Which one should I watch first FMA or FMA brotherhood?
Which one should I watch first FMA or FMA brotherhood?
Whichever one you want.
Neither, don't waste your time watching that dogshit
The general concensus is that 2003 version is better at the start because brotherhood rushes and you should switch at some point. If you can't be bothered, just watch brotherhood.
The fuck? Even with brotherhood in the title, is less about the brothers, and more about the chinks.
If you like Al and Edward, watch 03, if you just want to see side characters hugging all the screen time and a disney happy ending, watch Brotherhood.
shitty shonen for kids, with QUALITY on every step
FMA 2003 has the better first 20 or so episodes but goes full retard after that.
Brotherhood rushes the beginning of the story a bit, but stays more consistent after that and follows the manga until the end.
inb4 contrarians who deny Brotherhood's superiority
watch 2003 version
wait a few weeks
It´s literally the best shounen out there.
Brotherhood only feels rushed because 2003 is riddled with shitty fucking filler padding it out at the start. I cannot take someone's opinion seriously if they think it was even remotely acceptable, letalone good.
mfw 2003 ending and movie
Nice elaboration faggot
03 is a masterpiece with the movie. Brotherhood is a trainwreck and trivializes a lot of the better characters.
FMA had the better ending.
Brotherhood was so fucking cliche
Definitely Brotherhood. It flows a lot better then the 2003 series and stays true to the original source material.
Ignore the edgy 2003 faggots. They only like the first series because of nostalgia and for doing "two" significant deaths better then in Brotherhood, even though their deaths weren't entirely true to the source material to begin with.
Brotherhood will feel more complete then the 2003 series, which will just leave you left hanging and pissed off.
Well, I think you certainly should watch the original series up to the point where storylines diverge, as Brotherhood skims over important characterization and buildup (probably assuming people have already seen/read it).
Beyond that, I don't really know. I think the ending for the 2003 series is "meh", but on the other hand, Brotherhood ending is shonen power level bullshit, not to an insulting degree I think, but distasteful regardless. Before the ending they're both fine, though.
Since I think you definitely should watch the beginning of 2003 series first, it's probably most convenient to finish it.
preferring brotherhood over 2003
Thank you very much user
neo Sheeky Forums preferring shitty '03 over beautiful Brotherhood
What the fuck
I personally merely watched Brotherhood and I enjoyed it. Kinda regret the fact that I have never even considered giving 2003 FMA a chance.
Should I perhaps consider watching it now?
Is it honestly worth it?
03 was better.
If you go in with a bunch of preconceptions about how FMA should play out you will be disappointed. In a lot of ways, it interprets the themes in a way completely opposite to Brotherhood. I imagine Arakawa would get in a fistfight with whoever directed 03 because 03 has a much darker outlook.
Read the manga instead.
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One reason to avoid the 2003 show:
03 is good but has a far more serious tone, and a lot less shounen. The homunculus are also a lot better characterised and have better backstories, and better/different characteristic of certain characters. However it has its cons, like hoennhiem barely making an appearance and the very wtf ending. Also the entire ling arc and characters are omitted, but where that's a pro or con depends on whether you liked it or hated it.
God that character was pure cancer.
FMA:B : amazing storyline, well-written, exciting
FMA 03 : filler
You may choose.
The FMA movie was alright, not necessarily good.
FMA 03 show itself was 4-5/10 to me.
Both for the best experience.
Episodes 1-15 of FMA 2003.
Episodes 6 - 64 of FMA Brotherhood.
But what if I've already seen FMA:B, should I still consider giving FMA 03 a chance?
This! Seriously, FMA 03 literally missed to include Hohenheim properly. Mere shit.
That depends on how much you liked FMA:B/the manga. If you liked it a lot you probably won't enjoy how 03 goes out of its way to insult the themes and values presented in Brotherhood. It basically implies they're childish and unrealistic.
That being said, I still enjoyed both. Even if the ending was retarded on 2003 version, I enjoyed it.
Sure. I think most people agree it's at its best in the beginning before the story starts going off rails (at least compared to manga, I suppose it's possible for someone to prefer the new direction), so if you don't feel like watching it at some point, you can drop it without having to worry you missed too much.
Manga's Hohenheim is dull. I preferred 03's Hohenheim who was actually a terrible person and an absolute hypocrite. He only stopped playing along with Dante because it seemed nonviable, not because he found her actions unethical. Its so much more interesting than the manga's tragic backstory which tries to explain away his mistake.
Yes, especially the first 15 episodes. After that, you can watch the rest if you want a different story with the FMA characters.
