Does Sheeky Forums like Sailor Moon?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Does Sheeky Forums like Sailor Moon?

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DeathDog
DeathDog

@Crazy_Nice
Best mahou shoujo hands down.

Nojokur
Nojokur

I'm watching it right now; I just finished episode 24. It was nice to see some actual character development.

The show is a lot of fun so far.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Crazy_Nice

I can't speak for Sheeky Forums but i love it.

and i was one of those folks who thought this shit was girly and gay and shit.

thankfully I've been enlightened.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Crazy_Nice
Sure, I like the Sailor Moon.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Crazy_Nice
Watching Sailor Moon S right now.
It's really great.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Nojokur
@Supergrass

I'm pretty new to anime, so I'm starting with what I know, I watch a few episodes everyday and I'm genuinely enjoying it. But I really wish the plot were more focused, 13 episodes in and we don't really know anything about the world or characters beyond there's a princess out there, and energy is really important to those monsters..

Booteefool
Booteefool

I like it. There's a lot of filler, but some of those eps are actually good stand alones.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Why is Usagi so fat?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

What the fuck is up with the BD raws?
Why this?
So disappointed.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Sharpcharm
She tried going to the gym once, then monsters happened.

Emberburn
Emberburn

Friendly reminder that Ami is the best Moon

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Emberburn
damn right she is.

Nojokur
Nojokur

Only the anal ones.

5mileys
5mileys

I think I got to episode 40-something before dropping it. Like, the first arc ended on such a good note and then Mercury's all fuckin' like "THOSE BABIES IN DANGER GAVE ME MY DEUS-EX MACHINA POWER" when the ep was clearly about Usagi and Mamarou.

I can't do it, Sheeky Forums. There's not enough of best girl to keep me going

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@5mileys
not watching until at least the end of S

takes2long
takes2long

@Poker_Star
The story is shit though. I only just barely got out of the first episodes with Usagi. It's got great characters and charming animation but I can't find a reason to keep pushing myself other than that. 150+ episodes is a big commitment.

eGremlin
eGremlin

why is sailor venus best girl?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@eGremlin
Because she's outgoing and friendly, and relationship-wise is the most mature of the girls. Also, bad jokes.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@takes2long
You're shit.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@viagrandad
So is you're waifu.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Crazy_Nice
In a way, I liked it a lot more when I was younger, and had the time to watch long arc-based animes.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@eGremlin
Because she is love.
And basically being Usagi if she wasn't a fuckup.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@takes2long
Try Sword Art Online, it's elric.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Firespawn
Sword Art has a shit story AND unlikeable characters. At least Sailor Moon has an entertaining and well-developed cast.

Snarelure
Snarelure

Cheap Madoka clone

askme
askme

Donno about Sheeky Forums, but I like it so you know it's sweet.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@askme
Mice are nice.

Techpill
Techpill

@Need_TLC
But she dated two guys at the same time

Not that it matters anyways.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Crazy_Nice
Are you the same guy from yesterday who asked "Has anyone here read Ranma 1/2? It's about this guy who turns into a girl when he's splash with cold water and turns into a guy when splash with hot water"?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@JunkTop
Story related stuff always happens in the last 7ish episodes of the season.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Sailor Stars > SuperS > Season one > S > R > shit > Crystal

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Emberfire
@Emberburn

I looooooooooove her bubble spray attack. It's the complete opposite of what happens in yugioh when the bad guys bring people to the shadow realm. Ami brings them to the soapy bubble realm, and one they're in, they're fucked. I LOVE IT.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Crazy_Nice

I used to watch the dub when it first aired in the 90s.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@5mileys
Oh yeah, except for the episode before that when Venus went super saiyan, none of that string of episodes where each scout unlocks a new attack really works all that well...

The Makaiju arc is awesome though. I can't imagine dropping Sailor Moon there.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Gigastrength

none of that string of episodes where each scout unlocks a new attack really works all that well...

Rei's school festival episode was fantastic, what are you talking about?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Usagi is voiced by Lisa Simpson in the spanish dub

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@takes2long
The story is shit though. I only just barely got out of the first episodes with Usagi. It's got great characters and charming animation but I can't find a reason to keep pushing myself other than that.

