transformation from D&D - you count as a fighter of your level, but you get none of the special abilities that come with it; no special combat techniques, just a strength boost, the ability to use most weapons, and raw fighting skills of a fighter of your level.

In exchange you can't use magic, and since all your feats/special abilities are geared towards using magic, that pretty much shuts out most of your build.

@Evilember
A druid doesn't give up anything, though. An upgradable bear IS a better fighter than the fighter himself since the bear is bigger and stronger and sufficiently so that he can flat out ignore any tricks the fighter tries to pull.

And then the druid buffs the bear.

@Inmate
Well, even Gazeff could block a hit from a Dark Young, it just hurt him really badly. Ainz has undead physical resistance and Perfect Warrior going on, so he could take Demi's hit more easily. Plus, after the first blow Demi pretty much jobbed.

@Playboyize
Considering Stool's body only appeals to lolicons...

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Evilember
boss
you mean father?

5mileys
5mileys

@SniperWish
There's no way Momon is always using Perfect Warrior. For one, Ainzs' base stats are good enough for him not to need it.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Inmate
Demiurge doesn't really want to smear his idol across the floor. He nerfs himself for Momon.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@5mileys
He specifically used it before heading into the Capital.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Inmate
@SniperWish
for what its worth, does ainz still get that "immune to attacks below a certain level" when he's momon? He's technically still the same level 100 with those sorts of passives right?

Assuming that negation refers to the attack, rather than the person using the attack (given how the angel was able to hurt him despite being a pushover by ygg standards) perhaps he just took no damage from what was essentially demiurges weakest possible attack.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@5mileys
Not against Demi, though. He used PW on a whim during ch10 and stated that he would have been in trouble without it in ch11. PW makes a difference when you want to showboat (like Momon did) but against someone who has his shit together it's an inspired form of suicide.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@5mileys
Not against Demiurge, though, who was able to 1hk Gagaran. I'm pretty sure Ainz's non-perfect warrior strength is around the same level or even less than Gagaran's.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Inmate
Demiurge wasn't attacking when Momon jumped in; the loud clanging noise was just Momon jumping in.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Fuzzy_Logic
Yes, he does get his immunity. That's how he tanked Clementine's Facestab, and the subsequent spell release (he's also immune to low level magic).

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Lunatick
He's stronger than Gagaran even without perfect warrior.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@StrangeWizard
@Spazyfool

oh, well I wouldn't know that because I don't read ahead. Anyways my point remains. He doesn't always have it on as Momon.
@Lunatick
yeah Ainzs' base strength is the equivalent to level 40, so he's pretty high.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Booteefool
How do you know that?

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Lunatick
But tanking a hit should be based on his physical defense and not his strength though, right?
Ainz's phys. def. is around the upper 60s according to the chart, which isn't too shabby.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Carnalpleasure
stats and level mate

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Evilember
I could be wrong but melee or at least fighter in general does have a few advantages once they get enough feats. the problem is that for melee it's a very specialized area of expertise while everyone else can do whatever the fuck they want.
A fighter eventually for example can push out ridiculous dps combined with combat reflexes while using a bow and arrow to instantly shoot any caster dead that look at em funny or starts chanting.
The problem is that outside of that the fighter has jack shit and has to do stuff the hard way, setup a tent if they even have one, make a campfire, hunt/cook, and so on while magic users are summoning themselves a villa for the night complete with invisible butlers and an alarm system.
You take away a mage's power to deal direct damage and they have a billion other things they can do with phenomenal cosmic power. You take away a fighter's ability to fight and they're a tanky peasant.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Playboyize
Too late. I already read it. I also realised something horrible.

NOW I HAVE TO WAIT TWO MONTHS!
OH FUCK WHY DID I DO THAT?

SniperGod
SniperGod

@CouchChiller
Where are Gagaran's stats?

Supergrass
Supergrass

@RavySnake
It isn't bad by any stretch, but it shouldn't be enough for him to take on Demiurge while maintaining his disguise if he isn't taken lightly.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@SniperGod
She has to be at or above 30 though.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@MPmaster
Not even that, user. Fighters can MAYBE gain the ability to oneshot anything in a single charge if they dedicate their entire build to it. So they can't become godly archers as well as swordsmen at the same time.

Then some horrible monster grapples him and he's basically a foil-wrapped treat for it.