Neither, read the manga instead.
Talking about characterizations. What about Roy? As someone who actually did like his plotting and political idealism (somehow reminded me of House of Cards).
the thing about the second show is that it seems to rely on you to have actually seen the first one, so it rushes some good stories just to get to the 'new stuff'.
I rewatch brotherhood with one of these playlists, but theyre both good.
theres something called FMA United someone made but I was never able to find a download of it, heres the text file from the torrent http://pastebin.com/HJ7eenVA
Talkling about politics. Does FMA: 03 emphasize on fighting or rather on dwelling upon the human mind? I watched Brotherhood and like the way they restrained the fighting.
I watched Brotherhood and like the way they restrained the fighting.
What? Brotherhood was nothing but a huge battle for the last 15% of the manga. 03 has no final battle. Its almost all resolved through dialogue and people die because they've been murdered or fucked up. I can only think of a few major fights (Sloth, Greed, Bradley) and those last 3-8 minutes or so.
reason to watch Brotherhood:
Brotherhood was definitely more actiony than FMA03, but that shouldn't deter anyone looking for good quality action in FMA03.
FMA:B has better soundtracks.
different user, it's more to do with the fact that he really only appears at the very end and has very little characterization that bugs me.
talks with edward and alphonse
shows up again
Damn you, now Rewrite's stuck in my head.
ITS GERMANY NOW. LOOK DRAGONS AND NAZIS
If I remember correctly, 03 focuses on him mostly in regards to the Ishbal conflict. Hes important but nothing too major happens to him except the fight he has at the very end. There are some key aspects added to his backstory and Hawkeye's whole "muh tattoo" stuff is removed. Also he doesn't kill Lust early on because Lust is a pretty central character for almost all of 03.
FMA is good up till episode 25.
FMA:B gets good at episode 14.
2003 has the better early episodes because Brotherhood assumes you have read the manga or seen 2003 by that point.
I'd say watch both of them because they are both good.
If you dont want to watch both of them then watch 2003 up to episode 19 and then swap to brotherhood and start it at episode 8.
The early 2003 episodes are superb at introducing the characters, even if there are some filler episodes they are still pretty good and are interesting because they are still giving you an idea of how alchemy works and how its used/misused in the world.
03 had the better homunculus in terms of characterization, I also didn't mind the ending
I for one liked where they were going with the story, it blended pretty well together with the original storyline except the last 4-5 Episodes that really weren't necessary.
No, the story is absolute shit and they pull things out of nowhere. The ending is stupid as fuck and the movie was even more stupid.
How can you take it seriously when your main character dies and fucking goes to real life GERMANY to be a rocket scientist. Then have fucking Nazi's try to make magic to take over the shows canonical world. Its dumb as shit and ed and al end up living in Germany abandoning EVERYONE THEY HAVE EVER KNOWN FROM AMESTRIS. Ed is a whiny fuckboi and Al is lame as shit.
The 2003 TV series doesn't try hard enough, they reuse characters that shouldn't be relevant after their 15 seconds of fame and the characters that they do create that weren't in the manga are lame as shit. 2003 Wrath is a whiny bitch just like Ed in that series.
Wait what opening was this again?
Fuck off Reddit.
2003 and then Brotherhood.
It's how a smart person does it.
Yeah, i prefer to pretend that the movie didn't exist... it was kinda... eh.
The parts in the other world were good, but i wish there was more development of human alphonse, plus the bad guy was like, really shit... ultra forgettable. Nazi alphonse cojuld have also been a lot better characterized too, same with wrath, he mostly seems to be there just for cameo purposes.
Nazi germany plot: Good
FMA universe plot: Eh...
Sloth: Mum > Stronk
Lust: Imouto > Burn Victim
Greed: loldead > China#1
Gluttony: Gluttony = Gluttony
Envy: Onii-san < Fetus
Eyes < Why inject a humunculus into a human again?
Abortion < Salem
I thought the ending to 03 was stupid, but then the last chapter of the manga was published and I couldn't believe it was actually worse.
Ah from the first FMA reason i dont remember it.
I dunno, this is going to leave way to many plotholes and dropped storylines and confusion for a first time watcher. If you've seen both of them you can pull out the differences but not the first round for one of them.
This is the best way to watch without adding to many things, the left has like 1 off sentence that may be confusing. The right I'd only recommend if you really want to extend the series with all the good stuff from 03.