Hit the nail on the head. Sailor Moon is only really worth continuing if you enjoy the characters.

The plot does show some nice signs but it keeps slinking back to the monster-of-the-week formulae no matter what, which is really what makes it so bad to watch. They'll find someway to shoehorn it in, even though some episodes would just be better off not including it.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@JunkTop
I hope you're watching either the sub or the Viz Media dub. Save the DiC dub for those inevitable moments when you just have to know how they handled something.

Anyway, I'll say that the first season and especially the first stretch of episodes are really weak compared to the rest of what I've seen. The bad guys are even more boring than usual, and Usagi is all by herself so it's not as fun.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@PurpleCharger
I guess I thought it was lame how she got her new power because she was just really mad about someone ruining the papers she worked so hard to write her song on.

It just seemed to be a couple steps down the ladder compared to how Venus got hers. Maybe my expectations were too high because of that.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@eGremlin
I DON'T KNOW.

StonedTime
StonedTime

Venus a slut. A SLUT!

Jupiter 4 life!

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@takes2long
The first 50 episodes was the commitment period for me. The second season started off A LOT better than the first season.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@SomethingNew
It was so uncalled for that they all died at the end. If I was story editing that show, I wouldn't have allowed it.

TechHater
TechHater

omg

Illusionz
Illusionz

How is the new Viz dub?

pls no bully I'm just curious because the dub cast looks pretty solid

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Illusionz

It's good for a dub.

JunkTop
JunkTop

AI TO SEIGI NO

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Crazy_Nice
Sailor Moon gave me my first boner. I'm pretty sure the blonde one was my first crush. Which planet is she?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@JunkTop
SAILOR FUKU BISHOUJO SENSHI

eGremlin
eGremlin

Poor man's Cutey Honey tbh smh fam

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@CouchChiller
SAILOR QUADS

Nojokur
Nojokur

I think Cutie Honey Flash may have originally been intended to be a Sailor V anime.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cutie_Honey_Flash
In its native Japan, the series assumed the timeslot of Sailor Stars,[2] the final story arc of the long-running Sailor Moon anime. Employing many of the same animation staff of Sailor Stars, including animation director Miho Shimagasa,[2] Flash features very similar character designs and fits the more traditional mold of magical girl series, aimed at the Sailor Moon demographic.
I would have loved a Sailor V anime with 39 episodes made by the people who made Stars.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@eGremlin
Except Cutie Honey was kinda shit. Re: was alright though.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@PurpleCharger
TSUKI NI KAWATTE

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@eGremlin
I seriously doubt Takeuchi even knew who was Cutie Honey.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Nojokur
I read that the nips were very angry with Flash because it was perceived as a desperate attemp to replicate Sailor Moon's success. I don't know about the little girls but Flash always looked very cheap, even under the 90s standards

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Nojokur
I doubt it. Stars got horrible ratings and people tend to forget Iku-chan didn't leave alone. Stars was made by the team B while Flash was made by the team C. Also, Toei was scared of losing audience even before Stars so it was safer to make Sailor Moon with a diferent name and that was Toei has been doing since the mids 90s until now. Precure is Sailor Moon's poor man after all

massdebater
massdebater

@JunkTop
I'm watching the ADV sub.
@w8t4u
That wasn't me.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

BEST GIRL

massdebater
massdebater

@Boy_vs_Girl
:/

Best girl just got dropped.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@eGremlin
Get that Crystal trash out of here.

takes2long
takes2long

@kizzmybutt
That was a very sweet moment. Seriously, S was probably the best season. It had the perfect blend of comedy, slice-of-life antics, drama, and even some dark moments.

I finished the 90's anime last year and it floors me how well it holds up. The OST and BGM alone outclasses Crystal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoWuULQ0rhc

I'm a straight dude, but I'm in awe of how romantic and sweet this ending theme is.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Gigastrength
super saiyan
scout

Get the fuck out of this thread, Toonami babby.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Poker_Star
If it weren't for Toonami most people here wouldn't be into anime.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Nojokur
And Sheeky Forums would be a much better place.
Now get out toonami fucking babby.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Nojokur
Wouldn't that be nice?