Meanwhile, a mage can gain the ability to oneshot anything if he spends the money to copy the spell into his spellbook. And if you try and grapple him, "oh hey, I'm immune to physical restraint/incorporeal/teleport-capable/not really there".

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Supergrass
Implying he went full strength

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@haveahappyday
So how do you know her strength is lower than Ainz's?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Playboyize
I did say specialized. I guess I didn't stress that enough.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

We need ze new bread

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@DeathDog
Not really. I know he jobs.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Need_TLC
I missed that. However, it doesn't change the fact that fighter types are fun as hell.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@GoogleCat
I've a different guy user, but all adventures at her team's level are usually around 30 right?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@viagrandad
This. I demand art of uncle Cocytus with a mini-Ainz of sorts and Demi by the side.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@GoogleCat
Because of Clementine saying that Gagaran wouldn't be able to beat her, though she'd be able to put up a decent fight. Ainz in terms of pure strength completely out-classed Clementine even if his moves were shitty enough that she didn't let him get any direct hits until the hug.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

anybody got the download link for the latest chap,for some reason I can't get into sky's blog

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@TreeEater
Yes, from the info we've gotten so far the normal Adamantite Adventurer seems to be ~ lvl 30.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@haveahappyday
Bookmark it.
https://mega.nz/#F!9gcB1JTS!WHAlQqEoYUgpdy8cdCg5qg
A random user updates it.
To who maintains it, thanks.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@lostmypassword
That is true. The problem is you can just be something else and pretend to be a fighter while usually doing the job better and being capable of something outside of the fight mechanically.

Nono. I didn't cast magic on myself to buff my str or cure everyone. I used my hotblooded aura of manliness and fighting spirit to spur you on.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@New_Cliche
Clementine could beat Gagaran just fine without necessarily being in her strength tier.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Flameblow
thanks user

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Methnerd
Death Corp of Krieg themed NPCs

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@New_Cliche
Well, baseline Ainz is strong and fast enough that Clem needed to spike her stats with martial arts and use Invulnerable Fortress (itself stated as being a rare secret which few people could master) just to get a single shot at Ainz.

Gagaran's Super Combo could only be blocked by Invulnerable Fortress outside of Entoma's shield bug + her innate strength, and Entoma's a level 51 generalist.

It stands to reason that baseline Ainz is stronger than Gagaran.

@Nude_Bikergirl
Mainly because NW humans are much more like normal humans than Nazarick NPCs, so Clementine's high speed charge can get them in a vital point and kill them instantly despite them being otherwise untouched.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Inmate
He's not in warrior mode, he's literally wearing armor he conjured with magic which you're allowed to wear anything you make.
He's still a mage

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Inmate
@TechHater
@Soft_member
@Stupidasole
@Emberfire
atrocities to no end
discuss how exactly conservation of energy is violated here
I love you guys

Inmate
Inmate

@New_Cliche
The clementine fight wasn't about straight up strength.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Flameblow
https://mega.nz/#F!9gcB1JTS!WHAlQqEoYUgpdy8cdCg5qg

To the guy who maintains it, also to Ferro, why are you using those names. For example you use Berette, when the name in japanese sounds like be-ro/lo-te??

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Deadlyinx
Also lets not forget about "Re-Lantier"... just, why?

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Sir_Gallonhead
I we're going to be horrible monsters we might as well be efficient at it.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Skullbone
English is my second language I started 3 years ago.

Then it's not really your fault. Getting the full nuance out of a language takes a long time. And people who read a lot of books are naturally going to be harsher judges of the written word than the average native speaker of the language who doesn't read for pleasure.

As an aside: reading amateur English translations of amateur Japanese light novel writing won't get you that kind of experience. Reading English newspapers won't help much either - it's aimed at a more basic level of comprehension and is oddly worded to save ink. Read a lot of books instead. They don't have to be fancy highbrow 'art' books, just the standard sci fi and fantasy books will work fine.

@Skullbone
like how Sebas could read Climb just from looking into his eyes. I can't ever do that in real life, nor do I understand how that even works in a fictional sense.
It's semi-poetic shorthand for reading facial expressions. For example, when they say a smile doesn't reach a person's eyes, that's a fancy way of saying it's a fake smile. (because the facial muscles around the eyes give it away by not forming the shapes and wrinkles of a genuine involuntary smile).

eGremlin
eGremlin

@iluvmen
Starcraft
reflexes

fucking lol

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