I meant the whole mechanic of having the homunculus be failed human transmutations and their desire to become humans instead of them being parts of Father
implying that the characters in the manga/2009 anime weren't also forgettable
The hommunculi lost all of their backstory and personality making them completely forgettable and reducing them to MOTW enemies
The characters from xing were completely forgettable and had little to no bearing on the plot, the entire series could have happened without them and
Scar's character development and backstory went to complete shit as well as his redemption arc
implying that FMA:B didn't have it's own annoying shitstain character
Most people like Salem, and considering he is most directly comparable to Wrath its hard not to. I prefer 03 but Salem was way better than a lot of the other Manga homunculi. In fact, he was probably my 2nd favorite from the manga behind Envy.
FMA 03> SoL moe show> FMA:B> garbage> FMA manga
So, just out of curiosity,what sets FMA apart from other typical shounen?
Is it just the fact that it doesn't go on ad infinitum and has actual pacing or is there something more to it?
I remember enjoying FMA but it's been so long since I've watched it that I can't actually remember much of it, but it's considered a classic even here, where a lot of shounen is frowned upon as casual garbage..
Nostalgia, pacing, and an ending. Its not that much better than other shounen. Gash Bell is better than Brotherhood honestly.
I would say girldog shit. Get it?
Salem was more than alright in comparison with Wrath from FMA 03, seriously.
they changed the name to avoid balls puns
visual style is believable and aestheticall pleasing
no bullshit about powerlevels, everyone has weaknesses and strengths and battles revolve around these
main themes such as genocide, acceptance of the death of family member, the meaning of power, etc are central to the story and not just filler for the background
overarching plot with an actual ending
FMA is shonen done right.
What soundtrack do you prefer? I think Brotherhood has better music overall, but nothing beats Bratja
2003 hands down.
How would you say it compares to other exceptional shounen?
The best example of such a series that I can come up with off the top of my head would be something like Eureka Seven.
This is actually starting to fascinate me.
03 version is shit and everybody here who says it's better should die of the AIDS they are already infected with.
The manga is still better than both, tbh
why do people like 2003 again?
Cause they hate happy endings
Also shit taste in general and nostalgia
Butt would you?
Because the tone's actually consistent. Also, none of that "All I ever really wanted was...FRIENDSHIP!" bullshit.
I need "muh tragedy"
Fuck off and watch Tokyo Ghoul
I thought he was dissappointing, he got built up as a major villain but he didn't last very long.
still dont know whether boy or girl
all this counterbalancing advice
fuck it, I'm not OP but I think I'll watch FMA firs tthen FMA brotherhood. I don't like watching things unfinished eitherway.
That's probably the beast thing to do, you only have to watch the stuff you've already seen for the first 6 episodes of brotherhood and even then it's different enough to be interesting and keep you entertained until you get to the different stuff.
Yeah OP here probably I will also do like this since the opinions seem 50% 50%
This kills the manga. But yeah, just watch them in the order they aired, that's how most did it.
Neither. You should read the manga, and that's that.
I actually watched Brotherhood.
Recently saw this thread and decided to watch the first two episodes of FMA 03 on netflix, I cannot really explain why but I couldn't see what people like about it so far. Is this normal? I guess it is, considering that I am rather accustomed with Brotherhood as humorous and emotional anime.
FMA ending was awful, Brotherhood has the cliche happy ending but at least you are happy for them.
Elric Brothers basically lose everything in FMA.
And what disturbs me most is that eyepatch of Roy, I do not want to be "spoiler"ed but seriously why would they change his outer appearance to the negative?
Really? Getting stuck in an alternate reality nazi land right before WWII is a better ending?
I assume better in terms of plot line and creativity, not necessarily more positive.
this! Just what the fuck? Having your beloved protagonists turn into nazis is such a great ending....
Brotherhood biggest fault is that it isn´t about the strong bond between brothers. Is instead tries to be about so many fucking things, and do none of them right.
The first FMA had two focus, brotherhood and the equivalent exchange, and did them excellent.
FMA 03 > shit > FMA:B
Nazis, attacking Amestris
a dragon kills Hohenheim
they get stuck in Germany
no more Ametris just pre-WWII Germany
looking for Uranium
basically become Nazis or help contribute
no Ed and Winry
I dunno man. I thought the plot sucked and the whole idea was stupid.
FMA is better
watching morbid animes
FMA: B childish
80% of all FMA fanboys/girls
Exactly, especially the fact that Winry and Ed couldn't even establish a romantic relationship? That's just shit.
Episode 2 of FMA: B dwelled more properly on the whole background story of the two Elric brother than 10 Episodes of FMA.
Honestly I was so hurt by that ending I had to marathon the first 10 episodes of Brotherhood to get over it.