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Poker_Star
What, do you need to say senshi? Newsflash, you're not Japanese.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@PackManBrainlure
@eGremlin
Ironically, Usagi reminds me more to Kekko Kamen, despite Takeuchi would be terrified of the premise and no fucking way would read even a chapter

5mileys
5mileys

:3

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Ami is a good girl.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

S >> Stars = First Season >> R >>> SuperS

You know it to be true.

JunkTop
JunkTop

What makes the first season better than the second?

idontknow
idontknow

@JunkTop

An actual plot, with direction and sense?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Emberburn
Because "guardian" is the new official translation. See: Crystal, the new Viz sub and dub of the 90s anime, and the manga rerelease.

Saying "scout" makes you look like you've only seen the 4Kids-tier 90s anime dub, since that's literally the only version it's ever used in. Consider it was only used because "soldier", the more accurate translation of "senshi", was considered too violent and scary for you as a kid.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Best girls

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Fried_Sushi

They're Sailor Soldiers, and always have been. Toei's "official" bullshit can go to hell along with Crystal.

On that note, posting best soldiers.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@New_Cliche
"Raye"
left to right

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Sharpcharm
"Soldier" is acceptable, too.

"Scout" is toxic language, though. When I hear that, my mind classifies the person as a casual or dub pleb, and I stop talking to them. I really can't standing hearing it or reading it.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

exclusive sneak peek - sailor Vs pantsu

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Crazy_Nice
Not really.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@StrangeWizard
Scout was what it was for a lot of people growing up.
You can knock the original dubs all you want, but that stuff gets ingrained into you.

askme
askme

raise your hand if you like it only because you liked it as a kid

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@AwesomeTucker
It was the first version I saw, too.
It doesn't mean I have to stay loyal to it and not acknowledge the absurd amount editing and dumbing down.
Saying "soldier" instead of "scout" isn't hard. I only say "scout" IF I'm actually referring to the old TV dub, as should you.

If someone said they grew up with the 4Kids One Piece dub and they called "Zoro" "Zolo" would you fault them?

TechHater
TechHater

@askme
I liked it as a kid, but I liked it more as a 24 year old chasing nostalgia

Lunatick
Lunatick

@StrangeWizard
"Scout" is the canonical term for 90's dubs so like it or not, it's the one that'll be used by a lot of people. Back then, using the term Sailor Soldiers was a warning sign for fakers pretending to have actually read the manga so they could justify their bullshit theories.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@askme

I liked it both as a kid and 15 years later when I finally finished watching it.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@askme
I enjoy Sailor Moon, Digimon and Cardcaptor Sakura more now than I did as a kid
Same can't be said for Pokemon, Beyblades and DBZ though

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Fuzzy_Logic
I wonder if Medabots holds up

DeathDog
DeathDog

@w8t4u
Yeah I think I need to rewatch Medabots and Zoids and see how they hold up

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Fuzzy_Logic
want some nostalgia?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w393GxgzvT0

5mileys
5mileys

@w8t4u
Medabots is actually pretty great. There are no subs though, so you'll have to stick with the dub if you want to watch it. Luckily, the dub is decent.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Lunatick
Really? Well, where I'm from back then, "scout" was a sign that you were either:
1) dumb
or
2) only saw the dub
The same remains true today, and there's even less excuse for it now.

If you consider yourself a fan and not just some tumblrina latching back onto a popular trend, you've had more than enough time to go out there and watch material besides the 90s edited version. It's so easy to find now that I'll even question how you can consider yourself a fan if you say you've not seen anything else.

Believe it or not, in the 90s, some of us watched fansubs, and we weren't basing things off of "pretending to read the manga". In the early 2000s, official subs were available, but no one cared because Sailor Moon wasn't "cool" anymore.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Pfft, who would want to be a fan of this show if you're all so autistic anyway?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@StrangeWizard
Autism

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@AwesomeTucker
generic "lol autism" insult
GTFO, dub pleb.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Garbage Can Lid
I really liked S too. The introduction of Neptune and Uranus as well as Saturn being possessed by Mistress 9 made this a great arc.