Brotherhood doesnt exist in my mind. Neither does the manga.
Plus, Ed's soliloquy in the train. Besides, I liked the way the two Brother's dedicate their remaining life time to expand their horizon concerning cultural and scientifical believes.
(*Those pictures were just great...)
I think all in all, we can certainly state that FMA did well, but eventually missed the opportunity to act as an proper adaption of the manga. Yet, I believe, it created a whole new story featuring the Elrics, which might either be enjoyed or not.
I still insist that people finally got the admit that FMA: B did way better.
First watch 2003 FMA, because it's depressing and beautiful.
Then watch Brotherhood because it's more comedic and happy. And accurate to the manga.
2003 FMA (and the movie) can be thoughw of as an alternate universe. (it's also really good.)
Alphonse. oh pardon, Alfons as nazi? Just why man, why.
The probably biggest mistake of FMA were Dante and Wrath. Whereas, Lust is way better characterised than in FMA:B.
FMA 03 did something FMA:B never did. It cemented a emotional journey and end. Brotherhood/manga were all over the place, trying to do so many things in such a short span of time, that nothing really stuck. I cant remember the Chinese peoples name, I cant remember Armstrongs sisters name or what her role were. I cant say I was all that invested since no ones life was actually in peril if you were on the brothers side.
I insist that Brotherhood/manga is a bland mess compared FMA 03 anime.
would obliterate with the cosmic power of my dick
FMA misses great soundtracks such as "Resembool Lulaby" "Trisha's Lullaby", "Lapis philosophorum" or mere simply sounds as "Lurking" etc.
I hated Brotherhood. Will I enjoy the first anime?
This pic is turning me on
Probably, you might consider them as opposites.
But why did you hate Brotherhood at all?
The original was much darker, if you prefer Naruto watch Brotherhood.
comparing Naruto to Brotherhood
I do not like the drawing style of FMA 2003.
Holy shit I pray you don't listen to traditionalfags suggesting the original version.
Please just watch Brotherhood and be done with it. It is better in every regard.
I just finished FMA03
WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT
They're not drastically different experiences. Not sure why people like to pretend they are.
If you hated the better version then you'll hate the shittier version.
Nostalgia. Most of Sheeky Forums watched FMA on Adult Swim years ago as a babbys first.
Act 1 - Felt like it went by in a flash.
Act 2 - Too many new characters and no breather.
Act 3 - The last boss felt like some DBZ shit and everyone that is not a bad guy won and received their price.
So is FMA 03 the opposite, or you just exaggerating?
'03 for characterization, Brotherhood for plot.
Too dumb to be bait, too dumb to be true honest opinion. What is this?
But I don't think Alfons was actually (genuinely) a Nazi along with a lot of other characters; it was Germany during WW2 so a lot of people just thought they were in a war and didn't realize Hitler was actually trying to cause genocide.
If you hated the shitty version that is brotherhood, of course you will like the superior version that is the first one.
If you didn't like Brotherhood then you'll probably like FMA03.
They actually are pretty different, since 03 is more like a tragedy/drama and Brotherhood is an action shonen comedy.
Both are equally good. People might said brotherhood is better because they follow the manga more accurately but I don't think so. '03 has a totally different theme and it's not because it's a shitty adaptation in the case of FSN or Higurashi.
Things end too happily in Brotherhood.
03 is the complete opposite and gets pretty edgy.
I prefer 03 simply because you get 3 episodes of buildup for best father.
Did you watch the movie?
If not you didn't finish it.
-slower, more filler
-more characterization and a character driven story
-The final battle is some dramatic "Wtf did I just watch? " stuff
-the movie gives a final ending that makes it feel more complete.
-The music is better
Great if you can get emotionally attached to the cast.
So what is the bias that makes people claim Brotherhood to be the worst of the two? Popularity?
In any other situation you'd be laughed out of the building for claiming some anime-original shit to be better.
For me though, Brotherhood's comedy was pretty jarring and bizzare. At least '03 is consistent with its theme.
Though yeah, the author wanted to wrote a manga that's easy to read even for a kid.
Not that user, but it's because the first 1/5th of the show is rushed bullshit.
People used to yell "BROTHERHOOD IS SUPERIOR!' and shit on anyone that liked '03 when Brotherhood came out and at least 4 years after.
But 03 is like an alternate universe and has a different story so there's no point in saying which one is better, since it's all based on opinion and different tastes.
(but 03 had more soul.)
I think it's because we have TOO much shitty adaptations that have shitty original story. So people tend to react badly to that.
Salem was comparable to Wrath
You're fucking kidding. Salem barely annoyed me while Wrath annoyed me to no ends.
Oh damn, yeah you're completely right.
I never noticed because most adaptions I've seen are never as long as '03 and end up only being like 12 episodes long.
OP, this thread is either full of idiots, trolls, or both.
Brotherhood is FAR superior. Anyone who says otherwise is lying or mentally deficient. It's a 100% proven fact.
But the answer to your question is:
Watch 2003 and then Brotherhood.
2003 has some great parts (made of stuff seeing as manga didn't finish yet) but ends in an absolutely ridiculous fashion. Doesn't answer all the questions.
Brotherhood has weird ass Chinese fucks, which I would say is a negative but overall they are fine. Greed is awesome, definitely equal or better than in the 2003 version. The little girl is the worst character but not bad enough for it really to be a negative.
All plotlines are resolved, and it is NOT a happy ending as others say
They HAD to restore themselves at the end or the story is quite pointless. This isn't dark edgy real life anime. It has to complete its goal. They lose alchemy
And lots of events in Brotherhood are great while lots of parts suck in 2003
weirdass episode where ed and Mustang fight, the flower episode, etc vs mustang doing human alchemy, hawkeye's back, Greed vs others, the big baddie actually absorbing god
I totally forgot about Dante. What was her deal? I remember NOTHING about her.
OCD completionist reporting in.
I watched 2003 and then, without pause, watched Brotherhood. All in the span of 3 days.
Brotherhood is better overall. The only thing 2003 did well was the death of a certain someone.
Remember when we thought Mustang murdered an innocent woman, thinking he killed Hughes? I remember being in total shock when I read it in the manga. The anime did it well but could have dragged it out even longer
Or how Lust died? Or every about Envy?
The weakness of Brotherhood is those stupid comic relief characters: Yoki, the chinese girl
But yea, 2003 had its dark moments: rose's rape, Scar's death, they don't succeed in the end.
I just started to remember the end of FMA. You guys are out of your mind for prefering that in the end. It was great but the end is really sucked.
I like how 2003 characterized Nina and Hughes, so you felt their deathes.
If you really think you're going to watch both then watch 2003. If you're only going to watch one than still watch 2003 because it's the best.
Watch FMA if you want an -okay- spin off story, read the manga instead if you're actually interested in the real plot
You don't have to prefer the end of '03 to prefer '03 to Brotherhood.
For some reason people don't spoiler anymore.
Yes, it's Hughes.
Everyone knows. But I did consider it, but those are two deaths everyone and their grandmas know.
The superior ending. Now don't watch the movie.
Well if the OP's honest and not just trying to start a FMA thread in the old fashion way, then I can imagine him being upset that people throw spoilers left and right for argument's sake.
You wouldn't happen to have a webm of this scene, would you? Or any 03 scene, really. I have nothing.
True but let's look at my other complaints (feel free to disagree):
homoculi are made by people failing human transmutation
Great idea, but damn certain homoculi sucked: Wrath, Sloth
Pride (Wrath in Brotherhood) was hard to place. he killed his son in one (Nice and dark) and in the other, he was a smart intelligent badass.
The rest are about the same
Dante big baddy
Hm, I like the reference but overall it was a boring overdone storyline. .Anyone who started reading/watching the series could have came up with that overall scheme. brotherhood's big baddy's plan was better
Most of the series is identical
What FMA gave us: lots of weird filler episodes
What brotherhood gave us: continuous story (but nothing on the big scale)
recently saw Brotherhood (about a year ago)
now I have to rewatch FMA
My opinion: Watch 2003 and then Brotherhood. Both are great but different parts are great.
Chinks ruined the manga and Brotherhood. Watch the 03 anime.
Both series became cartoonish, based on situation.
It is true, yes it is true that FMA 03 keeps its rather small character pool. Thus, having a more complex character development. Yet, there is one little problem and her name is "Rose". I despised her and any additonal screentime she had in FMA 03.
First few episodes had horrible QUALITY. Brotherhood made a mistake keeping the character designs closer to arakawa's. It's really not her strong point, and they still managed to make them look worse than the manga. More mature, detailed characters fit better thematically.
Watch just FMA first. It'll make FMA Brotherhood seem much much better later on
Which is which? I swear, some pictures are flipped. White Rose is Brotherhood but the rest??? Is the left side Brotherhood?
If so, both sides had bad shit.
But yeah, Brotherhood didn't win out with animation
All the pictures on the left are brotherhood and all the pictures on the right are 03.