Plus I'd argue the best comedic moments were from this arc. Like when the girls were hiding from Rei in that cafe or Minako wanting to be pure so that a daimon could steal her heart crystal.

The Dark Kingdom's early episodes really surprised me how vicious those youma were. Some of them were horror-level. If you notice after Dark Kingdom, you don't see that sort of nightmare-fuel in the Monsters-of-the-Week. To be frank, I like the backstory of the Moon Kingdom, but I never liked this arc as much as the others.

R was genuinely all good. I liked the Makaiju arc as well as the Black Moon arc. In fact, I'd say this is where the 90's anime really hit its stride because it was starting to perfect the formula established in Dark Kingdom by balancing comedy and drama.

My gripe with Stars is that the early episodes were just a rehash of Nehelania again and the actual storyline was very short compared to the other seasons.

I know SuperS gets a lot of flak, but it's not all that bad if you consider what else was running at that time.

JunkTop
JunkTop

I watched it as a kid along with Cardcaptors before DBZ came on. I find it pretty nostalgic.
Probably also the reason why I like Precure these days.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@idontknow
Sailor Moon R had a plot. I don't know what the heck you mean by direction or sense. You probably just didn't like Chibi Usa.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@eGremlin
My gripe with Stars was that the art was so bleh. SuperS had really nice art despite its flaws, and then Stars took a dive and looked awful.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@StrangeWizard
To be fair, Dark Kingdom was all about awakening the reincarnations of Princess Serenity and the Senshi in the modern day to battle Beryl. So there was already an overarching storyline to the MOTW formula.

Because of R splitting between 2 disjointed storylines, I can understand why people don't like this season as much as Dark Kingdom. I personally didn't mind Makaiju because seeing the girls regain their memories and getting back to being senshi was worth sitting through. I especially liked the episode that revealed Makoto's past with her sempai or that really cute episode with Minako and those schoolkids.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Emberfire
Yeah, I loathed how the character designs and even transformation sequences looked in Stars.

I think the best animation and BGM themes for the Senshi were from S. The artwork was so crisp, the sound effects for each Senshi's henshin were distinct and pleasant to hear, and it highlighted how the girls were getting older.

SuperS wasn't too shabby and I really don't get why it get so much hate.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

I watched it all in 2002 but don't intend to ever rewatch it because I don't have time.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Firespawn
People hate SuperS because it's about ChibiUsa, and they get this idea that it's all light and cute. They seem to forget that the plot involves ChibiUsa's romance with a guy who initially appears to her as a horse.

It came after S, too, and S was pretty dark and, in a lot of people's opinions, "epic".

Supergrass
Supergrass

@LuckyDusty
DOHSHEA
/wsg/thread/738403#p739517

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@GoogleCat
So it suffers the ZZ effect? Right after a dark season, if the next installment is too "light-hearted", it's automatically shit?

To be fair, SuperS was emulating its contemporaries at the time. This was when Nurse Angel Ririka SOS was airing as well as Akazukin Chacha. SuperS was actually the most tragic I'd argue because Nehalania wasn't pure evil like Beryl, Wiseman, or Mistress 9 was. She was a very flawed individual whose obsession with her youth and beauty caused her to spiral down.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@askme
I'm currently watching Sailor Moon as an adult male for the first time and I'm loving it.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Spazyfool
Because of R splitting between 2 disjointed storylines, I can understand why people don't like this season as much as Dark Kingdom.

That doesn't make R any better or worse than the first season. I really hope that's not it.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@TalkBomber
I think it is. Because back in the 2000's I remember discussing Sailor Moon with other fans. The consensus was that having Ail and Ann show up and then all of a sudden, Chibi-Usa and Black Moon appearing was rushed. At least, there was a gap of 2 months after Beryl's defeat and the beginning of R.

People didn't like Chibi-Usa or that ham-fisted drama about Mamoru breaking up with Usagi either from what I recall.