Pale Rose threw me off every time she was on screen.
Are you blind? Haven´t watched Brotherhood nor FMA, even I can tell. Left B, right FMA.
I haven't seen any of them, but judging from what I heard about quality and the 2nd row(Jesus christ look at that shit)
Left is 2003
Right is Brotherhood
Both series had great points for animation and bad times.
Well, neutral party decided it.
03 is winning no matter what. Only ones that like Brotherhood are the new generation that saw it first.
dam miss that ost. thanks for reminding user
I thought it was much better up until that fucking German world shit. It would have been much better if Dante sent Ed into the gate, doing the same to Hohenheim before, and Hohenheim helps Ed reform himself to get back. Then it would continue like it did before up until Ed sacrifices himself. Instead of sending himself to Germany he would send himself inside of the gate, unable to return. Then Alphonse would come back like he did at the end of 2003. Much better ending.
neutral party decided it
neutral party mislabeled it
only people who prefer Brotherhood are those who watched it first
I saw FMA when it was coming out and saw Brotherhood maybe 2-3 years after it finished. I don't know which I prefer but I definitely think FMA flopped around at the end with stupid crap (Sloth and Wrath were horrible; the last episode was dumb). but overall, both are amazing. 2003 is definitely more emotional and invests you better, but Brotherhood did the story better
I finished Brotherhood recently. If you are new to anime, go with that. If you aren't, skip FMA altogether. There was never really a point where I said, yeah this was worth watching 64 episodes for. Nothing that you havent seen before happens, and you expect it to be a show that lives off of tweests except no major tweests happen and it ends in a boring way. The constant juxtaposition of comedy and tragedy is frustrating too. A few nicely animated scenes, Hughes death will let you in on the raining meme, and thats it.
Brown Rose is superior Rose
What. is. this.
This isn't the Sheeky Forums I know. It's changed alot since I was on (2012ish?)... NEVER did Sheeky Forums say the 2003 was better. Even with nostalgia. There was more negative to 2003 than negative in B.
I like both but Brotherhood is superior
2003 lovers have been here FOREVER since 2005 ya dummy.
We just got drowned out by all the raving Brotherhood fans.
Brotherhood wasn't even being made yet.
FMA is good. It will always be good. It will always be one of my picks for best anime, but it just got beat.
Well yeah I know it wasn't being made or thought of. But these Anons make it sound like there were never any 03 fans.
Also nah I'm pretty sure Brotherhood didn't beat 03.
I need a shitty forced SUFFERING ending for my chinese cartoons
Can't everyone just agree to disagree?
And get along?
FMA 2003 is just a shitty fanfiction, just watch Brotherhood or, even better, read the manga.
watch 2003 and then brother hood
I dunno wut reading comprehension is.
Read again, without going full retard.
Anytime, user. It's a crime that Michiru Oshima doesn't get more work. I just found out that she's doing the music of Rokka no Yuusha this season. I might have to pick it up just for her.
If there are others you want, name them and I'll make a webm quickly.
Watch 03 and read the manga. Every other option is worse. And stop comparing them plot-wise, as they are completely different.
You should eventually experience every FMA - Manga, 2003 and Brotherhood because each offers unique and worthwhile experience.
Manga and Brotherhood
Focuses more on the story and the world in which it takes place. It's grand adventure with fun and likeable characters, it has a backdrop and catharsis.
Focuses more on characters, philosophical and ethical questions of the alchemy problematic. The whole story is more personal, way less adventurous and more tragic.
Definitely watch both, since they are worth it. I prefer 2003 version, although again both versions have their flaws. Generally, if you want big adventurous cleverly-told story go with Brotherhood and if you want more of a personal psychological journey of a main character go with 2003.
Anything scene worked on my Yutaka Nakamura would be great. I know there's a really cool scene near the end where Roy sets bradley on fire and he regenerates. There's also a pretty good scene of Scar destroying an amestrian camp, but I don't remember when it happened.
Forgot that I had this one already.
I forgot that this existed. Was it worth seeing?
It was fine until the first major plotwise regarding the brother. The entire movie goes to shit afterwards. It lacks humor as well, so it's kind of joyless.
Watch Brotherhood first then 03 later if you want more FMA but something different.
Literally everything is better in Brotherhood. And Brotherhood has Ling, which 03 doesn't. Not to mention Hohenheim is fucking awesome in Brotherhood.
People will go on about how its shit compared to 03 because it isn't depressing or some magical journey like the 03 version or because it actually has a happy ending instead of your cliche sad bullshit you see everywhere today, but you can really just ignore them.