R had one of my favorite episodes where the Senshi don't fight a bad guy and just relax on an island. Too bad it got cut. It was a really fun beach episode. It reminded me a lot of that other beach episode from Dark Kingdom (which was also cut from US syndication) where Usagi, Ami, and Rei went to this resort staffed by people looking like Universal Monsters.

You know what bugged the most post-Dark Kingdom? Usagi didn't utilize her items like Disguise Pen (that shit was broken as fuck) or her Tiara that much.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@TalkBomber
It was annoying with the other senshi too.
Once one of them upgraded their attack, its all they used.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@VisualMaster
Hey nigga, I thought you got banned.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@King_Martha
Yep. In the final battle in S, I was surprised how Ami used Shabon Spray again while Rei used Fire Soul.

Why didn't they combine their attacks together? Like Venus Crescent Beam enveloped with the Love Me Chain? That shit would be a double-envelopment.

Or why not have the Senshi chain their attacks together? I remember in Dark Kingdom when Usagi's Tiara would be combined with Shabon Spray or with Fire Soul.

Imagine Supreme Thunder with Shine Aqua Illusion? That would be even more conductive against an enemy.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Supergrass
Watching it week to week must have been brutal though.
You could go for almost a year without seeing your favourite girls original attack, or a full transformation sequence.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Boy_vs_Girl
I wonder how many kids in Japan actually sat through all 200 episodes of Sailor Moon from beginning to end in its original airtime?

Because that's 4 years and unless those kids were dedicated fans, usually they lose interest and move onto other things.

likme
likme

@TalkBomber
The consensus was that having Ail and Ann show up and then all of a sudden, Chibi-Usa and Black Moon appearing was rushed.
That's a senseless criticism to me. Oh well.

I can see people being unhappy with Chibi Usa. She was thrust into the spotlight when everybody probably just wanted to enjoy the characters they already loved, and she was sort of mean and uncooperative, and it was weird when she turned into Black Lady. That's defensible.

Same with the Mamoru stuff. It could be a little high on the melodrama scale, but I dunno if I would remove it because it served a pretty good purpose by the end of the season.

But yes, it was sad that she never used her tiara in R.

TechHater
TechHater

@likme
Remember that episode in Dark Kingdom where the senshi were at a lake and there was this haunted spirit? The fans I conversed with said that Maikaiju was basically an episode like that stretched out as a mini-arc. Ail and Ann were these one-shot opponents that just showed up, the senshi fought, and then as soon as the dust cleared, the main story arc of R picked up immediately.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

I thought Doom Tree was cute, Black Moon still has 30ish episodes to itself anyway.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@BlogWobbles
Doom Tree basically felt like the Sailor Moon movies as a mini-series.

girlDog
girlDog

@TechHater
Did they want 10 episodes of filler between the two arcs or something? Sounds like something they should just let go.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@girlDog
If memory serves me they did just want some filler so that the manga had enough content for R

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@BlogWobbles
Doom Tree was my favorite arc in the first two seasons because the bad guys were BY FAR the most enjoyable. They were on a journey to revive their tree of life so they could live happily ever after, and along the way they would discover the power of love.

What a great backbone for a Sailor Moon story! It beats the pants off of weirdos wanting to rule the universe.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@girlDog
@viagrandad
Wasnt Doomtree an anme only thing?
I thought the first season was such a success they had the manga author write more stuff for them to adapt, and the Doomtree was Toei giving her time to write Black Moon?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@LuckyDusty
Yes it was.

I don't know who actually wrote the Doom Tree stuff, but I was thrilled to see it because it told me that at least the studio knew what they had to do differently in the second season to make Sailor Moon great, which was most importantly to have a bad guy who wasn't boring like Queen Beryl.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@5mileys
Usagi really needed to let her hair down more often.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Fried_Sushi
Not to mention "Guardian" fits better because of their mystical origins.

Soldier sounds too military. Like SM is some all-girl AU of Changeman or something.

Techpill
Techpill

@Snarelure
That's Mina dude

takes2long
takes2long

@Evil_kitten
And "scouts" makes them like those girls who go door-to-door selling cookies.

"Guardian" is where it's at.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@takes2long
And "scouts" makes them like those girls who go door-to-door selling cookies.

That's perfect.

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