All these hipsters saying 03 is better
Hahah, get fucked. When did Sheeky Forums become so bad? Everyone here used to hate that shit.
2003 had more capable and inventive main director. He found the perfect balance for the animation. It (except for openings) never felt like anything special but it set somber mood very well and was more pragmatically functional instead of flashy.
Seriously, I just don't get it. What the fuck is wrong with a happy ending? 03's ending is retarded in general and I couldn't even bring myself to feel anything for it; it's just dumb.
Why can't Ed and Al finally end happy? Why can't Hohenheim die fulfilled? Why can't Mustang and co keep working to reach their dreams? Why is it that that's so much worse then "omg mustang is a broken ex military guy now its so realistic and sad.... omg and ed is in nazi germany... so sad..."
Its fucking stupid and just makes you look like a pretensions douchebag if you think Brotherhood has a worse ending just because it's "Happy". Seriously, you're not some novel critique looking over age old literature, you're watching a fucking shounen anime.
But there weren't, really. There were some sure but they were far and few between. Then Brotherhood got really popular and suddenly EVERYONE loves 03 but Brotherhood sucks ass. The same thing is happening with Dragon Ball now with Super and GT. It's fucking pathetic.
Brotherhood is canon.
Its alright, not as bad as Shamballs but its not really something that needed to be made either.
I think the characters were also more consistantly on model. In @Methshot
's example, the kids, who are 10 and 11 at the time, too like chubby toddlers in the 5th row. Then in the next row Al looks like he's about 45. The animators in 2005 were able to convey the emotion of terror he was feeling without deforming his face to make him look like a different character.
I like the first row and the last row shots from 2003 as well. Pulling the camera away from the characters and making them silhouettes gives us a more objective view. By removing the audience from the scene, it makes it feel like the brothers are closer. And the way Ed is standing in the first image while Al is sitting down symbolically expresses their relationship well. I like the second image on the Brotherhood side, it does a good job of creating a sense of dread, but it felt somewhat out of place in the style of the rest of that scene.
That's the one. Thank you!
That was exactly the one I was thinking about thank you again.
Where the fuck do you think you are?
2003 anime doesn't exist in my mind. Neither does the Shamballa movie.
FMA 2003 was my first anime and I fucking hate it now and prefer the manga. Nostalgia doesn't blind everyone.
Realistically, 03 is better. There's actual consequences to their actions even in the end.
Ed still doesn't have his arm or leg and they're now stuck in the "real" world where alchemy doesn't exist. Ed was the older one and is SLIGHTLY more responsible, but they did try to make a human and bring someone back to life.
Adventure-wise, Brotherhood is better. I still am sore about them being super lazy on the introduction episodes though, so it loses a few points when judged solo.
So, while I may like 03 better, I end up rewatching Brotherhood more, with a few 03 episodes to flesh out the beginning.
this man is correct also 03 ost > Brotherhood
Brotherhood has actual consequence as well, it's just swept under the happy ending. Ed loses his alchemy, still doesn't have his leg and never really reconciles with Hohenheim in a meaningful way.
I prefer 03. I can't really deal with Brotherhood's try at comedy, I didn't like the character design (mainly the head shapes), didn't give a fuck about the Xing guys - and I didn't like a lot of the action or the ending.
Yea, but it's by choice, not by rules of reality. Ed literally has a philosophers stone (his father) willing to pay the price. And theres another stone which was used for Mustangs eyes and Roy's legs which could have fixed his other leg too. And even then Al has his alchemy and there are alchemists everywhere so its not like Ed doesn't have access to it. Not to mention when they reboot it in x~ years and he gets it back somehow.
In 03, they are kicked out of the alchemists world pretty much and are sent to Nazi germany. Hohenheim gets pretty much what he deserves, and there isnt a cute "I was spreading my philosophers stone around and thats why I wasn't there to be an actual father " backstory. Ed calling him a shitty father is more reconciliation then he ever deserved.
With the exception of the ending, direction and characters are portrayed in better way, especially the protagonists. The tones are more obscure, but fit well for that kind of transposition. Personally, although the end was retarded ( and do not even talking about the movie) , I really liked the theme of the entire underground city sacrificed , at the time I liked a lot that location.
Pic for an ant, I know
Both endings were tonally appropriate for the series they belonged to.
03's greatest weakness is that the plot becomes muddled and characters presences feel unneeded as the plot gets more high concept. I appreciate its ambition, but Brotherhood has a much tighter story overall.
Brotherhood's greatest weakness is unfunny and unnecessary comedy. A lot of quieter moments are ruined by out of place wacky faces that are reacting to something that didn't warrant a comical response. It thankfully peters out later on.
I've never heard a reason why the Brotherhood ending is bad other than it being happy.
03 doesn't even have a real final battle. Would have been out of place in that story anyway.
I would say its not bad, its just not really consistent with the series and is a letdown when hoping for a better ending then the 03 version.
03 tries a original ending, doesn't do too good at it, tries again and does even worse.
But Brotherhood goes completely generic, with massive power level jumps and double deus ex machina with the two anti-transmutation circles(Anti Dwarf in a Flask/Philosophers Stone unmaking)
Anyone else fucking groan at that half-assed "Third Impact" in Brotherhood?
Jesus H lady if you're going to pull something like that, don't half-ass it. You could've literally cut that scene from the story and nothing would've changed.
what are you talking about
When everyone dropped dead then got brought back like 5 minutes later.
That scene is the whole point of Brotherhood's plot.
*Having your protagonists turn into Nazi's, forcibly or by choice, sent to the Eastern front, suffering and freezing their balls off for 2 years, and dying in a Soviet gulag after 1 year of torture is a great ending
This so much, I would have liked them to overcome it using domething smart or just not include it, its pretty shit that this whole things been built up but it doesn't matter because Hohenheim has already got the counter ready.
Is it really?
Well, Hohenheim leaving his family so he could save the world instead of staying at home when his wife died so that his sons could be stopped if they tried anything foolish was one of the catalysts for Al and Ed to do human transmutation and thus start the whole series.
Most seem to only dislike Brotherhood because it's a happy ending (forgetting that it's a happy ending rightfully earned). It is vastly superior to the filler bullshit that is 03'. Watch that first and if you must, venture back to 03'.
That pretty tangential. The truth is she didnt have the balls to go with that route (it wouldve been pointless either way), but still wanted to dip a toe in the pool.
Imo she shouldve just cut that whole part of the plot.
2003 had higher production values, better soundtrack and a better defined personality of it's own but Brotherhood stays faithful to the manga, watch both.
I'd say the best 40.
First full metal, it was awesome and i love it more
I would have liked them to overcome it using something smart
Were you expecting a deux ex machina out of the box thinking? I think it was fine the way it was done. Hohenheim knew what happened to Xerxes, so it's not ridiculous to assume that he would've come up with a back-up strategy in case things went to shit again. It also gives a good explanation of why he was a shit father and left his family.
I watched Brotherhood up to episode 34 and dropped it. I can confirm it was rushed and it had a light tone to it. So I'd go with the original instead if you want the better experience.
I'd honestly say watch Brotherhood and ignore the rest.
When did Ed got such a tan?
Brotherhood for the real story, then 2003 for fun
I watched Brotherhood up to episode 34 and dropped it. I can confirm it was rushed and it had a light tone to it.
Tragedy faggot, please refrain from giving shit opinions.
I'd say 03 was better, IF the ending hadn't crashed and burned so spectacularly that it ruined the rest of it
And then, instead of letting the corpse of the series rest, it was resurrected and we got Shamballa, 2 hours of Nazi's being evil because(?), with nothing being resolved of course, and the Ed and Al are cursed to die in Stalingrad, Leningrad, or a Soviet gulag in 15 years
unironically thinking that FMA Brotherhood is the best shounen anime
Go back to reddit
Alternatively, watch the first 20 episodes or so of FMA, then watch episode 8 of Brotherhood up until the end.
Ignore the nostalgiafags and /v/ermin telling you to finish 03.
Wrath and Greed the only Homonuculi worth a shit
Lust and Envy are literally trashmobs
And for some reason the most dangerous one is left alive
The counteracting transmutation circle was set up well before the ending, so you knew it was coming. It provided Hohenheim with a warranted reason to leave Al and Ed, and was his redemption for his past with Father. Without it, Hohenheim might as well have been a drunk bum who abandoned his wife and children for little reason for all the good his uninvolvement with the rest of the story did.
You could say that this makes the rest of the crew and their efforts meaningless, and in regards to Father, that is very true, though their efforts were admirable. However, by taking out the other homunculi during the final battle, they paved the way for a defenseless Father during the square battle, at which point Hohenheim himself was beat.
I prefer 2003 and hate TG
What in 2003 was "shitty fucking filler padding?" Every episode has SOMETHING relevant, even if it takes a long time for it to become relevant. The fake Elric brothers are probably the closest to "filler and padding", but that episode introduces the red water AND the fake Elrics come back later on.